Talk:Nutrilite

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[edit] NPOV Tag

There are many statements/claims in this article that do not have references to back them up. I have noticed that the article has been extensively edited by anonymous contributors. I think certain sections and claims within the article should be deleted unless their veracity can be determined. In general, there are certain parts of the article that read like a PR release from the company in question. Notably: "Nutrilite is the world's leading and largest selling brand of vitamins, minerals and dietary supplements in tablet/capsule form" and other such statements. --Xaliqen 20:30, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

This is a wiki. What do u expect?

I expect submitters to back up the claims they place in the article with appropriate evidence. I also expect submitters to adhere to the NPOV policy. --Xaliqen 01:07, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Can the disputed phrases be pointed out and substantiated as false?

It is the job of the submitter to substantiate the various claims in the article with appropriate evidence and references. --Xaliqen 01:07, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Statistics about Nutilite can be supported by Euromonitor. If somebody cares to do the research they should find the appropriate references and cite them in the article.Frade 22:29, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

References are better now, but it seems like much of the article has the character of an advertisement. I'm contemplating what might be the best way to improve this. In the interim, I've placed the 'advert' tag at the top of the article. ----Xaliqen 00:23, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Xaliqen -- although there's the bones of a decent short article about Nutrilite in there, it still reads very much like an advertisement with a bare caveat or two. I'm putting the 'advert' tag back at the top. The article needs work. -- ArglebargleIV 16:29, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Most, perhaps all, of the material that was removed was sourced, written relatively NPOV, and notable. It should be returned to the article. In general, facts are facts, not POV, doesn't matter whether they make something look good or bad. --Insider201283 21:05, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Its not a matter of looking good or bad. Unless something is approved by media, Wikipedia guidelines say that it should not be written here. If there is not enough media coverage of the company, any article about it will be treated as SPAM, even if the sale of the company is more than the total income of all TV channels combined. 75.73.188.53 04:22, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Not sure what you are talking about here? The stuff that was removed was about the industry awards for their documentaries and infomertials. David D. (Talk) 20:34, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I would think that Industry and other awards would be notable, no? What guidelines were they violating, it certainly doesn't seem to be the "advertising" ones. --Insider201283 23:00, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

If the company has won awards as a company ("Best private employer in Waukegan County"), or for its products ("Multivitamin of the year") then those would be relevant. The achievements of its paid spokerspersons and promotional material is much less relevant. Its enough to say that "they have hired Olympic champions and record holders X, Y, and Z as spokespersons." Unless we want to say that Nutrilite is most notable for its films we shouldn't devote too much attention to its promotions. Doing so would make it look like the company is only interested in appearances. 250 words on promotion seems like too much in a 500 word article. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 23:14, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

You write that "Doing so would make it look like the company is only interested in appearances.". Interestingly, this is the very reason i thought it might be relevant. :) David D. (Talk) 02:24, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NSF

While Nutrilite was the first line of dietary supplements certifeid by the NSF International, apparently it is no longer certified by them.[1] Does anyone know the reason? If it really isn't certified anymore that should also be indicated somehow. -Will Beback · † · 00:00, 1 January 2007 (UTC) I'd imagine that if a product is reformulated, which Nutrilite does do every few years in response to new research/technologies, it would no longer be certified until being retested. I'll email NSF and Nutrilite and see if I can get an answer. --Insider201283 11:03, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Advertisement?

Not sure why there's the advertisement tag? Doesn't read at all like an advertisement. --Insider201283 (talk) 13:50, 1 June 2008 (UTC)