Talk:Oberth class starship
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USS Springfield was not seen onscreen, thus non-canon. Deleted
When was it ever stated on an episode or movie, that the Oberth Class was replaced by the Nova? In ST: Generations, one of the ships at the end of the movie is an Oberth Class. I will not make a change until I get some input on this. --ScotchWhisky 20:36, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- It was never stated. It's conjecture. - Hayter 08:48, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- Though you can see that the article is written in such a way to give the impression it is fact. Personally, I don't have a problem with interpreting the Star Trek universe beyound what is "canon", but in this case there is absolutely no foundation for this particular claim, and there are certain rules regarding what goes in an article. Since I apparently have nothing better to do, let me ask you: do you think that statement should be removed, or altered? Perhaps, by stating that it is widely believed by fans that this class was due to be replaced by the Nova, is more appropriate and accurate. No, yes, perhaps, who really cares? --ScotchWhisky 12:03, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- I was brief before because I felt I said all that was needed. Perhaps if I'd said, "fan conjecture" it would have been better. In short, if it hasn't been confirmed onscreen, then it's not canon, thus not fact, thus not worthy of inclusion in the article. Exceptions would include verified statements from production team members; maybe "we saw the Nova as a new Oberth" - but this would have to be explicitly shown to be backstage info, and not canon data. Publications in things such as technical manuals and magazines are a grey area. The way it is currently presented in the article, is unnaceptable. - Hayter 21:12, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
