Talk:Norwegian Defence Force

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[edit] Merging

Definetely should - as of now, it fails to give the whole picture, at the same time at the Norwegian defence forces are so small that more than one article is not practical - better coverage in one article is my recommendation Endrelunde 12:28, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Agree--jrleighton 11:59, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
NOTE: I have also added recommodations that all four existing pages on the Norwegian military, army, air force, navy and home guard are added into this page. I imagine this new page to include the main sections of each of the existing ones, while putting listings, such as listings of vessels, units and ranks in special pages that would be linked. This would improve coherence in the text, and, as mentioned, give a much better impression of the whole of the defence force. Endrelunde 12:28, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Oppose. This is against precedent, and the solution is to merely expand the articles. There's so much history from the past couple hundred years, specifically under World War II. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 00:46, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Oppose. This is against precedent. Each branch should have their own page. A merger will only result in a split later on when each section gets too big.Inge 14:45, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

As it is now, the pages of the seperate branches are very small. I still propose a single page for the Norwegian Defence Force, and then seperate pages for listings og ranks, ships and units (which now comprises the majority of the pages!) and more detailed history.Endrelunde 13:57, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Agree with Endrelunde.--jrleighton 14:00, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
I still don't agree. It is better to keep each article and expand them.Inge 17:10, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
Right. Merging is the cop-out path here. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 14:21, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
There is no way we reached a consensus here! —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 03:17, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Consistency

Just about every single defense force article on Wikipedia is split up according to its' branches - no matter how small each article may be. The suggestion is moot as Wikipedia guidelines encourage consistency and to follow the manual of style. Joffeloff 17:49, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Indeed. What we have here are people making a suggestion, and receiving at least as may negatory responses as they did positive responses, and still acting on it. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 18:16, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

I have not acted on anything, as I do see the dispute involved. I still believe that one main article would be preferable, but I will bow to the precedent, and withdraw the suggestion. Instead I suggest that those of us that believe in the virtue of one article continue to develop the Norwegian Defence Force article, while leaving the existing pages on the seperate branches untouched. Hopefully this will make everyone happy.

Endrelunde 18:41, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The list of Army Structure is wrong.

The Norwegian Army has no longer Brigades. After 2008 will all units in the norwegian army only be battalions. The Norwegian Army has no langer Brigades or Divisions, only battalions.

Well, this month's issue of RAIDS, a French language military review, dedicates an article to Norway's military. Here are some scans, with translations, of the tables:
Norwegian Army - according to the article, the 6th reserve brigade shall be dismantled under the reform plan. ISTAR stands for "Intelligence, Surveillance, Target Acquisition and Reconnaissance".
Norwegian Air Force
In both cases, sorry for the bad quality of images, but I am not really skilled in using skanners and Photoshop. There is also a table of the Navy, but it says that the near entirety of the Navy is regrouped at Bergen and that a Battalion of "Rangers" is under the Navy command. The Coast Guard is said to have 21 flotillas (based at Harstad and Haakonsvern) and a battalion of "Coastal Rangers".Russoswiss 15:36, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] equipment

what about listing what weapons and equipment the norwegian army uses?

Hm. I think that would belong on the page about the army (or battalions) not on the Defence Force pages. --GunnarRene 03:37, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Iceland

I guess this might be worth mentioning when more information surfaces: http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1753031.ece - BsL 00:09, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NDF force size

Instead of the edit warring going on, it might be best to see – and cite – what the NDF's own website says its force levels are. [1] Askari Mark (Talk) 17:39, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rename it

"Norwegian defence force" should be renamed either "Norwegian armed forces" or "military of Norway". This is the norm for every other military articles on Wikipedia, and this should be no exception. 30. October 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wingsforsheeba (talkcontribs) 04:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)