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Requests for information or comment

Indic name needed

Do you need the Indic name(s) of something or somebody? Post a link to the article here, the Indic script(s) needed, and/or the Indic language transliteration requested.

Indian military history task force

New wikiproject for Indian military history! Your help is needed.--D-Boy 07:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Pangong Lake

Please give your vote as to whether this pic should be removed from FP status. This is not soliciting yor vote. Thanks! --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 06:23, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


Ancient India stubs

There are a large number of stubs relating to ancient India. Can we have a stub category for them for better management and organisation of such pages .There are such stubs for Rome, Egypt and Greece .Category:Ancient Greece stubs Category:Ancient Rome stubs Category:Ancient Egypt stubs. Can an experienced editor create/organise one ? --Shyamsunder 10:20, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Economy of India

Economy of India is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy 03:21, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Useful new template

I just thought everyone would like the new {{indichelp}} template. Please use this on a user's talk page when they edit Indic text without enabling complex text support. Everyone knows that these users are simply trying to be helpful, and I'm sure they'd appreciate this tip. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 22:56, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Nice one.. thanks. -- Lost 02:14, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks Sukh. I have required this in the past and had to do with a lot manual typing. Just what I needed. One minor change can be incorporated. As this is just one time editing, we don't need to write the short-form (WP:COMPLEX), and we should preferably use the full article name. What do you think? — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 06:21, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Peer review

Peer review department has a new request, Gulzar. I request everyone to please contribute to it and make the peer review process useful. This would be a first level peer-review by India project members before submission to the main peer review. - Ganeshk (talk) 23:07, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Grammar article location

Input is desired on the best solution for the location for the article(s) covering Hindi/Urdu/Hindustani grammar. Thanks all. - Taxman Talk 05:00, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Hinduism-related article?

I have no idea whether Official Website of Shree Vallabhacharyaji Third Seat of Pushtimarg - Kankroli is an Hinduism essay or biography, or something else altogether. Perhaps some Indian editor can comment at its AfD. Kimchi.sg 15:40, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Request to admins : Shiv Sena, Subhash Bose et. al

Can an admin keep track of User:Subhash bose and the articles that he is involved in especially Shiv Sena. There is plenty of mud-slinging happening there, by and towards him. Tintin (talk) 10:53, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Help with translations

I'm currently working on a script intended to create short articles on political parties on a variety of wikipedias simultaneously. However, in order for the technique to work I need help with translations to various languages. If you know any of the languages listed at User:Soman/Lang-Help, then please help by filling in the blanks. Indian languages includes Hindi, Marathi, Tamil, Telugu, Kannada and Urdu. Thanks, --Soman 12:11, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Intervention needed: User:Mahawiki

Mahawiki (talk · contribs), whose constructive (non-deletion, non-revertion) contribution to Wikipedia consists of not much more than this, surfaces every week or so to troll the same 3-4 pages. He removes "Kannadi vandalism," being all mention of the Mahajan Commission Report and of the existance of Kannada people in towns on the Maharashtra-Karnataka border. I have repeatedly asked him not to use the pejorative "Kannadi" and reasoned with him repeatedly on content (for instance here, here, here) to no avail, and now we have a call-to-arms from him. He doesn't seem like a bad guy, just very very POV, so I am hoping that if someone else (with no "Kannadi" connections) reasons with him, there may be good effect. I do not feel up to taking up another such issue. Please help. ImpuMozhi 12:49, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Supreme Court judgment details

Can someone answer this, please ? -- Sundar \talk \contribs 14:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Jainism

It needs some help. The Jainism section is pretty poor.--D-Boy 20:38, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Look who's coming...

Perhaps its outdated news, but - Jimbo is coming to India!! -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK13:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I found that long back from User:Jimbo Wales's userpage. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 13:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
We can try to arrange a meeting of wikipedians in Bangalore/Delhi with him. Since I've had some "official" correspondence with him in the past, I've emailed him asking if he has some time to spare. (After the edit conflict with Ambuj, I realise it may be premature.) -- Sundar \talk \contribs 13:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Where's Delhi on the list? I couldn't find it (and I'm in Delhi). --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 14:31, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
He says it in the link provided by Deepu -- Lost(talk) 14:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
A meting would be nice. Even if many of us may not make it to Delhi or Bangalore, at least some may manage to meet.We can ask him on his itinerary, when he is coming to Delhi.--Dwaipayan (talk) 11:26, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

i did not realize, but the link "jimbo is coming to india" refers to my talk page and i did not even had the slightest idea. (of this being shared on this page) please inform me if anybody has any information of his visit in delhi and if he is meeting the common wikipedians. i live in delhi, and anything for jimbo

i asked him for his itinerary, but it seems he is too busy, understandably too. anyone else, if gets, any details of his visits, please share.

nids 09:51, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Hehe..sorry for spying, nids. Was taking a trivial look at Jimbo's contributions and spotted this. ;-) -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK05:57, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Interesting stuff

Rei-bot has been translating towns created by User:Ganeshbot into Porteugese. The amazing thing is they used AWB to do it. They have global settings in AWB for translations. This is a link to the discussion there. This is for Sundar, check out pt:Ettayapuram in Porteugese. Pretty cool. :)- Ganeshk (talk) 17:42, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Excellent! You've seeded a substantial Indian presence that is absolutely inclusive too (per pt:Ettayapuram) on the multilingual web, all out of almost a single document. You (we) never know how big the harvest would be! Kudos to you. (By the way, I've granted bot access to Ganeshbot in Tamil Wiki.) -- Sundar \talk \contribs 12:02, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
That's great Ganesh! =Nichalp «Talk»= 11:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Question about Punjab, Haryana, Delhi and Chandigarh

Can someone please expand on the official use of Punjabi and Hindi in these states? My understanding is that Punjabi is the first language of Punjab, and a second language of Delhi. However, I'm unable to find "official" information on the language's status in Haryana and Chandigarh. Anyone know much about this? Sukh | ਸੁਖ | [[User talk:SukhTalk 16:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC) ]] 16:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikimania 2007

Do you want Wikimania 2007 to be held in India? We can bid for it on Meta:Wikimania 2007. --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 14:45, 4 August 2006 (UTC)


Regents of India

I have created thiis category Category:Regents of India .Can you please populate it with related articles if any in your knowledge .Thanks Shyamsunder 10:30, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

AFD

Please have a say at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hindu politics. In my opinion the entire point of the article is to push the POV that the Hindutva currents equals 'Hindu politics'. On the associated template I have suggested rewording 'Hindu politics' to 'Hindu nationalism', a more fitting description. --Soman 09:31, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Jimbo in India!

Jimbo Wales would be in Bangalore sometime next month - he has shown interest in Indian wikipedians' meet up. I'm travelling right now and have minimum access to net - shd be back to regular net access around 18th. Meanwhile, it'd be great if ppl. can come ahead with ideas to take this forward. Feel free!! and continue the discussion below! --Gurubrahma 13:29, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Hello, is no one interested or no one knows who Jimbo is? ;) --Gurubrahma 16:32, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
How did you conclude so? ;) Check out #Look who's coming.... Image:Tongue.png -- Sundar \talk \contribs 16:36, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Hooo ees thees Jeembo Walees? *scratches someone else's beard* --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 04:15, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Unlike in the previous discussion, in this thread, the discussion is about Jimbo showing interest. This happened at the recently concluded wikimania conference where he expressed such interest to Nichalp and me - he is looking at Bangalore as a venue. If there is sufficient interest we can probly even bid for next year's wikimania. So, think aloud and be bold. --Gurubrahma 15:51, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Oh, didn't read it properly. Did you guys attend the wikimania conference? Nice. I'd like to have a meeting in Bangalore. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 11:49, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
A wiki-meet up sounds good. But first we need to confirm if there would be participants. It wouldnt look good if just four or five of us turn up.-- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK12:30, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Wow. Did you meet Him at Wikimania? That must have been a great experience. Deepu is right. We need to confirm participation. Maybe some people from this part of Asia would be interested too. Places like Singapore and Malaysia with direct flight to Bangalore. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 12:36, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Yes, we were at wikimania :) =Nichalp «Talk»= 14:41, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Write a brief note in a subpage with possible dates. Let people confirm participation there. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 12:40, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Tamil Nadu

Hi y'all - somebody needs to develop this portal now or else it will go for deletion. Rama's arrow 14:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying. I've created a skeleton from Portal:Kerala and added some flesh. It looks like News can't be regularly updated. Can someone replace that section with a more static section ? Also, a few more templates need to be inked blue. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 07:14, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Requesting change of Template:India states

Ive created a new states/ut map and have modified the numbering. In the current setup the states are numbered according to the alphabetical order, but this holds true only for Roman languages, it would be more appropriate to do the numbering based on the position of the states. This way it is easier to look up a state in the list on the map and vice versa. Comments? - PlaneMad|YakYak 17:26, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I like it. But, what's the no-man's land painted white in Kashmir ? Also, I guess, the pseudo-alphabetical order in non-romanised scripts is something that we may have to live with. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 07:19, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Thats Siachen, should i make it a part of Indian territory :P PlaneMad|YakYak 12:59, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
I bet you would if you could. ;) -- Sundar \talk \contribs 13:05, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
To change or not to change the template? no response from others? PlaneMad|YakYak 17:09, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Technically speaking the boundary in Siachen is undefined unlike the LoC. The two countries maintain their status quo over the extent of the glacier held by each army. =Nichalp «Talk»= 11:54, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

disputes

If anybody wants to have a look at dispute resolution, there is a big argument on my talk page involving Holywarrior, Bakasuprman and BhaiSaab. Also it seems that Haphar and Subhash_bose are engaged in more debate again. There is an RFC - Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Bakasuprman up and running - it had gotten quite longwinded, and anybody who wants to keep a check to see if I haven't lost the plot or might want to relieve of this unenviable task are welcome, since I have spent about7 hours in the last two days reading up on all these complaints. Also, could people take a look at Talk:Californian Hindu textbook controversy because there is a lot of religious argument there about persecutions in history, etc, which are quite inflammatory, from adherents of a varieuty of religions. Thanks, Blnguyen | rant-line 06:19, 9 August 2006 (UTC).

Make Ganeshbot more useful

Please check this! -- Sundar \talk \contribs 08:07, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

82.0.153.165

Please watch out for this guy -- he's been pushing an anti-India POV into various articles for the past two days. -- ran (talk) 13:52, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

been following him... --hydkat 07:38, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Plz read this --hydkat 07:42, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

afd

Have a say at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dr. Syamaprasad Jana Jagaran Manch. --Soman 15:08, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Indian Standard Time

Suggestions needed for the expansion of Indian Standard Time. =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:01, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestions, I've listed it on FAC. =Nichalp «Talk»= 19:02, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

India Chapter - Is it on?

Do we have an active India Chapter of Wikipedia (Wikimedia project)
If yes - who is who of that project?

I came to see a link about Wikimedia India Chapter - but is it on?

Like other chapters worldwide?

No, India does not have a chapter as of now. User:HPN has been interested in creating an India chapter. You may try and contact him. =Nichalp «Talk»= 13:31, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Ankur (film)

If you have seen Ankur, please consider contributing content related to it on this article. I have created this article and am constantly trying to improve it, but few others participate in editing this article. Also, please participate in the discussion page. Thank you! --Kuaichik 03:09, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Minor problem at INCOTW

Please have a say here. I hope the old-timers of INCOTW have a look too. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 14:38, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Happy Independence Day

India is Great       0

I wish all Indian Wikipedians a very happy Independence Day. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:51, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Jimbo's visit - If 5 people sign up...

To continue from the above discussion about Jimbo's impending trip to India. See this. I found a link to that from his talk page. So it seems that he is ready to meet if 5 people sign up there. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 19:25, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

To add - this trip is on the 24th of this month to Delhi. There is still no information other than what Gurubrahma has told us about the trip to Bangalore. So is the meetup going to happen at Delhi or Bangalore (or both the places)? - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 06:51, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
i am willing to sign for delhi trip.nids 10:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

These are the Bangalore dates: [2]. Richard Stallman will be in Bangalore too at the IIM, but I'm not sure when. =Nichalp «Talk»= 14:40, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Just two peoples have signed up on the link till now. Please, more people should come forward. Atleast the ones who live in delhi.nids 06:19, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm in for a Bangalore meetup on someday between September 28-30. Any more hands up? -- Sundar \talk \contribs 09:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

10% chance of me being there. I have to come there some weekend to meet a friend but I am too lazy to plan and do anything properly :-/ Tintin (talk) 09:38, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
I can't make any of the above. Sorry. -- Samir धर्म 09:40, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
20% chance of me making it to B'lore. -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK10:17, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
One hand here for Bangalore and maybe I can lift a hand for Prashanthns Shyamal 12:23, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
I can pull in more and I might just perhaps help with the possibility of a venue at the Indian Institute of Science. Shyamal 12:28, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Can I lift both my hands!! THanks Shyamal . Count me in. Prashanthns 08:49, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Is there anyone for delhi???nids 14:25, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
I've already signed up, but can't find any more. --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 16:12, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
I am worried that if five people dont turn up, his visit may be cancelled.nids 09:11, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
added myself for delhi meet -- Lost(talk) 09:33, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
If anybody gets the information for venue and timings of wikimania in delhi (if it is held??), please leave a message.nids 19:09, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Jimbo has replied stating that there's practically no open slot during his Bangalore trip outside of InfoVision 2006 that he's addressing. The conference organiser kinda exhorted us to attend the meet and chat with Jimbo there. However, I find the registration fee[3] very high. Let's try asking for a Wikipedians' discount. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 09:21, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Unless there is going to be a very generous discount, I dont think anybody's going to turn up, lol. -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK09:45, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Chennai suburban railway tags

The Mumbai suburban railway articles such as Churchgate have tags that inform the reader which is the next and previous station on the line, the stop number, and the distance. You can see these at the bottom of the articles. But the Chennai suburban railway articles such as Basin Bridge do not have this. Do any such tags exist for the purpose, or do I need to create them? The Silent Contributor 08:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Silent Contributor. I don't think those templates exist for Chennai suburban railway. We'd be glad if you could create them along the lines of {{Mumbai - Suburban Railway,Western}}. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 09:14, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Just created Template:Chennai_-_Suburban_Railway,South . Typos to be corrected, data from southern railway website. -- PlaneMad|YakYak 10:03, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
He he... you beat me to it. See this. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 10:12, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanx, Sundar, Planemad and Aksi_great!! Btw, how do u create templates on Wikipedia? I searched, but didn't get the page. The Silent Contributor 10:24, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Check out Help:Template or ping people in this category. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 10:28, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Updated:

Typos to be corrected, data from southern railway website [4] . Just realised, forgot to change the categories to Chennai -- PlaneMad|YakYak 10:31, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Error in Malayalam text

The Malayalam text on Commons:Image:Phrase sanskrit.png is wrong. The image has a short "i" (gi) at the begining of the third word. It should actually be a long "ī" (gī). Could someone who has a Malayalam font and an image editor which supports Unicode please fix it. -- Arvind 16:46, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Does this look correct? -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK14:04, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
That's exactly as it should be, thanks. Could you please upload it over the original? -- Arvind 20:34, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Done. I couldnt do that earlier 'coz my commons account was too fresh. -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK09:39, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Initials

It seems that there is no official standard on how initials should be placed in the title of the articles in Indian context. Can you please comment here ( Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(Indic)#Proposal_on_Indian_names ) on its standardization. Tintin (talk) 11:59, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Our PM

Can someone have a look at Manmohan Singh? There appears to be an edit war going there and I don't have the time right now to work on that. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 06:20, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I have looked at the article. some points raised by the user are correct. The article has too many POV phrases which are overlooked at first glance due to misleading references. For example the first sentence which say "Manmohan...architect of modern India" with a BBC reference. But checking up with the reference shows that the statement is "...architect of economic reforms". I would request you all to have a look at the article and make suggestions on the talk page so that a consensus can be reached within a day or two and get the article unprotected. There is a minor blame-game going on at the talk page too. I am trying to mediate. More helping hands are welcome. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 08:08, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
To clarify, I didn't say that the user alleging fancruft was wrong or the other person was wrong. Thanks for your effort, Aksi. I'm totally tied up until Tuesday, so I can't help. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 08:48, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Honorifics

I'd like people to start thinking about honorifics and common names as they're used in India with a view to eventually altering the WP manual of style. In particular, in the past I have had much trouble with people who object to Gandhi being called Gandhiji or Mahatma, purely because it conflicts with the MoS. Also, this means that common styles such as Pandit Nehru or Dr. Rajendra Prasad are not permissible. I think this is particularly inaccurate in our political culture. Someone once went through the Indira Gandhi article changing every instance of 'Mrs. Gandhi', a phrase still (?) uniquely hers, to 'Indira', citing the MoS. ('Gandhi' was deemed confusing.) This is possibly a place where WP:BIAS plays in, and people should mentally prepare for disagreements ahead. Hornplease 08:22, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I would appreciate if any changes/reversions are temporarily suspended till a consensus is reached here. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 08:39, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
A good place for this discussion would be at Wikipedia:Naming Conventions (Indic). We've slowly been developing guidelines for such issues there. The section on honorifics needs expansion. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 22:40, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

copied from the notice board header Do not refer to Indian personalities by their honourary titles. Article 18 of the Indian Constitution bans the usage of titles. -- Lost(talk) 18:52, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Collaboration Dashboard

Hi! Please check the collaboration dashboard for the latest featured delistings (2)=Nichalp «Talk»= 08:03, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Tarlupadu

Someone please cleanup this article. It has no context, and is unintelligible. --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 16:47, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Indian Portal updates

I have found that very few people take interest in Portal:India's internal activities like Selected article/picture candidates. Many a times, there is hardly one vote in addition to the nominator. To improve the situation, Deepu suggested that we add a few lines to {{India collaborations}}, which will carry updates of the nominations made in the portal. I wanted everybody's opinion on it before it is implemented.

I have also made some decisions regarding the portal. Till a few days back, the news section of the portal only featured national-importance and high-impact news. This resulted in only a couple of news for the whole month. I have started including more daily news that are important, though not in the long run. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 10:36, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, add one space for the India portal in the India collaborations template. Notice board is much more visted than the selected article/pic candidates etc.--Dwaipayan (talk) 12:47, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Actually, add one space each for Selected article candidates, selected pic candidates, and any other candidates there are. --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 16:35, 20 August 2006 (UTC)