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Don't want to post a link without asking first. But here's an Oakland A's Forum.

There are 23 total threads on that board and not many more posts. I don't think that's quite enough for a link in the article that isn't already covered by older, more noteworthy webistes.

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[edit] Jay Marshall

Unless I'm mistaken, the pitcher Jay Marshall isn't a ventriloquist magician who died in 2005. The link is wrong.

[edit] Uniform

The "A" on the uniforms is not Old English.--Hazillow 02:22, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

This Image:OldEnglish.png is Engraver's Old English. There are a number of differences between this A and the Athletics' A, but I would like to see a source for this. For the moment I believe blackletter is as precise as we can get. ~ trialsanderrors 08:36, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

The A's have a new alternate uniform for this season (It's black, not green). Could someone who knows how to do that kind of thing get on it? Burntorange72 (talk) 18:45, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Stadium

Anyone else see that Lewis Wolff is holding a press conference about the team's future on Friday. The new stadium will be a big part of this (and possibly if the team will even be the "Oakland" Athletics for much longer :( Gateman1997 02:55, 9 August 2005 (UTC)


[edit] New infobox

I decided it might be time to bring MLB in line with the other sports and have an infobox in addition to the franchise box. Figured I'd experiment on the A's. Let me know what you think, you can see it here New Infobox for A's.Gateman1997 18:34, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, but we already have a few info boxes going on STL, FLA, NYM and PHI. They are not the best, but that is what we have going. I was probably going to have the NL finished this weekend. If you would like to improve what we have or change it, I would suggest bringing it up on the WikiProject:Baseball before you implement anything new. You can access the Project via the template at the top of this page. While you are there, you might as well join the project - it looks like you would be a great addition. See you on the project!--CrazyTalk 22:21, September 9, 2005 (UTC)
Tell me what you think? Don't get me wrong those other info boxes are nice, but I think this looks much better. Much more standardized with other sports too.Gateman1997 01:17, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
A problem with the current info box is that it had no room for minor league affiliates -- who get then put into a separate info box for which the level of the affiliate is in black and therefore invisible. --Nlu 01:34, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
How do you mean? There is a new "franchise" info box down bottom with the MLB Infobox and it has all the minor league teams. We could add them to the main infobox, but IMO they wouldn't be appropriate there since they're just affiliates, and not part of the team proper.Gateman1997 01:51, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
As I wrote above, the problem is that the minor league teams' level (AAA/AA/A) are in black and therefore unreadable unless you highlight them. --Nlu 04:42, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
OK, oddly enough, that appears to only happen with my work computer (my home computer shows the background in white, and there's no problem there). --Nlu 04:45, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
Actually it's supposed to be purple.Gateman1997 05:38, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
There may lie the problem; it will be too dark on many browser setups for the text to be seen. Change it to a lighter color. --Nlu 06:41, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
If light purple is hard to see anyone who is having trouble may want to adjust their monitor. I've looked at it on both a PC and a Mac using CRT and LCD screens and it is as clear as day.Gateman1997 06:59, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
But why bother using purple? White's perfectly fine, and in Wikipedia in general, there has never been a general tendency to use a multitude of colors for background. Suggesting people to adjust their monitor is not a reasonable response; the usability of Wikipedia is not supposed to be machine-dependent, much less monitor-dependent. --Nlu 07:10, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
Purple was used for consistency with the MLB template below the Minor League one. And for the record Purple backround is VERY common on Wikipedia.Gateman1997 07:41, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
GREAT job on updating and upgrading the article!! Uncle Al, 17:10, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Retired Numbers/Jerseys

I believe that the Athletics have retired a jersey in honor of Walter Haas. Can anyone verify this? Is it appropriate for the Retired Numbers section?

The A's did "retire" a jersey in honor of Haas. It's a jersey from the Finley era---which suggests to me that no one spent much thought on the process---with Haas' name but no number. (The Los Angeles Angels many years ago retired jersey number 26 in honor of their original owner, Gene Autry, as the "26th man" on the 25-man roster.) Uncle Al, 17:33 28 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rivals

Hello,
The rivals (See also: Bay Bridge Series (Athletics-Giants), City Series (Athletics-Phillies)) are listed on this page twice, once under the Rivals section and once under Quick facts. Do we need it in both places, or can it be stuck under the See also section? What say anyone?--CrazyTalk 18:29, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

I would have to say it's technically known as "sloppy editing". Feel free to fix it. d:) Wahkeenah 20:51, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Consider it done!! Uncle Al, 20:00, 09 November 2005 (UTC


Someone put that the A's and Giants have met 3 times in the World Series since their respective moves west, and that they have won two and one of those meetings, respectively. That's just not true. They've only met once since either team moved west, and the Giants have not won a single World Series, let alone one against the A's, since their move to San Francisco.

[edit] Sports Franchising

Would someone who understands the US franchising system care to contribute some words of wisdom to the Sports franchising article. It mentions Oakland Athletics as an example, but does't really say what it means. [Note that the references to "football" in Europe mean Association Football or "soccer" to you.] --A Confused Limey aka Concrete Cowboy 13:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Official Team Name

Some notes on my recent edits. Though Finley began phasing out the name "Athletics" from the day he bought the team, the name continued to appear in team yearbooks until 1970. The name "Oakland Athletics" appears prominently on the cover of the 1969 Yearbook (which featured a picture of Connie Mack). For the record, the team wore "OAKLAND" on home and road jerseys in 1968, then the traditional "A" on home and road jerseys in 1969. In 1970, the "apostrophe-s" was added, and has remained on the team's cap logo ever since.

The 1982 Yearbook---the second full year of Haas' ownership---is titled "1982 Oakland Athletics Yearbook," and the traditional name is featured prominently in the publication. The confusion arose, I think, from the fact that it was not until 1987 that "Athletics" was restored to the team uniform. Uncle Al, 20:58, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Split off history articles?

According to the WikiProject baseball, it would make sense to just offer an abridged history of the Phila/KC years here and move the extensive (thank you editors) histories to their own entries. Any comments?

Team history (abridged)
Separate link to detailed history (when appropriate)

~ trialsanderrors 16:25, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

The problem with that is that it would be inconsistent with every other Major League Baseball team's history. The St. Louis Browns' history is included in the Baltimore Orioles' history, and so forth. The Anaheim Angels diehards finally capitulated, as that now re-directs to Los Angeles Angels. ---Uncle Al 00:40 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Karsay Retires

Steve Karsay has announced his retirement from baseball. 67.188.172.165 22:40, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dan Meyer goes to wrong stub

Anyone know where to get info to create new stub?

[edit] Mule

If memory serves me correctly Charlie-O was originally a gift from Stuart Symington who wanted the Athletics represented by a Democratic mule rather than Republican elephant. When the Athletics left KC there was controversy over whether the mule should go also. I can't find a citatation on it although this was in the KC Star at the time. Americasroof 07:42, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mount Davis

Will Mount Davis be opened for the playoffs, or will they keep it covered? They're supposedly selling standing room only tickets, they could sell more if the Mount Davis seats were opened up. User:Zoe|(talk) 18:53, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cap insignia

I believe the "A's" on the cap has thinner lines and harder angles than the updated "A's" in the main logo. Refer to player photos.

Yes, the cap logo is the same shape as the one in the official logo. The logo shown as the cap logo (the "fat A") is only used on some licensed apparel and does not appear on the uniform at all. 209.129.161.251 21:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

It's the same "A" however. Remember that on the caps it's 3 dimensional which is why it ends up looking skinnier. If you flatten it out it looks like the A we have in the current image. Gateman1997 15:20, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] White cleats

The image of the team's uniforms feature black cleats. Is there any way to change them to the white cleats that the Athletics wear? Would that violate any policy? Kraikk 12:59, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Fremont A's"

The A's are relocating to Fremont,CA which is inbetween Oakland and San Jose. I think a section about their move should be added since they aren't really the Oakland A's anymore. --East Bay Citizen, --D.M.

The football Giants have been in New Jersey for decades, but they are still the New York Giants. And by the way, weren't the Oakland Oaks actually in Emeryville? Baseball Bugs 02:35, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. There is no evidence they won't still have Oakland in their name post move. Wolff has only stated that "at Fremont" will be added to the name. Also, they're still in Oakland until 2010 no matter what happens at the very least. Gateman1997 02:42, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
It sounds like a parallel to "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim", or LAAA for short. I still think the Dodgers, in retaliation, should have then renamed themselves the "Brooklyn Dodgers of Los Angeles". d:) Baseball Bugs 02:45, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Well distain for it not withstanding, it makes sense to recognize the city you actually play in while keeping the benefits that come with have a big city name like Oakland or San Jose in your name. Plus it's an added incentive for a suburban town like Fremont to cooperate with Wolff in that they'll have great recognition outside the Bay Area. Infact it would benefit Fremont much more so than a town like Anaheim which already has other well known destinations like Disneyland. Shame Santa Clara's not getting the same kind of deal from the 49ers. Gateman1997 02:48, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
It's all about $$$ one way or another. I just wonder, with all the retractable roofs and such stuff as that in various cities... will the new Fremont ballpark have a retractable upper deck? >:) Baseball Bugs 02:57, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Not according to the designs they have on their website. Gateman1997 03:08, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Well, they'll just have to bring along the canvases from the Coliseum. Actually, I hope the A's draw better with a better facility. Some of those Coliseum seats are so far away from the action they might be in a different time zone. Baseball Bugs 03:19, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
They won't need them in the new park. That's why it only holds between 32,000 and 35,000 fans. The Coliseum WITH the tarps holds 34,000 right now. Gateman1997 03:24, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm making fun of your team, and you're not biting. Of course, being a Cubs fan, I've got not much to crow about. :) Baseball Bugs 10:46, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I've been defending the A's for twenty years against loud mouth Giants fans. I let my team do the talking for me. 4 world championships and more trips to the post season in the time your team and theirs have garnered 0 championships speaks volumes more than I could. ;) Gateman1997 20:59, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Yet nobody shows up. Well, that was the case at San Fran for a long time, until they opened a ballpark that was a little warmer than the icebox at Candlestick. Maybe the new park will give the same boost to the A's. I think they got off to a bad start in 1968 when Finley said his goal was "to draw a million fans". Not to win the pennant, or to become part of the community, but to make money off the locals. I remember those great teams of the early 70s, which were broken up due to money and the Yankees, just like Mack's version of the team did in the early 1930s. The A's have always been kind of a shoestring operation. It would be nice to see them get some respect and some more fans than just the die-hards like yourself. d:) Baseball Bugs 22:14, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Retired Numbers (Images)

I've been working on adding image forms of the retired numbers in all the retired number sections, and my latest one (mostly due to an incident on the controversial Reggie Jackson page), had been Oakland. I followed the model of the numbers atop Mount Davis, except for Haas in which I used the jersey on the right field fence as a model. Robinson's 42, however, doesn't seem to appear anywhere. If anyone can find an instance of Robinson's number being displayed at the Coliseum, it would be greatly appreciate it, although if everyone's okay with the current model, that works too. Also, anyone have a year for when Haas was honored? --Silent Wind of Doom 21:33, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

You can see it [[1]]. It's on the railing on the second deck, directly above the Chevy ad. You can also sort of see the Haas jersey, which is on the fence to the right of the Chevy ad, behind the player. The "A's" is green with a white outline, and "HAAS" is green with no outline. Senor k (talk) 05:08, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] lost uniform

the uniform picture does not include the black alt. uniform of the a's, someone needs to fix this.--Sonicobbsessed (talk) 19:18, 13 April 2008 (UTC)