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    [edit] Pictures

    Please do not remove the pictures. Each picture is taken from the Northeastern University website and can be found there.


    Can someone please put up new pictures. This page used to have a number of pictures which were removed.


    On the to-do list the following is noted:

    Images: Our images are being removed one by one because nearly all are copywritten. Please note copywright laws in regard to using NU's images on this page, and feel free to take pictures around campus and add them where appropriate to the article.

    I would like to point out that NUPR provides a media kit of sorts which does not have any copyright attached to it (as far as I can tell). Even if these (or other NU images for that matter) are copyrighted, certainly some of them are protected under fair use. Just because something is copyrighted does not mean it cannot be used here--certainly there are fair use criteria set forth by US code which allow for the educational use of images. While Wikipedia sets a somewhat higher standard in its guidelines, I think we would be safe using a few images that we would not otherwise be able to have (e.g. a picture of President Aoun). Bjs1234 19:36, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

    Under some circumstances and to a limited degree, images can be used by educational institutions through fair use. Wikipedia isn't an educational institution. The current site-wide consensus is to be especially chary of the copyright laws, and I'm afraid the answer to anyone's desire to include more pictures is (a) use public domain ones; (b) post pictures you've taken yourself; or (c) secure proof that the copyright holder of any images has released all rights.  RGTraynor  19:51, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Streamling Sections

    While I originally liked the idea of the information for the West Villages (Which isn't yet completed) and having information and history about each, I'm beginning to think the tables look out of place both on the page and on Wikipedia. Does anyone have any suggestions or technical knowledge that could include this information in a more standard/streamlined method? I would eventually like to have information on each part of the residential campus and the history of, but I think the way it's setup now is counter-productive. Lordwow 21:47, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

    I would agree that this information needs to be broken out. Maybe we need a new page on NU dorms and buildings. This would also require us to create an NU category as well. --Bhaggs 17:01, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
    I've created a category to organize pages about NU. This might allow us to move information into additional pages. Lordlow why not move the dorm information into a separate page for NU housing. On the main NU page we can give a brief overview of the student housing buildings and relegate the more in depth information to the new page. --Bhaggs 00:50, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

    [edit] Some factoids to add

    This page has got some good factoids at the bottom of the page we should add. --Bhaggs 14:31, 15 September 2005 (UTC)


    [edit] NU College Democrats

    Reverted to temporarily remove the following entered by User:Yinka36 and edited by others since:

    [edit] Student Organizations

    Northeastern University College Democrats

    The Northeastern University College Democrats are an on campus political group representing the Democratic student population within the Northeastern University Community. As a group the NU College Democrats seek to provide a discussion of democratic ideas and core issues on campus. In this discussion of Democratic ideas the group brings in speakers, especially local officials and candidates to discuss the important political issues confronting Northeastern University students both locally and nationally. In November, 2005 the group hosted Ambassador Joseph Wilson.

    In addition to speakers the group also works actively to host events to raise political awareness on campus such as debates. Also, the group runs the Northeastern University College Democrats blog at nudemocrats.blogspot.com. Through these activities the group seeks to build a stronger democratic party in the future and better ideas to serve all Americans.

    on the following grounds:

    • Creating a section called "Student Organizations" and then only mentioning one such group introduces a bias. There are many, many numerous student organizations on campus which are more notable than NUCD, including (from my time there) NBSA, LASO, CUP, SGA, RSA, Hillel, NUBILAGA, NUHOC, SEA, EWB, etc., etc. Not to mention of course the NU College Republicans.
    • There is too much content for one organization. To include other organizations with the same amount of content, given the number of notable organizations, would make the article prohibitively large. Much of it is a no-brainer -- the activities listed the sorts of things any good student organization does, whether they be NUCD or NBSA or CUP or anyone else. Furthermore this is an article about NU, not about NUCD. NU is the focus.
    • The content clearly is written to promote and showcase the organization, and this bends WP:NPOV and violates WP:NOT.

    - Keith D. Tyler 18:22, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Formatting

    I have noticed the formatting on this page getting more and more busy. There are a lot of pictures simply thrown onto the page with little formatting or thoughtful placement. Can we please clean the formatting up and make this article easy to look at and read?

    Epstein.Mark 16:51, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

    - I've removed the images I would consider haphazardly placed. I'm going to be looking at the image sizes next and standardizing them compared to other university pages.

    [edit] Co-Op

    I moved the following out of the intro:

    The co-op pay disparity is greatest in the science related fields including engineering where the co-op student usually fullfills a technician postion directly aiding one or more technical employees, as opposed to more typical liberal arts majors which generally take up lesser skilled clerk type postions normally filled by high school graduates or interns in those companys not participating as a partner in co-operative education initiative. Generally, partnership companys reserve a single year round slot for such a role which is filled in alternate terms (a quarterly system) by an analogous student in the other form.

    I think this belongs in a Co-Op Section which I've added to the to-do list.

    Lordwow 16:51, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Famous Alumni

    Ok guys, I guess someone has to say it, "Famous Alumni," They should probably be... well... famous. I removed quite a few today. Here was my criteria:

    • If someone has a Wikipedia Page, then they're considered famous, unless Wikipedia questions their notability and removes the page.
    • If someone doesn't have a Wikipedia Page, I performed a google search, if it was clear who the person was and is a sucessful alumni of Northeastern, they're staying pending a new page creation for them.
    • If someone is a 2005 grad of Northeastern with their own webpage and no contribution to society, they're gone. Sorry guys, as much as I love to do google searches about yourself, don't put your name on the page... until you're actually famous/notable.

    That being said, Marino is obviously the businessman who helped start EMC_Corporation (and has our athletic center named after him), the other three all appear to be well-known people inside the music industry, and were featured in either the Boston Globe or NU Magazine. I would be happy to hear any thoughts you guys have on this. Lordwow 10:54, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

    The famous alumni/professors page could benefit from a snippet each about why they're famous and notable. User:Aphrodite7717

    [edit] Husky vs. Sled Dog

    The Husky link goes to sled dog but a Husky entry also exists. The terms appear to be very close but not identical. Ubermonkey 18:28, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

    I've updated the link to go directly to Husky. I was unable to find that page for some reason (or perhaps it was merged?) when I originally added the link. Thanks! Lordwow 05:35, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] To Do

    Can we get an administrator/experienced wiki-user to clean this site up? I agree that it is disorganized, but it should be fixed soon. July 20, 2006.

    I agree, it seems to me the first step is to get rid of the useless major/minor/double major list. Also, something need to be done the famous alumni list. Most of them cannot even be counted to be C- celebrities, for example, lieberman's wife... I wouldn't mind to put Laura Bush's like, (say Lauren Bush) in this page, but Lieberman's second wife? come on... --Stephenzhu 15:11, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

    I will remove the major/minor/double major list if nobody is defending them. --Stephenzhu 21:32, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

    The removal of the major/minor/double major list is clearly relevant and important information for this page. Do not remove the list or it will be reverted by myself and other users and administrators. Also, any conduct by any individual that appears to be a personal attack or a blatant attempt to inappropriately alter a wikipage for any reason, including personal bias, should be reported to administrators. 12:00 28 July 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Copyright Status of a Picture

    Howdy all! The image at: Image:Welcometoneu.jpg just so happens to be absent of any copyright info. I've tracked down the source [1], but being unfamiliar with what copyright might accompany it, I have not mentioned the copyright. If someone could supply copyright information, we can bring the image back into the article. Thanks! -- CABHAN TALK CONTRIBS 13:27, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

    I'm fairly sure this image is copywritten, and therefore can't be used. A few of the other images were taken from neu.edu and were removed. Lordwow 03:06, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Southern Campus

    I've started the Southern Campus section. There's a ton of conflicting information online about the opening dates of the Davenport/780 buildings, and the only one I can recall is Coventry's and the Squashbuster's opening in 2003. If anyone has anything else to add to this section (or a picture) that'd be great.

    The next area of campus I'll be doing is probably going to be the Freshman Quad area (Stetson/Speare/White). It'll probably be necessary to split the campus section off at some point, so we should probably discuss if we should seperate out just the residence halls, or the whole campus section.

    How about some pics of campus before you do that? We need more pics.


    There are several buildings that have been opened on campus in the past few years that should be included in the campus description - Alumni Center (2006), Behrakis Health Sciences Center (2002), Egan Research Center (1996), Marino Recreation Center (1996), and Shillman Hall (1995). —Preceding unsigned comment added by AnnC128 (talkcontribs) 19:05, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] West Village F Completion?

    Hey all. I note that West Village F is currently listed as "under construction" in the article. While it's true that the basement is still being finished, based on the fact that I'm currently living in it, I'm fairly sure it's quite completed. Shall we move it into "completed", or would the editors prefer to wait until the building's basement is finished? -- CABHAN TALK CONTRIBS 22:36, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

    I am currently living off-campus during co-op (class of 2007), but I lived in West Village E during the spring, and C in the summer semesters, and couldn't wait to see the new building. About 2 weeks ago, I walked over to campus (I'm working at a company on Tremont Street, so it was a short walk) and went through the academic-side of the building (which doesn't require a swipe card to get into) and I can say for sure that it is very done, and probably the nicest of all the WV buildings. -- Ubergenius 19:16, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Requested move

    Northeastern University, BostonNortheastern University — Many articles intended to be linked to this article actually link to Northeastern University which is now a double redirect for Northeastern University (disambiguation). There is only one Northeastern University so a disambiguation page without the word "disambiguation" included in the title is unnecessary. Crashintome4196 12:32, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Survey

    Add  # '''Support'''  or  # '''Oppose'''  on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~. Please remember that this survey is not a vote, and please provide an explanation for your recommendation.

    [edit] Survey - in support of the move

    1. Weak support as probable primary usage in English. If someone can show relatively significant English usage for Northeastern University (Liaoning), I will reconsider. It appears to often use the unidiomatic Northeast University; it should be included in the dab header anyway. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:08, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
    2. Support no need for disambiguation here. --Yath 22:45, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
    3. Strong Support first off, Northeastern University most commonly refers to the one in Boston. It was founded almost 40 years before the one in china. And the other "northeasterns" in the US are 'Northeastern State'. Black Harry 13:13, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Survey - in opposition to the move

    1. Oppose As you can see from the disambig page, there is a Northeastern University in China. — oo64eva (Alex) (U | T | C) @ 08:36, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Discussion

    Add any additional comments:

    I would be tempted to support the move since almost all of the entries on the DAb page are not "Northeastern University." However, there is a second Northeastern University (Liaoning), which, when allowing for geographical bias, is an important institution. —  AjaxSmack  19:44, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

    It's not geographical bias; it's linguistic bias. The Chinese Wikipedia should choose differently. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:12, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
    I meant geographical bias but call it linguistic if you will. The two schools are roughly the same size but institutions in English speaking countries would naturally assume greater relative importance. I should have said "there is a second Northeastern University (Liaoning), which, even when allowing for geographical bias, is still an important institution because of its prominence in China." —  AjaxSmack  04:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

    And even if the move is not made, the correct title would be Northeastern University (Boston). —  AjaxSmack  20:00, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

    I am rejecting the move. 2 votes is not a consensus. And also, there are 2 Northeastern Universities. One in the US and one in China. Disam page is needed. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 09:27, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

    I think the move is the proper. Northeastern University should link directly to this page.

    [edit] Northeastern University Huskies

    Following similar articles, I've started this one for the Huskies' athletic teams. I urge interested editors to go over and expand the heck out of it. RGTraynor 20:03, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Co-op Description in Intro

    Currently, the introduction reads:

    "Northeastern is perhaps best known for its distinctive "co-op" program, which encourages students to alternate semesters of study with periods of paid work with co-operative partners in business and industry."

    I suggest that we change "paid work" to "full-time work" or something equivalent, since many majors in the CAS work unpaid co-ops, and thus this statement can be misleading. Lordwow 13:42, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Alumni list out of hand

    Please move the bulk of the alumni into a new article. The list currently included in this article is way, way too long. --ElKevbo 02:13, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

    Agreed, it looks like someone cut out the redlinks. I think it's pretty clear there were a ton of NN people on there, and I think it's more sizable now. Lordwow 12:47, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
    It's better but still much too long, IMHO. --ElKevbo 03:02, 2 August 2007 (UTC)


    [edit] Notable Faculty

    Hey guys,

    Good work on the edits. I propose that we move the Notable Faculty list to the "Faculty" section. FYI, I am a Northeastern alum. Keep up the good work. --Sorensen 13:51, 10 November 2007 (UTC) Sorensen

    [edit] Fair use rationale for Image:NEUBanner.gif

    Image:NEUBanner.gif is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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    If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

    BetacommandBot (talk) 22:48, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] Shawn Fanning Alumni?

    Shawn Fanning never graduated from Northeastern, in fact he left after his first semester of freshman year, should his name still be listed here? Kevinebaugh (talk) 23:22, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

    Alumni means "former students", not just graduates. [2] So, yes. - Keith D. Tyler 06:48, 28 January 2008 (UTC)