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[edit] 2005

Please clarify the difference between this and Template:dbc. - Omegatron 14:59, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)

This template is to be used instead of listing on WP:IFD. dbenbenn | talk 14:45, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

This template should have Image: included in it, so one wouldn't have to write it every time using the template. Jon Harald Søby 16:39, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wrong Spelling

At the bottom of the template, {{NowCommonsThis}} is mistyped as {{NowCommonsthis}}.--Hello World! 04:32, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please revert the last edit

Someone with admin status changed {{NowCommonsThis}} to {{NowCommonsthis}} because of "capitalization" but there's no template with this name. --Denniss 04:39, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Done. Thanks. JesseW, the juggling janitor 04:42, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please add category sort key

This template is protected. It needs a sort key added to the category link, so

[[Category:Wikipedia maintenance templates]]

needs to change to

[[Category:Wikipedia maintenance templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]

– Doug Bell talk•contrib 01:11, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Done.thanks. --Pamri • Talk 07:29, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please un-italicize the image link

per Template:NCT. this is more readable. thanks. NTK 04:54, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal: Merging this Template and Template:NowCommonsThis

Most other-language Wikipedias use only one Template for the purpose we have two for, i.e. NowCommons without a parameter links to the same image name on Commons, and a parameter can be given to link to a different name on Commons. I propose adding this functionality to this template as well, and redirecting Template:NowCommonsThis (which isn't used with a parameter) here. Is there any reason not to do this? -- grm_wnr Esc 17:23, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Oppose You may have not noticed both templates have their own categories. NCT should offer a more easy move than NC because the same file is on the Commons thus requiring only a quick verification and local deletion. NC usually requires more work. --Denniss 19:03, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Support, even though I realize this discussion is old. I see more than a few images that are tagged with NowCommons that should be NowCommonsThis. These two templates can be merged and still retain all functionality through ParserFunctions; once merged, the NC/NCT errors will be reduced, making it easier to clean out the images. Pagrashtak 14:55, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Support Parser functions here, no-brainer, assume same file name unless a paramater is added. Hbdragon88 02:23, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Support - Same reason given above. Yuval Madar 13:11, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

I also support the merger, and I have implemented it. Please double check. Conscious 09:51, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Upgrade category

As explained on WP:CR please replace
...<includeonly>[[Category:etc.]]</includeonly> by
...<includeonly>{{{category|[[Category:etc.]]}}}</includeonly>.

This allows to bypass the category for template lists. -- Omniplex 09:46, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Done, please check it is case I have made a typo.--Commander Keane 17:14, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
The category is fine, thanks. -- Omniplex 21:15, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image in the template

Could someone with admin status insert a thumbnail image (similar to on sv:Mall:NowCommons). The benefit is that

a) It's easy to verify that the image is indeed the same
b) It's easy to spot when there exists a another local image with the same name as the commons one. For these images a replacement cannot be done until the local image has been renamed.
/Lokal_Profil 23:00, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Simply add something like | [[Image:{{{1|Commons-logo.svg}}}|40px|center|Commons]] in the end of the template
Lokal_Profil 23:09, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
I don't see the advantage here. It doesn't make it any easier to verify that the image is the same; one would still have to actually look at the image on Commons. How am I to tell from the small thumbnail that the image on Commons is not an enlargement or reduction? As for point b), I'm not sure what you're saying. Can you clarify? In any case, this needs to be discussed first. Pagrashtak 00:38, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
As for point b. What I meant was in the case of the local image, foo1.jpg say, being identical to foo.jpg on Commons but there also existing a foo.jpg locally (not identical to the foo.jpg on Commons). Then an image would quickly tell a person wieving the NC tag that a replacement cannot be done until the local image has been renamed. For an example see sv:Bild:Skanderberg_skulptur.jpg
A third point is that an image in the NC tag would mean that the page would appear on the "check usage"-list on the Commons image. Therefor if there is a decision to delete the Commons image the NC tag would also be removed. As it is now I've spoted several NC tags pointing to deleted commons images. /Lokal_Profil 00:50, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
If you're pointing to a local image, you've just nullified point a). As I stated before, it's hard to tell from a thumbnail if images are identical, so this would not adequately serve the purpose of point b). This isn't enough to persuade me to add an image. Pagrashtak 01:17, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Don't see how you can say that it doesn't serve the purpose of point b, did you look at the example?. Also putting it the other way around. Is there any downside to having the image there? /Lokal_Profil 01:49, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Here's the problems with point b. When an image appears, you can't know if it's a local image or a Commons image until you click the link, which means you might as well just use a link. Furthermore, if even you could tell where the image was, a thumbnail does not give you enough information to determine if it is identical. It's not up to me to prove disadvantages of implementing this, it's your proposal. Pagrashtak 02:36, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Consensus does not seem to have been reached on this; removing editprotected tag until such time as it is reached. Thanks! JesseW, the juggling janitor 06:47, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, I think the suggestion is exellent, because it makes it easy to spot any possible problems, for example these:

  1. Wrong spelling of the filename
  2. Image is deleted at commons
  3. Substantial differences between the images
  4. Other local image with the same name as the commons image

Obviously the administrator would still have to check that everything is alright before deleting any image, but this line makes it possible to quickly find some problems, and it provides a link to the local image page with the same name as the commons image. You should try it for a while, than you don't want to live without it. --Boivie 11:29, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit protect

This template should explain how to mark images if the filename is different; for instance, do you have to put Image: before the filename or does this template already do that? The NowCommonsThis line from the See also section ought ot be removed as well as it's just now a redirect into this one. Hbdragon88 18:42, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Both done. AnonEMouse (squeak) 20:50, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Confusion

I'm confused. How is this template different from NowCommonsRedundant? Which should I transclude to this image which is available at Commons here? Please clarify. --Iamunknown 00:38, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] interwiki

Please add Danish interwiki:

[[da:Skabelon:Nowcommons]]

--Ysangkok 21:16, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Done. --Sherool (talk) 19:03, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

And Russian iwiki:

[[ru:Шаблон:Перенесено на Викисклад]]

--Alex Spade 10:18, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Done. Conscious 13:40, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Change with parser functions

I changed the parser function to add it to the correct category even if the name parameter is there but the same, before a lot of people added the name parameter sometimes even when it was the same name. This made it seem like it had a different name on commons, and just to make sure, I feel like I need to check (not just visual). Now even if someone adds the parameter it compares. Additionally it adds all the images to generic categories that are not date based. This is how {{nsd}} and {{nld}} do it, and helps keep things from getting lost. It's actually required for this edit because otherwise things would get thrown in nonexistent categories. After the job queue completes I will go and make any new categories that need to be made. - cohesion 02:31, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Interwiki

Please, add pl:Szablon:NowCommons. Pilecka 14:45, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Please add ar:قالب:الآن كومنز. --Pmsyyz 04:11, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Y Done. Sandstein 22:27, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Icon change

{{editprotected}} Polish Wikipedia version of this template uses smart icons for indicating whether picture has the same name (can be safely removed) or different name. Perhaps they should be also introduced here? --Derbeth talk 16:39, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Just because the picture has the same name doesn't mean it is an identical picture. It would therefore encourage trigger happy admins not to check further before deleting and just go ahead and delete when the name is identical on commons and en so I am opposed to this sort of change.

By the way, as an aside, please update the Hebrew Wikipedia interwiki link to [[he:תבנית:גם בוויקישיתוף]]

Thanks, Yonatan (contribs/talk) 00:30, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Y Interwiki done. N No consensus for the icons. Sandstein 22:27, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Changes needed on article

All of the Move to x templates have been renamed Copy to x, these need to be fixed in the article. --Xyzzyplugh 02:30, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

{{editprotected}}

Y Done. Sandstein 22:22, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Interwiki link for Interligua

{{editprotected}} Dear administrator, please add the following interwiki link:

[[ia:Patrono:NowCommons]]

Thank you in advance, Julian 15:13, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Y Done. Sandstein 22:22, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More interwiki links to be added to protected template

Hi, I saw that someone had added an interwiki link to the German version of this template. So I checked to see was it here, and it wasn't. I saw that this template is fully protected, so I couldn't add it, but I added it to the French version of the template. Looking at the source code for the French and German versions, and comparing them with the English version, I've worked out that we need the following additions:

Could an administrator add them, please. Thanks. ElinorD (talk) 10:17, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

{{Editprotected}}

Just realised that I should have used the editprotected template! ElinorD (talk) 17:50, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Y Done Adambro 18:10, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. ElinorD (talk) 18:12, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

{{Editprotected}} I've just discovered that there's one at Hungarian Wikipedia:

Sorry I didn't know that when I made my original request earlier today. ElinorD (talk) 20:13, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Y Done No problem. Adambro 21:51, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Interwiki to japanese version

{{Editprotected}} There is a Template:NowCommons in japanese Wikipedia (same name) so I'd like to propose addition of [[ja:Template:NowCommons]] --Speck-Made 00:06, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Done. Cheers. --MZMcBride 01:17, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Editprotect for Cat

{{EditProtected}} Per the ongoing effort to tag templates by namespace used within, please change the following first line of the template:

<noinclude>{{shortcut|{{subst:[[template:ncd|ncd]]}}}}
to this
<noinclude>{{shortcut|{{subst:[[template:ncd|ncd]]}}}}
<!-- Same cats as {{tl|Ncd}} -->
[[Category:Image namespace templates|{{PAGENAME}}]
[[Category:Deletion templates |{{PAGENAME}}]]
[[Category:Transwiki templates |{{PAGENAME}}]]
  • No need to worry about the newline inside such a noinclude block, so the separate lines will keep things more clear.

Thanks. // FrankB 16:29, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Done. However, please be careful when writing new code. An error in the code above caused one of the category links to not work. Cheers. --MZMcBride 19:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] small changes to interwiki

{{Editprotected}}

change

  • [[fr:Modèle:Nowcommons]] to [[fr:Modèle:Désormais sur Commons]],
  • [[hr:template:NowCommons]] to [[hr:Predložak:NowCommons]],
  • [[da:Skabelon:Nowcommons]] to [[da:Skabelon:NowCommons]] and
  • swap places of [[it:Template:NowCommons]] and [[ia:Patrono:NowCommons]]

--Speck-Made 10:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Y Done --ais523 12:36, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit Proposal

{{editprotected}} Could someone change the section

{{#if: {{{month|}}} | | <div style="font-size:200%;text-align:center;">Please do not use this template directly. Use <nowiki>{{subst:ncd}} or {{subst:ncd|Image:Filename.ext}} instead.}}</nowiki>

and add subst:NCD}}"</nowiki> ? The advantages of this replacement is the fact that when somebody puts {{NCT}} it is the same that {{subst:NCD}}. Helios 09:22, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Interwiki (sl)

Please add the following interwiki: sl:Predloga:OdslejZbirka. Thanks Gugganij 10:57, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] more interwiki

{{editprotected}} Some Interwiki: --Speck-Made (talk) 20:11, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

af:Sjabloon:NowCommons bar:Vorlage:NowCommons ca:Plantilla:AraCommons cs:Šablona:NowCommons eo:Ŝablono:NowCommons es:Plantilla:EnCommons et:Mall:NüüdCommonsis fa:الگو:NowCommons fi:Malline:NowCommons id:Templat:NowCommons ko:틀:NowCommons la:Formula:NowCommons ms:Templat:NowCommons nn:Mal:No på Commons pt:Predefinição:NowCommons ro:Format:AcumCommons simple:Template:Nowcommons sl:Predloga:OdslejZbirka sr:Шаблон:NowCommons ur:سانچہ:NowCommons zh-min-nan:Template:Commons ū zh-yue:Template:NowCommons

Y Done DMacks (talk) 21:48, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] line height

{{editprotected}}

Please add "line-height:normal;" to the style of the first div to avoid text bunching. Dragons flight (talk) 09:40, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Y Done. Sandstein (talk) 23:03, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Editprotected

{{editprotected}}

Currently, every image in the categories is listed under I, for image. All that needs to be added is {{DELFAULTSORT:{{PAGENAME}}}} to the template, that sorts them under their real name. Soxred93 (u t) 22:31, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Y Done --CapitalR (talk) 07:10, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] mk interwiki

{{editprotected}} Please add mk:Шаблон:NowCommons interwiki. Thanks. --iNkubusse? 02:32, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Done. --- RockMFR 03:26, 15 May 2008 (UTC)