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[edit] Info

Vital information on this article about it's formation and height were not on there so I just added them in. - (Erebus555 16:38, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC))


[edit] Valid claims? Numbers needed.

The article says: Only one eruption in historic times, Greece's Santorini in about 1500 B.C., displaced more volcanic matter than Novarupta.

I highly doubt that claim is factual. What about Tambora? Some numbers to back up the claim would be nice. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 131.107.0.77 (talk • contribs) 20:56, April 17, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed Merger

I beleive that the article (stub) 1912 Novarupta eruption is (will) be redundant with Novarupta and as such the content from 1912 Novarupta eruption should be merged into this article and the stub removed. --Burntnickel 11:20, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Novarupta vs. Mt. Pinatubo

The Mt. Pinatubo article says it is the largest eruption of the 20th century; both can't be right!R Young {yakłtalk} 06:21, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

According to "http://volcano.und.edu/vwdocs/Gases/pinatubo.html" Mt. Pinatubo is number 3 at 5 cubic km and Novarupta ejected 21 cubic km "http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Volcanoes/Alaska/description_1912_eruption_novarupta.html". --Burntnickel 13:40, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I have seen many sources that state that pinatubo was the biggest volcanic eruption since krakatoa and it erupted around 17 cubic km of material and that novarupta or Mt. Katami as it's also known erupted around 15 cubic km. Wiki235 11:04, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Does anyone have any references for any of these? There seem to be a lot of conflicting claims. (VolcanoWorld claims 30 cubic km!) For what its worth, the Novarupta vent and Mt. Katmai are about six miles apart. There seems to be confusion over the assosication of the names with the eruption and whether to consider Novarupta a separate volcano or just a separate vent of Mt. Karami. (The Smithsonian lists them as separate volcanos "http://www.volcano.si.edu/world/volcano.cfm?vnum=1102-18-", and claims Novarupta as the largest of the 20th century). --Burntnickel 15:17, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lava Dome vs. Caldera

I'm not sure what references include a caldera for Novarupta. From what I have read Novarupta usually refers to the vent, the eruption and the dome plugging the vent. Certainly there was a caldera forming collapse due to the eruption at Katmai, or is there a reference that considers the subsidence of the area surrounding the vent to be a caldera? --Burntnickel 11:05, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I had always thought as you did, that Novarupta refers to the vent and lava dome only, and not any caldera. Hence my initial change to the article (getting rid of caldera, putting in lava dome). But a quick glance at the GVP ref showed that "The face of Falling Mountain, behind Novarupta dome, was sheared off by a 2-km-wide collapse around the Novarupta vent" and "a 2-km-wide area of subsidence NW of Trident volcano. The NE side of the Falling Mountain lava dome of the Trident volcanic cluster, as well as Broken Mountain and Baked Mountain, was removed by collapse of the Novarupta depression, which is marked by radial and scalloped arcuate fractures." So I decided to go with the "Caldera with lava dome" phrasing, and added both categories to the article.
This is another article in need of massive expansion. The largest eruption of the 20th century, and with only a couple of paragraphs devoted to it? This is a good candidate to quickly turn into a GA, and maybe even an FA eventually, since so many good refs are available. --Seattle Skier (talk) 19:59, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
After reviewing some additional references I agree with the addition of caldera. There is quite a bit of information avaliable on this eruption and as you say it shouldn't take a lot of effort to improve the article quality. I wish I had the time to devote to it. When (if) I get some time I'll take a stab at improving it. --Burntnickel 10:56, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Just wanted to note that if a Wiki editor does not include the primary morphological volcano type as listed on the GVP site, they should probably have some extremely new reference to support it. Volcano type determinations are made by an experienced volcanologist who monitors and evaluates the professional literature very closely (24 references for Novarupta are listed that directly relate to the data included on the GVP site). For Novarupta, the primary type is Caldera, with Lava Dome (look under Synonyms and Subfeatures) as a secondary type. Multiple types are very common. More discussion about types is on the GVP Volcanoes Data Criteria page.GVP Webmaster 14:45, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Is this a disagreement with the type listed for Novarupta or just a general comment? (The currently listed type is caldera with lava dome.) --Burntnickel 15:12, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Just a comment for the further education of those interested in the issue. No problem with how you guys sorted it out for this volcano.GVP Webmaster 13:14, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bringing to B

It would be nice if this article was expanded. It surprised me when I saw that something rather significant had such a short article. Thanks, Meldshal42Hit meWhat I've Done 19:25, 29 April 2008 (UTC)