Talk:Oberlander Jews

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[edit] Research

I'm going to have to do some more research on Hungary. I think I missed something... Gringo300 00:09, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

I guess I know what you missed :) The thing is that "Oberland" is a German translation for Slovak name "Horná zem" and Hungarian name "Felvidék", all of them designating area of contemporary Slovakia. So there I guess article should correctly state that "Oberlander" Jews were in fact from Slovakia, regardless of the fact that at that time Slovakia was part of Hungary. Similarly articles on Hasidim state that they lived in Belarus, country which has been for centuries part of either Russia or Poland. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.81.23.195 (talk • contribs) 9 January 2006.

"Oberland" is in fact a Germaniziation of the Yiddish term "Oyberland," which, as the unsigned contributer above notes, is borrowed and translated from the Hungarian place name "Felvidék"; it refers, however, to a different geographic area; "Felvidék" does designate an area within modern Slovakia, but "Oyberland" is mostly within modern Hungary. Bws2002 21:20, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Things I'm changing

Here are a few things I'm changing, but what to explain the reasons for changing them.

1. Oberlander Yiddish, though it shares some features with West Yiddish, is not West Yiddish. I'm removing the word 'western.'

2. The term 'Yekkes' is not appropriate for an encyclopedia; I'm changing it to "German Jews," even though this too is a problematic term.

3. I don't think Chassam Sofer should be listed under "Famous Oberlander Families" because a) he's a person, not a family, and b) He was from Frankfurt, so he wasn't an Oberlander. Bws2002 21:27, 30 November 2007 (UTC)