Talk:Northport, New York
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[edit] Citation Style
Slight consensus is to convert citation styles from Footnote3 to Inline. To save space I've removed the lengthy chat but it's here if you still want to see it. Fife Club 17:24, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Article semi protection
I've semi-protected the article until 30 November 2007, because Russellmba appeared to be using several IP addresses in a disruptive manner. Addhoc 18:09, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Notable residents
I removed Kerouac. The other two folks with the fact tags should be removed as well it seems. How about just sticking to souceable additions to this article? Just a thought :) Cheers! --Tom 20:05, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- I undid your edit since Kerouac did live in Northport and there are numerous articles relating to Kerouac living in my hometown of Northport. Here is a link that proves it and I would site it in the article but I have absolutely no idea how to do that.http://www.beatmuseum.org/kerouac/jackkerouac.html
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- Thanks for locating that User:Noneforall. I'll add that citation to the article later tonight when I have more time.
I've also located a reference to Mariah Carey (I'm surprised I found anything) so I'll add that tonight too.But with all the edit wars going on lately I want to ask consensus on Billy Joel... I've searched extensively and can't find any reputable sources that Billy Joel lived in Northport. However I did find an interview with Billy Joel's mother that she frequently took him to Northport as a boy. So does Billy Joel get totally nixed from the article or is it somehow reworded that he frequented Northport (which still doesn't make him a resident to fit in this section)? --Fife Club 22:07, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for locating that User:Noneforall. I'll add that citation to the article later tonight when I have more time.
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- I don't think Billy Joel ever lived in Northport. All I'm sure of is that he lived somewhere in Nassau County on Long Island. Being a Northport native, I have never heard of him living in Northport unlike how it is a known fact that Jack Kerouac lived here, but I guess I could be wrong. For the time being I'm going to delete the Billy Joel but just undo my edit if you can find any new info. -User:Noneforall
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- I'm okay with deleting both Billy Joel and Mariah Carey. I thought I found a Mariah Carey reference but I was mistaken. All I can find is Harborsfield and Centerport. As for Billy Joel, here's the article I found about his mother Rosalind Joel being a regular at The Sea Shanty and taking Billy there as a kid. However that doesn't make him a resident, nor does it back up that he ever lived in The Pit. All other references are the usual suspects: Hicksville, Cold Spring Harbor, and the Hamptons. I'd say both the Joel and Carey facts are just hearsay and I'd be okay with removing both until sources can be found. We could probably find sources for everybody else if needed but they don't seem to be contested. (The bigger issue with some others are their level of notability.) --Fife Club 04:05, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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For Vance Brescia I removed the link to the band "The Mosquitos" because it is a differnt band than his early 80's garage band that spawned The Monkee's 1987 hit "That Was Then, This Is Now". And I added his current job with Herman's Hermits Starring Peter Noone. And as a lifelong resident of Northport (class of 1983) I agree that Billy Joel never lived there, Mariah Carey is from neighboring Greenlawn, and Jack Kerouac did live in Northport with his mother on Judy Ann Court in the early 1960's. - Tom 7 May 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.56.113.83 (talk) 15:16, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Danny Masterson and his brother should be removed as he was born in Albertson, NY (also on Long Island) and went to the Garden City school system until dropping out in 10th grade. His Wikipedia page even states his origins in Albertson. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.45.178.146 (talk) 05:06, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- I disagree. The Masterson brothers should not be removed as this is not a list of people who were born in Northport but just of people who were residents at some time. --Fife Club (talk) 01:39, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] "Interesting Facts" section
I think it's time to start folding this miscellaneous information elsewhere into the article, per Wikipedia:Trivia sections. I'll start doing it now, but some of it may require significant reorganization, so it will probably be more of a long term goal. Mycroft7 22:12, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] No Official Website
This website lists villageofnorthport.com as the official village website, but Northport government does not have any official website. villageofnorthport.com is a real estate website and therefore considered spam by Wikipedia and prohibited. Site is registered and hosted by internetconceptsunlimited.com but on behalf of client which is distinctivepropertiesofnorthport.com. This fact is well hidden (most likely deliberately) but evident in the legal fine print when you click on the prominently displayed Real Estate link. This site contains no governement information such as elected officials, their "History & Facts" section just links to this Wikipedia article, and no official website would ever send 100% of real estate business to one agent without at least disclosing that they are not affiliated with that business (the Village of Northport isn't in the real estate business, yet this site will accept your personal info to sell you a house). I am removing villageofnorthport.com from the article, and if nobody objects, replacing it with the more official Chamber of Commerce website. --Fife Club (talk) 22:37, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yea I agree, the official Chamber of Commerce website is the most official website for the town since there is no website for the town government. I also added another link to the Times of Northport to get up to date news. I would also add a link to the The Observer but that newspaper doesn't seem to have a website. -Noneforall (talk) 01:45, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Edits by Jansipowitz
I assume recent edits by Jansipowitz were in good faith but I had to revert each for the following reasons.
1) Billy Joel - Please see previous discussions above. There's been disagreement about Billy Joel and we've already come to the consensus decision that there's no proof Billy Joel ever lived in Northport. If you do have a credible source to cite please let us know.
2) The Sbarro Family - Definitely notable, but they live in Asharoken, not Northport. (If you decide to add it to that article, extra info about the company's founding date, founding location, and headquarters should be left out because they aren't relevant to the article about the town of Asharoken.)
3) Alex DiLorenzo III - This one definitely needs more info. You just added DiLorenzo as a notable resident of Asharoken too (which I removed for the same reason). So which town did he live in? Most sources say he lived in Manhattan, but a citation source to one town or the other would solve this one. --Fife Club (talk) 05:20, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
- I think Billy Joel did once live in my town. Many people talk about him being from Northport but I can't find anything on the internet to back this up except a local history page on Northport's School District website created by a fellow student. http://northport.k12.ny.us/district/localhistory.htm
- Should Billy Joel be added? Noneforall (talk) 21:51, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
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- I used to live there too and I was always told Billy Joel lived in the Pit too. I think I'm the one who added it the first time. But at this point it could just be urban legend, who knows. But because it's so uncertain it shouldn't be listed without trustworthy references. We may eventually need to source-cite all notable refs (it may be a WP rule we're not aware of). As for that Northport High School page, unfortunately that author plagiarized much of their content directly from this and a few other Wikipedia articles (I recognize my own writing) so they said Billy Joel lived in Northport only because this article previously had Billy Joel (and Mariah Carey) incorrectly listed. --Fife Club (talk) 00:21, 19 December 2007 (UTC)