User talk:Nuttah/Archive/Archive 01

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Contents 1 Archive 01 2 Wellness, By Nature, Addiction Foods 3 St. Andrew's School 4 Your speedy tag on Bear Mountain (resort) 5 Your attention requested regarding NK Radnik's article 6 PAC 7 Aaron Bock 8 Under construction 9 Tagging of The Hatfield House 10 Speedy tags on Lee Baker, Jack Compton, Ade Manchester 11 Prod. on Comparison of antivirus software 12 Douglas Chapman 13 Sir James Kilfedder 14 Portsmouth F.C. 15 Hamnavoe Gallery 16 List of pubs in Balmain 17 Liverpool 18 Hypno5e 19 Marija Skalovska/Todor Skalovski 20 JkDefrag AfD 21 Perumkadavila 22 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Schafer House 23 speedies 24 Thanks 25 Gary Hayes 26 PROD 27 Metabo 28 Barnstar! 29 Footballer for deletion

[edit] Archive 01

[edit] Wellness, By Nature, Addiction Foods

Why are you nominating these for speedy deletion when this could have been discussed? Also on one you give a large .pdf link for copyright violation instead of pointing out what specific area is a copyright violation. You don't seem to be a creator, just a deletionist. The Addiction Foods could have been expanded upon due to unique ingredients. Noles1984 16:24, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] St. Andrew's School

I agree. I had just caught my mistake and headed back to correct it. You had already done so. Thanks! --Stormbay 17:27, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your speedy tag on Bear Mountain (resort)

Why are you requesting a deletion on a legit article about a legit community in Langford? It's not just a golf course and hotel out here, you know. And it's all facts here, at least. If I were advertising, I think I would have said "this stunning community is a once-in-a-lifetime ownership opportunity" or some crap like that. Instead, I think I did a pretty good job of staying neutral despite the fact that it could very well turn into an advertisement. You may think its blatant advertising, but my intention is not to advertise. So instead of speedy deletion, I think we should look at other ways of editing the article to make it more palatable. Bluefox 06:59, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your attention requested regarding NK Radnik's article

Please see my comments at Talk:NK Radnik#Removal of claim to notability?. I look forward to your reply there. BigNate37_(T) 17:28, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] PAC

It claims to be notable. whether it is or not will depend upon the press coverage. the thing to do here, as in other dubious cases, is to first check for possible copyvio, and then look for additional references yourself -- try Google News-- and if you cannot find them, nominate them for AfD saying you could not find references. It goes much smoother that way. DGG (talk) 20:35, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Aaron Bock

Hi there. Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. Just want to let you know that Aaron Bock does have some notable items associated with it, but they are currently hidden until a dispute is resolved. For more information, see User_talk:MrPrada/Archive_1. Thanks. MrPrada 12:56, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Under construction

Thanks for paying attention to these tags! Glad someone remembered to work on them. There is no fixed time specified for them, but personally, I think 7 days is long enough. I could also see 5, the same as for proposed deletion. Just want to remind you to write informative edit summaries, especially when proposing for deletion or adding or removing a tag--it helps us overworked admins see what's been happening when we come to delete them. 16:37, 26 July 2007 (UTC) --one more thing, please remember to notify the author of the page, & I'd suggest also the person who placed the tag--seems only fair, though not strictly required. (and non-notable only applies to real people etc.,not fictional characters or mascots--the tag to use for them is prod.)

[edit] Tagging of The Hatfield House

I recently removed a speedy delete tag that you had placed on The Hatfield House. I do not think that The Hatfield House fits any of the speedy deletion criteria because bars and other real places are not realy covered by WP:CSD#A7, which is limited to articles about "a real person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content". Even if bars did fall under A7, the link with the titanic, suggesting this is to soem extant a historic location, adn the list of celebrity regulars would be at least claims of significance, IMO. DES ^(talk) 21:01, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

If you think it's spam, tag with db-spam -- it has some rather spammy content, but i con't think it constitutes blatent advertising. Note that under A7, any halfway plausibel claim of significance prevents a speedy -- which is assuming that an A7 can even apply to an articel about a bar, which i don't think it can. If you think this should go, i suggest {{prod}} or AfD. DES ^(talk) 21:20, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Because an article about a bar is generally, at least in part, an article about a physical place. Articles about places are not subject to A7. A bar, a school, and any of several other types of establishment combine a buisness and a place. The A7 expansion that took in buisness was focused on articles about busisness as such -- articles that dealt with the buisneses' modes of operation, products, and the like. Many, perhaps most notable bars are notable in significant part for their physical settings, in many cases the setting itelf is historic. DES ^(talk) 21:28, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy tags on Lee Baker, Jack Compton, Ade Manchester

Hi, I removed the {{db-bio}} tags you put on these three articles, as they all assert the importance of the articles' subjects, by mentioning that they are all on professional contracts at West Bromwich Albion F.C., a club in the second-highest division of English football. See WP:A7 for the rationale you gave. We have many, many articles on young footballers with professional contracts - just look at any article of a football club, and look at the high shirt numbers, and there will be newly-signed youngsters with contracts. If you still feel that these articles should be deleted (though I have no idea why you went for those three in particular), then take it to WP:AfD. --Dreaded Walrus ^{t c} 19:26, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Prod. on Comparison of antivirus software

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from Comparison of antivirus software, which you proposed for deletion, because I think that this article should not be deleted from Wikipedia. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! KTC 23:53, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Douglas Chapman

I think that holding a political office is at least an *assertion* of notability that takes a subject out of speedy category a7. I have no problem with a prod or AFD nomination. NawlinWiki 12:17, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sir James Kilfedder

I think the Outrage! blackmail issue is widely known, referenced and should be included. The piece about the school-boy should, obviously not be, however. What do you think? --Counter-revolutionary 17:28, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Hullo, I fail to see what all the fuss is about. A respected writer (McKinstry) publishes an account of an incident in the life of a respected statesman (JK) in a respected publication (The Spectator). Did you miss this reference? Once something like this is published it becomes valid source material, on the same footing with other bona fide biographical material. The only way "personal recollection" can be excluded from the Wikipedia is if it your or mine and has not been published. Haiduc 20:06, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Definitely not an acceptable ref with which to label Kilfedder, SqueakBox 20:12, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

You are both off base. McKinstry is a respected, award winning author writing on British politics and published by major publishing houses on both sides of the Atlantic. He is not "self-published". Haiduc 20:24, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Prove it. Haiduc 20:33, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, I now read that page. The operative words are "any reader should be able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source." The reliable source third party source here is The Spectator, which, by publishing McKinstry lends him the authority of their name. The fact that the author is himself demonstrably reliable and respected only reinforces the validity of his contribution, but is not necessary from our point of view. A scoundrel's words, printed in The Spectator, become valid source material for us. Haiduc 20:48, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Portsmouth F.C.

Whilst I do not dispute the reasoning behind your earlier club shop links reverts at Portsmouth F.C., your 7 reverts to remove this were clearly in breach of WP:3RR. I've had a look at the page and maybe this page could also be useful for you. [[1]] Keep up the good work!

Cloudz679 18:35, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. After reviewing WP:3RR#Exceptions, I can see your interpretation although the page is too ambiguous in my opinion, regarding what constitutes an exception. I'm glad you managed to put a stop to the edit war with your reasoning though. Thanks!

Cloudz679 22:04, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hamnavoe Gallery

I was wondering why you have tagged the Hamnavoe Gallery in Aberdeen for speedy deletion? This is an article about Aberdeen and this is a gallery in Aberdeen. There are other galleries in Aberdeen, and museums too, so I am not sure I understand why this one should be deleted.

I have stuck by submission guidelines and not added any details about opening times or other commercial details so if you could let me know what the problem is I will try to rectify it asap. thanks. Melana 22:20, 5 August 2007 (UTC)Melana 23:15 Aug 5th 2007

Hi Me again, and I have read through the message you left me. Thanks for that. Ok one of the reasons that I wanted to write an article about this gallery in Aberdeen is because they show the work of Steven Campbell, 'the greatest living scottish painter' - a quote from the Scotsman Newspaper not by me! This is an amazing thing that a gallery in aberdeen is showing his work as he is represented by the biggest gallery group in the world - Marlborough! So for him to show in a little gallery in the north east of scotland i thought was quite amazing but to write an article about him was hard and I needed a cross reference to the gallery.

Ok as to the verifiable thingy, Professor Duncan McMillan wrote a review of Steven Campbell showing at the Hamnavoe Gallery. Would that constitute news coverage? there have been a few editorials in the aberdeen papers too? I have started to re-write the article on the Gallery on my pc but haven't tried to re-publish it. Any further help would be GREATLY appreciated. Melana 09:22, 12 August 2007 (UTC)Melana

Hi I won't be writing the article for a while now as the Scottish Artist Steven Campbell died last week and this has upset the whole art world. He was one of the main reasons that I wanted to have an article about the Hamnavoe Gallery as this is one of the few places that you can get his work. It was a sad day that he died so I will leave it just now. I will ask for your help maybe when I do re-submit it, if thats ok. Melana 22:46, 22 August 2007 (UTC)Melana

[edit] List of pubs in Balmain

You recently put a {{prod}} tag on List of pubs in Balmain. Just a quick reminder that as per WP:PROD, this tag is not appropriate for articles that have been the subject of an AfD in the past, as this one had been. Mark Chovain 20:26, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Liverpool

OMG, I accidentaly re-added vandalism, sorry. It's early in the morning I guess I have to wake up propper first. 1redrun ^Talk 10:17, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hypno5e

Hi, as you probably know, you placed a speedy deletion tag on the article on Hypno5e. I believe that the deletion of the article was not without controversy and that it should have been deleted through AfD, for I have cited sources on that article. May I know your opinion on the issue? Thanks in advance. Zouavman Le Zouave 06:11, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Three days after the above message has been sent, I would think an answer would be appropriate. Can I know why you think Hypno5e should have been speedily deleted? I still think that the article should have been deleted through AfD, but you might be able to show me evidence that the article was conform to the Criteria for Speedy Deletion. Thanks in advance. Zouavman Le Zouave 08:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Marija Skalovska/Todor Skalovski

When you see the AFDs ([2], [3]), you'll know why I am apologizing profusely. Sorry again. Watchingthevitalsigns 14:19, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] JkDefrag AfD

Hi, I was just wondering what expertise you have in the field of Windows Optimisation software to know whether the JkDefrag page is notable software or not? Just curious RitaSkeeter 20:31, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your clarification, but I still don't see why a product as notable as JkDefrag should fail the notability test when the latest literature on the subject predates the public availability of the product. Surely more time is needed before nuking the article? RitaSkeeter 22:02, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Perumkadavila

Hi there. I don't know whether the author is trying to list people, political divisions on a map, or what. As it stands, I don't understand the importance of this article. - CobaltBlueTony 19:16, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Schafer House

Hi I just recently noticed your proposed deletion of the UCL accomodation articles. I agree in retrospect that the individual buildings do not warrant their own article and so deletion/merging is a good idea. However it would be nice if in future deletions etc you could nominate the creator of the article (in these examples me). It is considered courtesy to nominate the articles key contributors and creator when proposing an afd. As it happens I am not able to comment on the schafer house article, ergo its pointless me commenting on the other two ucl residences. Next time please let the creator known when you nominate for afd. Many thanks. LordHarris 12:34, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] speedies

When you mark an article for speedy, say so in the edit summary. It helps the review admins pick up the correct edit. The speedy on Shmuel Yanai was declined -- by another admin--and quite correctly. It is just necessary to make a claim of importance to prevent speedy as nn, and the assertion of leadership in the Palmach was quite sufficient for that--any plausible claim is. It is also considered polite to notify the people involved most with the article. DGG (talk) 23:22, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks, Jimfbleak 10:56, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gary Hayes

You were the editor who started the deletion discussion for the Gary Hayes article, which was later closed with consensus to delete. Just informing you that there's a deletion review for the article here: Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 October 18#Gary Hayes. Resurgent insurgent 02:42, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] PROD

Per the guidance at WP:PROD, you should Use an informative edit summary clearly indicating that the article has been nominated for deletion whenever you add the proposed deletion template to an article. I noticed that most of your nominations neglect to use the edit summary box at all. Neier 07:03, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Metabo

Yesterday you put up this article for speedy deletion. I saw right away that this was a (very) notable German manufacturer, known all over Europe. I've added more information and references, so as to present an acceptable article. I'm asking you now to remove the CSD template. As an admin, I could do it myself, but I rather have your agreement. JoJan 19:15, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar!

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		I hereby award User Nuttah68 the RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar for their diligence in reverting vandalism on Bishop Gore School. Great Job! That vandal was persistent! Keep up the awesome work! :) ✬Dillard421✬ (talk • contribs) 18:57, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Footballer for deletion

Hi, I noticed that you proposed deletion of Collins from Template:Kettering Town F.C. squad. If I understand correctly, once a PROD is removed, if there is still a case for deletion, the article should go to WP:AFD rather than be PRODded again. I'll let the Admin decide that. Anyway, having nominated that one, you may want to look at other non-notables on that template or in the same categories. - Fayenatic (talk) 20:09, 29 October 2007 (UTC)