Talk:Nu Gundam

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I never saw Char's CounterAttack, what are the Fin Funnels? From what i read, It seems that the DRAGOON system was derived from it? Zer0_Gun

While both are remote weapon, DRAGOON is manual control while fin funnel is psychic control. L-Zwei 11:39, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Then I'm guessing that probably the DRAGOON was base off it then, considering Gundam Seed has lots similarites to the Universial Century? And it doesn't really descride the Fin Funnels too well so i'm still confuse to how they actully work....can't find a site to download Char's Counterattack. Zer0_Gun

Well, fin funnel is just one of several psycommu remote weapon exist in UC series. DRAGOON is technically closer to shot claw used by Rig Contio (from V Gundam), since both are wireless manual control (and there are also wire shot claw used by Contio, which could be compare to Gunbarrel of SEED) L-Zwei 17:34, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Could someone get a pic of Hi-Nu Gundam? I saw one that was the same style of the ones on Gundams on G Wing page? Zer0_Gun

Yes Gundam SEED derived more from Universal Century than any of the Alternate Universe Gundam's. The Strike Freedom in fact, was originally going to be called "Nu-Freedom" as a tribute to the Nu Gundam. I sort of wish they went with that, it would of been classy. Strike Freedom is such a painfully unoriginal name... Lets just combine the names of Kira's first and second Gundam unit! Ai...

Yeah, the Fin Funnels are mind controlled weapon pods. In the UC timeline, there is a type of human known as a "Newtype", an evolved form of humanity that was created by adaptation to living in space. Basically similar to the Coordinators except that the Newtype phenomenon is completely natural, a sorta miracle of genetics and nature. Also, while the Coordinator's strength lies in their highly improved reflexes, multi tasking ability, calculation, and such the Newtype's strength is far more mental. All of the Newtype's strengths, increased senses, perception, telepathy, a 6th sense of sorts, and massively increased brain function as well as a variety of psychic phenomenon (like Camille summoning the spirits of his dead friends to aid him in the end of Zeta Gundam), are all from the mind. So Newtypes are mind, Coordinator's are more body and impulse. Anyways, I'm rambling. Point is, is that in the UC universe, Newtypes have the ability to use weapons called Funnels, as well as other psychic weaponry. They can mentally control the funnels to do their bidding as opposed to relying on artificial intelligence. In all honesty, the things Funnel users have done kicks the bejezus out of anything DRAGOON has done...but anyways thats the main difference. The Fin Funnels in particular can simply last a lot longer. In all the series', the big problem with Funnels is that they have limited fuel and energy..so they have to dock with the Mobile Suit after a short period of time constantly to sort of "Refuel" their energy. The Fin Funnels all have individual generators so they can stay out far longer, and they also fire stronger beams and can be used in other creative ways as Amuro shows. Looks wise...they look like big uh...twin fins that sorta make a shape like this...

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The beam is shot out of the middle...if you have ever seen Macross, they're like miniature versions of the SDF_01's main cannon in how they fire. Just imagine these..

http://scifimodels.org.uk/reviews/picts/nugundam/PIC16.JPG

...each individually floating around and folded in half.--68.233.141.149 12:16, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Funnel?

Well, I will quote current revision:

“ The ν Gundam is also one of the only Gundam type Mobile Suits to use funnel type weapons, the four others hailing from alternate universes: GF13-009NF Gundam Rose from Mobile Fighter G Gundam of the Future Century, ZGMF-X13A Providence Gundam from Gundam SEED of the Cosmic Era, ZGMF-X20A Strike Freedom Gundam from Gundam SEED Destiny, and ZGMF-X666S Legend Gundam, also from Gundam SEED Destiny. ν Gundam however, remains the most prolific Gundam type to use funnel weapons.”

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I want to ask something, as far as I remember, at least there is one another Gundam type Mobile Suits to use "funnel" type weapons in animated series, the ORB-01 Akatsuki from Gundam SEED Destiny (called as DRAGOON). If I remember correctly , Xi Gundam from Hathaway flash also utilizing funnel type weapon, not to mention that the Hi Nu also use same weapon (though both Nu's funnel are functionally equivalent to bits, which may worth to consider adding G-Bits from Gundam X (!^^) ). I think rather than mention the number, just mention it would be better. Draconins 04:36, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I guess that is because of the time frame when that paragraph was written. That should be changed since funnel only appears in UC timeline, in all other timelines, they are not called so. It could be changed to cordless remote controlled weapons. Secondly, Xi Gundam uses psycommu missles, technically it is not using funnels(which shoots out beams instead of suicidal attacks). There are just too many examples for now and it is not worth mentioning them any more. MythSearcher^talk 05:08, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Good Answer. Well, it is better than mention the number. Draconins 05:58, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi-Nu Fin-Funnel

I remember reading somewhere that the funnel(s) of Hi-Nu are rechargable at the backpack (different to the original Nu), which is not stated in the text. I believe it was also why there has been a distinction in ammo type of the weapon for the two mecha in most SRW games in which they both appear. DyC Ei 23:20, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

You are right, Hi-Nu's back pack is called funnel pod, which supports the recharging of the funnels. However, there are no related settings on Nu's back pack. By common sense, they should be different, but in Wikipedia, somehow this might fall into the speculation or Original research action, and thus the article remains as it is after the no conclusion since the last discussion. I support in using that common sense to add in the info. MythSearcher^talk 05:36, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] They're called "Fannels"

The weapons are always Romanized as fannel. Just an FYI. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.105.214.102 (talk) 19:58, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

• But Funnel is official translation. *SIGH* You will "be a Char" if trust Japanese's Engrish. L-Zwei (talk) 05:56, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Fannel is definitely incorrect. The original of the name comes from Funnel shaped weapons which were used on Qubeley. Thus the correct spelling is Funnel, not fannel. It is not a translation problem, it is how the word should be. The pronounciation of the word might be with an -a sound in Japan, but it is because if the word used is Fu, the pronounciation would become like foonnel. Also, the always romanized as fannel statement can be easily counter-argued by MG instruction manuals Qubeley, Nu Gundam, Hi-Nu, Hi-Nu coloured. MythSearcher^talk 06:24, 5 February 2008 (UTC)