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[edit] Rialto Towers

Nurg, regarding Rialto Towers, I think it is the tallest building in the southern hemisphere; I'm not aware of it's being surpassed. What I'm referring to however, is the tallest skyscraper, not including observation towers, such as Sydney Tower, which is taller. Prehaps what I had was ambiguous in that way, however, as far as I know, the Rialto is still the hemisphere's tallest skyscraper. Hypernovean 10:57, 27 Dec 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Kakapo

Hello! I like what you've done with Kakapo. Sorry I beat you to it, I didn't mean to steal your thunder or anything. I haven't noticed any errors, and the additions are nice. Thanks! Eudyptes 09:10 UTC 18 July 2004

I've responded to your comments on Kakapo. Thanks for your sharp eye, it's hard for me to be completely precise over such large volumes of material. Eudyptes 15:47 UTC 19 July 2004

[edit] New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board

Great work on the Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board, Nurg! I hope we keep you in the team. Robin Patterson 10:07, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Cetaceans

Hi, I see you've been doing lots of excellent work tidying up many of the cetaceans articles. If there is anything that should be done to improve all cetacean articles in general please do add it to Wikipedia:WikiProject Cetaceans. Pcb21| Pete 08:20, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Aupouri Peninsula

Hi Nurg - thanks for fixing up the mess I made with the Aupouri Peninsula (In my defence I can spell but had looked at a misspelled source of the name - other typos were caused by mild arthritis). I've been meaning to contact you anyway and say thanks for the good work on NZ related articles. Keep up the good work! [[User:Grutness|Grutness talk ]] 09:55, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

[edit] Kiwis

I am wondering why you had chosen to remove my entry, as to the origins of the kiwi bird. The comment next to your edit was unclear and probably did not nessessitate the removal of an entire entry. The source I provided for my information is an authentic news website, as well as Oxford University being well credited. This means that the information I have provided is as valid as any other source within the article. Thanks and I hope you understand my position.

[edit] Aotearoa (the word)

I have responded to your comments on Aotearoa (the word) at my talk page.
NevilleDNZ 10:03, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] North Island Volcanic Plateau

Hi Nurg - you wrote: I'm wondering where you got the info for the extent of this plateau, because I'm sure it's not right. You give the synonym Waimarino Plateau, which is not a common term or one that I'm familiar with. I wonder whether the scope of the article actually represents the Waimarino Plateau. I'm sure the VP extends to the north of the Rotorua lakes, ending where it dips down to the Bay of Plenty coastal region.

Ooo. Good question - that was several thousand edits ago! A lot of the articles I was doing back then I was using the Wise's Guide as a major reference, but it isn't in there, so I probably got it from an on-line source. Unfortunately, I can't find that source. Now that you mention it, it doesn't seem quite right - feel free to change it to something better! Grutness...wha? 11:59, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tom Iredale

Fine job copyediting this biography. JoJan 12:57, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of an image from New Zealand general election, 2005

Regarding the removal of an image from New Zealand general election, 2005: From http://www.elections.org.nz/elections/election-day-rules.html "On election day, candidates, political parties and others must: .. Not post any new material on websites. Existing website material does not have to be removed, as long as the website is not proactively promoted to voters." Since this is a international site i do not think NZ's laws would apply. --2mcmGespräch 01:53, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:NewZealandElectorates2005-Labeled.png

Thank you very much for pointing out the misspellings --2mcmGespräch 03:39, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Auckland edit comment

Thanks for the comments. They are always useful. And it was a bonus to see your hard to find links above.

I'm afraid my minor edit grew like Topsy and I forgot to untick the flag. It is my habit to ensure I put an Edit Summary and tick the appropriate boxes first. Too often I have forgotten to change this after many previews but it does prevent the opposite condition (minors unmarked). I don't think the sectio I worked on is close to finished yet either as I still find it a little empty. L-Bit 07:53, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Feshbach resonances etc...

Thank you for copyediting these articles. These were some of my first on WP. I hope you enjoyed reading them. Vb 11:52, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Richmal Oates-Whitehead

Hi, just saw your addition to the article by way of a link. Thanks for the same, especially since the article has not seen much action of late and I had been itching to look at some NZ sources about her. I had also placed a request on the NZ discussion board some time back. --Gurubrahma 08:50, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Blues

You are right. I changed the meaning because I think the previous paragraph didn't make sense here. The first sentence was about rock. The second was about blues. I think there must have been here some misunderstanding of the original editors. Do you think I have make an error? If yes please edit me back but try to make the sense of this paragraph clearer Vb alias 131.220.68.177 12:13, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hongi Hika

Thanks for your comments on my user page. I don't really care about changing 'te reo' to 'maori language', but feel strongly that ruling out the word myth disrupts the sense of the scentence. This is not to imply that Maori oral history/traditions were any more or less historically accurate than anyone elses. There is a gradual progression in accessibility and verifiability of information from myth to oral tradition to written history. I think, moving outside the politically charged arena of Pakeha/Maori views of history, that would be undisputed; the longer something remains in oral tradition the more corrupted and mythologised it becomes - this is illustrated in any society by the tendancy for events in the more distant past to be more fantastic, and also by the increasing errors in oral traditions which develop without knowledge of separate written records of the same events (the Alexander Romance, the Song of Roland). Part of Hongi Hika's importance is that his life lies across the end of this transition in New Zealand - birth date, date of the seagulls feast? Only a vague idea. Events of trip to England? Well documented. By his contribution to developing written Maori langauge, Hongi Hika contributed to this improvement in knowledge - and I hoped to subtly reinforce one of the article's themes - that his legacy is not only that of a warrior. USER:Winstonwolfe

[edit] Edward II

Thanks for your message. It seems you are correct. Adam 11:33, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1981 Springbok tour

Your comment that protestors included some rugby fans is of course completely correct. I feel adding it in to the middle of an already lengthy scentence not really on topic has made it rather clumsy. How would you feel about that statement being made in a separate scentence? WW

Sure. Go ahead. (but only if you promise to sign your comments using the 4 tildes in future  :-) Nurg 05:31, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry :-) P.S. you mentioned renaming the article - what did you have in mind? Winston Wolfe

[edit] "Evolution of organisms."

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparative_anatomy&diff=35570450&oldid=25627112

It looks like you are the one who wrote that organisms evolve. They most certainly do not. If I am mistaken that it was not you who wrote it, my apologies. -- 24.153.226.112 18:58, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cussonia spicata

Thanks for fixing the stub Cussonia spicata. It looks much better now. James084 13:33, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Auckland meetup

Just to let you know that a meetup is planned in Auckland for the 25th of June (see Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland for more details), and that you are cordially invited. GeorgeStepanek\talk 00:21, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Continent

Hi. I just noticed you reverted back to the usage of Oceania (instead of Australia) a few days ago. I don't really understand the reason for it, though -- Australia is a continent, and Oceania is not. Could you please explain? Thanks. -- bcasterlinetalk 23:01, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, happy to explain. I do not object to your intent, but things got a bit muddled in the execution. When you changed Oceania to Australia in the table it created duplicate lines, eg,
7 continents: Antarctica South America
North America
Europe Asia Africa Australia
7 continents: Antarctica South America
North America
Europe Asia Africa Australia
To achieve what you wanted, without creating duplicates, you would need to delete some of the lines containing Oceania, and to make the word change in some others. I would support you doing this. Why then, you might ask, did I not do this myself instead of reverting most of it. I took what I considered (from one point of view at least) to be the most conservative approach. If you consider I made a poor choice or that I was too timid, I have little defence. However, I did so as an interim measure, as I plan to revisit this article myself after further reading. Please accept my apologies if I made a poor interim decision. Nurg 00:38, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
No problem; I just didn't understand the reasoning. I didn't see that I had created duplicate lines, which was pretty sloppy.
Instead of just listing a number of different models, I'd say the article should provide explanations for the differences -- at the very least, distinguishing between models structured around geologic continents and those structured around geographic continents/regions (if the latter should be included at all). That seems to account for the differences between models, although it's unclear. I might do this myself if you don't get to it first. Thanks for explaining. -- bcasterlinetalk 00:56, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't much like the table of models, at least in its current state, and think I would prefer explanations too. I'm working up to a number of changes to the article but no need to wait for me. The more I read the more complexity I see, in that as well as the geologic and geographic views, the latter subdivides into phys geog (physiographic) and human geog views, which is where the cultural construct of the pseudocontinent of Oceania pops its head up. Despite our leaning to the geo side, I think there will still have to be a mention of Oceania somewhere, couched appropriately. Nurg 01:26, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2006 Kapa O Pango controversy

  • Sorry about using the incorrect name. Shouldn't the page be moved to the 2006 Kapa o Pango controversy?--HamedogTalk|@ 00:49, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Well it really more recent, because the media and John Connoly only made a deal of it this year--HamedogTalk|@ 06:10, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Haka articles

Thanks for telling me about your proposal. I have entered an 'oppose' but that is only to some of the details. I appreciate your efforts to rationalise these articles and would like to support you in that. Kahuroa 09:47, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

I've now changed to support after a minor expansion of Haka with a little material copied from Ka mate. Kahuroa 05:49, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Nurg - just wanted to let you know I changed "posture dance" to "war dance" in the article about Ka Mate. I don't think - in the context of the all Black haka - that this is controversial, but as it was originally your edit wanted to bring it to your attention. Regards ElectricRay 00:08, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SH 1

Thanks for your comment: I've changed the article accordingly. My source is the Transit NZ website. Birdhurst 03:13, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Continent

Thanks for your notification regarding Continent. I agree, that it would not make sense to do work in parallel. I had a look at your current version and it looks very promising, i am waiting curiously for the "final" version, which i understand can take some time still, it is a very extensive (and very interesting) topic. Let me know if i can be of help anywhere. My immediate suggestions (most of it you may have considered all ready): Australia is the continent (Australasia and oceania should be mentioned as more geopolitical alternatives), the table of continent models could be shortened to the 3..5 main models. I planned to start my work with translating nice parts of the german and and french continent articles and merging it into the english article. I copied this parts to my User:Ma xyz/Continent page, if you think they might be useful, let me know and i will still translate them (the definitions part is a good explication of the different possible continent definitions: gelogical, geophysical and geopolitical, the etymology part does explain the roots of the continents names, from the french wp i took the models part with the colored referencing, i like it), unfortunately i have currently no other useful sources for this parts than the respective wp articles. Ma xyz 18:42, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Transcontinental nation move request...

...at Talk:Transcontinental nation -  AjaxSmack  08:39, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] It was your deletion, after all...

Please reply to my comments at Talk:Use of the word American or else I am reverting your rather sudden deletion of my edits in a few days. If you're going to delete that much content, you're supposed to post a warning on the talk page first! --Coolcaesar 01:08, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Haka

I have created an article Haka in popular culture for the uses of the haka in non-traditional spheres. Part of my ongoing attempt to keep the article Haka to the subject. Hoperfully this will work, as did a similar on Moai in popular culture about gaming and entertainment use of the Easter Is. Moai statues. Cheers Kahuroa 05:37, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hugh Kawharu - bolding of titles

I don't have a definitive answer, despite looking through Wikipedia:Naming conventions (names and titles). However, it is clear that Sir Kawharu's article should be (and is) at Hugh Kawharu. Sorry to be of limited help - I just went with my instinct on de-highlighting the honorific. Cheers, Sliggy 16:01, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Southern Cross

I've answered your question on the Asterism (astronomy) discussion page. I hope it's both clear and satisfactory. If not, tell me, and I'll try again. B00P 10:10, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: solar system, stellar system

I may have added a later mention of the distinction between "stellar system" and "planetary system", to keep this article consistent with other articles, but I didn't introduce it. I don't know who did, but I'm fairly certain it was a user named E. Plurbius Anthony. A while back he went on a massive re-organising push to rigidly define concepts like "stellar system" and "planetary system" according to what he considered the correct diffrentiation. Since I was unable to find any conclusive evidence either way, I let the matter stand, rather than get involved in further arguments. Serendipodous 07:17, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Continent

Hello again; thanks for your praise. I also commend you for efforts to enhance the 'continent' article. Time permitting, I wish I could revamp the article as such (and I thought about revising the article lead as you have done): there seems to be a common misbelief, for instance, that plates delineate continents. I thought it important, at least given varied interpretations, to add citations/sources for the models etc. of note. As for the reference style I'm using, that's a good question: I think it somewhat resembles the name-date method used by the APA (not necessarily the Harvard method advocated by the Wp Manual of Style) but rendered in a format straight from memory (given my work in the sciences and the need to source everything), so please use authoritative style guides. :)

One comment regarding your 'revised' article lead: various definitions clearly indicate that a continent is a large continuous landmass (generally extending to the continental shelf); yet, the McGraw-Hill Concise Encyclopedia of Earth Science also indicates that (maps imply that) coastlines demarcate continents. As well, continents also generally include islands on the shelf/nearby. Your present lead implies that original reckonings exclude islands -- on its face, I wonder if this is incorrect. Anyhow, I wanted to point out the inclusion or not of islands is a matter of interpretation, not necessarily of propriety (e.g., British Isles).

Similarly, I also thank you for indulging me -- for lack of better phrasing -- regarding notations in the 'star system' article et al., which you may think I'm approaching in a manner contrary to the above! Even though sourcing seems to support your perspective, I truly believe that the current content is supportable (given usage, particularly in science fiction) and correct. Anyhow, let me know if you've any more questions. Cogito ergo sumo 03:28, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Hi

Thanks for your edits in Tochal and Alborz articles. --Neshatian 07:04, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] thanks for your input on dating methodology

cheers for you input. If you have a look at the Category:Methods and principles in archaeology you will a lot more where that came from . most in need of a better writing style than mine. Boris 12:48, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Australia (continent)

Whenever I inject a scholarly reference into an argument previously consisting of nothing but opinion and google, I consider the matter closed until someone provides a superior scholarly reference. Sadly, it almost never happens.

But it certainly has in this case. Thanks for your excellent position statement; it would have to be one of the most thoroughly researched and best written arguments I've seen on Wikipedia. I suspect I learned more from reading it than from reading the article.

Hesperian 11:53, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Australia-New_Guinea

Please explain why you have cloned Australia (continent) into two identical articles. Please explain why Australia (continent) and what you call Australia-New Guinea, are so different as to require separate articles.58.107.15.245 17:58, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi. I didn't clone it into two identical articles - I split it into 2 articles on different topics but someone else reverted my change to Australia (continent), which is how we currently have two near-identical articles. To see what I intend, look at the draft at User:Nurg/Australia_(continent), cf. User:Nurg/Australia-New_Guinea. There is discussion happening at Talk:Australia_(continent) which will give you more info. Nurg 04:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Auckland Meetup 2 Scheduled - Feb 10 2007

You are all invited to Auckland Meetup 2 on the afternoon of Saturday February 10th 2007 at Galbraith's Ale House in Mt Eden. Please see Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland 2 for details. You can also bookmark Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland to be informed of future NZ meetups. - SimonLyall 05:37, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tectonic plates

Hello, I've taken the liberty of changing the image of tectonic plates you have in your article-in-creation to Image:Plates tect2 en.svg per recommendations on the earlier image's page. Hope you don't mind. Cheers, Ouro (blah blah) 20:06, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dashes

The characters are n dashes.

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Leandro GFC Dutra (talk) 15:47, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dashes

If you look at your reference, you will see that I haven’t changed, to the best of my knowledge, any real hyphen — only hyphens incorrectly used in place of dashes.

Your computer does have a problem, please check why.

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Leandro GFC Dutra (talk) 01:55, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE; whitelist request

I appologise. Ive had to reverse your white listing request[1] per WP:COPYRIGHT. My error for not spotting this previously. --Hu12 (talk) 07:57, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. That alerted me to the fact that it was not the original source and I managed to track down the orig. Nurg (talk) 09:38, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:AUK

WikiProject Auckland This is an invitation to WikiProject Auckland, a WikiProject which aims to develop and expand Wikipedia's articles on Auckland. Please feel free to join us.

Taifarious1 09:59, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ANZAC

I've moved ANZAC as requested, and done a bit of clean-up afterwards (avoiding double redirects, and added a see-also). Hope this covers everything, but let me know, or another admin, if there's anything else that needs doing. —  Tivedshambo  (t/c) 23:03, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Minor edit

Hi - the copyediting is great but I don't think you should be using the minor edit tag for your edits when you are making quite a few changes. See Help:Minor edit - I realise the edits do sort of fit within the scope but to me the tag is for when you just make one little change not a whole series of little changes. Nothing wrong with the changes you are making in my view though! Regards--Matilda talk 05:49, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Matilda. Reviewing my most recent edits, I see one that I agree I should not have flagged as minor. Others are in a grey area. Unfortunately Help:Minor edit omits to address copy editing that involves substantial rewording without changing the facts. I'll take your thoughts on board and perhaps be more conservative about using the minor flag. Nurg (talk) 06:25, 18 May 2008 (UTC)