Talk:November 1989 Tornado Outbreak

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Contents 1 Relationship to East Coldenham Elementary School disaster 2 Mont Saint-Hilaire Tornado 3 Merging Comments from redirected article 3.1 Tornado or downburst

[edit] Relationship to East Coldenham Elementary School disaster

Was this tornado outbreak related to the East Coldenham Elementary School disaster which happened the very next day (questionable tornado that killed nine) at all? Or were they different systems? CrazyC83 01:13, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Living remarkably close from Newburg, I think that they were the from the same system. Juliancolton 14:49, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mont Saint-Hilaire Tornado

I have been listening to Meteo Media in Quebec when i've learn about the Mont-Saint-Hilaire, Quebec tornado that occured on the 16th. Since i've caught the info about the Huntsville tornado that occured a day earlier and that it was a very warm day in Quebec on the 16th (and likely the storm was from the same and powerful system that hit Alabama)i've added that tornado in the total count which brings it to 19 for the outbreak (It was an F2 by the way).

I've presumed by the way that this tornado was not counted (since it says only the eastern U.S, if not put it back to 18 (and 7 for F2)--JForget 18:16, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I am trying to put all the pieces to the puzzle myself - if that was related, the East Coldenham tornado (9 deaths) was definitely also related. If all the pieces come together and they were indeed related, then I will recommend a merge and expansion (with Huntsville obviously getting a large section). A similar case is going on with May 30-31, 1998 (which is currently scattered in three articles - tornado outbreak afternoon of the 30th, derecho overnight, another tornado outbreak the next afternoon. CrazyC83 04:45, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I went through the NCDC database and found a large number of tornadoes in the Mid-Atlantic and a few in the Carolinas. Conclusion: they were indeed connected. There were up to 45 tornadoes in the US on November 15 and 16, 1989. Hence, I recommend a large-scale merge, into a renamed article November 1989 Tornado Outbreak (or Mid-November 1989 Tornado Outbreak if it needs to be disambiguated). Geographic names become useless due to two deadly and noteworthy tornadoes. CrazyC83 05:02, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Considering that the article is a stub, it can very well be added as a section to this article. Although, considering that this tornado was by far the deadliest of the outbreak it would be preferable to keep the name Huntsville in the title, maybe to change it to the 1989 Huntsville tornado outbreak or something like that. --JForget 21:34, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

The Mid-Atlantic states are a long way from Alabama though... CrazyC83 04:03, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Merges, rewriting and addition of other tornadoes completed. The actual outbreak total is 40. CrazyC83 04:04, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merging Comments from redirected article

[edit] Tornado or downburst

The leading expert in tornadoes and wind damage surveys, Ted Fujita, surveyed this event soon after its occurrence and was confident that it was caused by straight-line winds (a downburst), not a tornado. The NWS did not change this in the official record, however. I don't have the original survey documents, but this is verifiable from Significant Tornadoes (1993) by Thomas P. Grazulis. Evolauxia 11:43, 25 July 2006 (UTC) Gopher backer 04:35, 1 August 2007 (UTC)