Talk:Nymphaeaceae
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[edit] removed image
The Image:Waterlily1web.jpg was removed. I'm afraid the plant shown on it can't be identified precisely. Therefore, with all its artistic qualities, it doesn't give any new information, since there are already three other images, properly identified and of reasonable quality. Iorsh 06:53, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
This is a hardy water lily hybrid which looks to me is the hybrid called N. 'James Brydon.' --Dara 03:06, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)
Is anyone seriously opposed to moving this article to a page called Nymphaeaceae, and having the common names of water lily link there? It'd be nice if the plant taxonomy articles all used a smilar naming convention for their pages--nixie 03:21, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- That's would be against the naming convention of Wikipedia and of the Tree of Life Wikiproject. I would stick to the standard, but if you want to debate it, I would find the discussion there. Sorry I can't point you directly to it. --Chinasaur
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- I don't suppose that it matters anyway since all the plants in the family are called water-lillies--nixie 21:33, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
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- Similar discussion has been dragging along with orchids, without much of a definitive resolution. Only a few families actually match up with a common name, so it doesn't come up often. I'd say to leave it at common name, people who look at lists of families will know what is going on, while nonspecialists seeing this article for the first time would be mystified by getting redirected to an "aceae". Stan 22:26, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] Confusing..
This page is very confusing. I searched for water lilies and it redirected me to this page (water lily) which seems to an article on Nymphaeaceae (the water lily family) and water lilies merged together. And I notice some very common mistakes in the article like the confusion about lotus and waterlilies.
I think that the term waterlily or waterlilies should redirect viewers to the Nymphaea (the genus name of water lilies) page. And Nymphaeaceae should be it's own page because Nymphaeaceae is the name of the water lily family which includes other genera besides Nymphaea (water lilies) like Nuphar, Barclaya, Nelumbo, etc. --Dara 03:20, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)
- Agreed (except that Nelumbo isn't in this family); I'm working on it - MPF 11:10, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Done - MPF 13:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I've changed the page "Water lily" to a disambiguation that redirects to Nymphaeaceae and Nelumbonaceae. Nov 2 2006
- Done - MPF 13:42, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I agree that it is important to make sure that Nelumbo is *not* included here -- it is definitely not part of Nymphaeaceae. I believe the reference to the longevity of Nymphaeaceae seeds also really refers to Nelumbo -- some 2000 year old Nelumbo (Sacred Lotus) seeds were germinated -- but I do not believe the same can be said for anything in Nymphaeaceae.
- Yeah, you're probably right. I removed it, and it can stay out until it is sourced. Please feel free to edit things of this nature yourself as it was a good catch.KP Botany 19:52, 26 July 2007 (UTC)