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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Numbers.png

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Numbers 08.png

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Numbers.png

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[edit] Notable omissions

I had removed this section from the article because there was no source and the feature was not explained. Doing some Google searching revealed nothing. You said it means its impossible to use large spreadsheets, but this isn't the case. If you're going to re-add it, please include a citation (preferably from a notable site and not a forum post, though) and clear explanation. Also, a note about analytic tools might be a good thing to have in such a section. Althepal (talk) 04:59, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I give up. If it matters that much to you to conceal this information, then go a head and hide it. If you examine the forums you'll see that there are thousands of posts about this. I'm also surprised you found nothing by searching. There are many of attempts by users to find or develop a "fix", all of them elaborate and mostly useless. You can create large spreadsheets in Numbers (of course) but can't use them, because there's no way to lock the column and row headers when you scroll, and a a result there's no way to know what column or row you're looking at once the row or column header has scrolled off the screen. — Aldaron • T/C 14:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I still don't see what you mean. I can work with large spreadsheets just fine. I don't notice any difference between that in Numbers and in Excel. Forum posts aren't really notable... can you please show me a source (even a specific forum conversation just so I understand what the issue is)? I don't want to conceal any information, its that what was in the article is unclear and not sourced. If its going to be there, it needs to be clear. Now, from your description: "there's no way to lock the column and row headers when you scroll, and a a result there's no way to know what column or row you're looking at once the row or column header has scrolled off the screen". Here: http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/435/picture1kx0.png . I took a screenshot, and I made it so the spreadsheet is beyond the window, and I scrolled to the bottom-right corner, and it shows which column/row I'm in. I'm not sure what you mean by "lock", so maybe I'm missing something? Please clarify? Althepal (talk) 19:15, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes, that's the issue: those headers lock, but contain no user supplied information (like the names of the columns). In Excel (and believe me, I'm not defending Excel!) you can "lock" several uppermost rows, and/or several leftmost columns to serve as informative labels for the contents of the corresponding columns and rows. That's what Numbers lacks, and that's why it cannot be used for tables of any significant size. — Aldaron • T/C 22:47, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Ok, if I understand what you mean, that might be something to include. However, I'm trying right now in Excel 2008 and am no more able to label cell numbers there than in Numbers (unless this is some kind of feature I've never noticed?). Maybe you can show me screenshots of the difference? So if you add it, just make sure that all this is clear in the section, and please provide some kind of citation. Also, like I said, I've heard things (but never tried it out) about a difference in analytic tools between Excel and Numbers, being a reason scientists only want to use Office. I don't know much about the topic, but maybe you can add a note about this if you re-add the section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Althepal (talk • contribs) 00:23, 16 February 2008 (UTC)