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  • requires more information about the connection at East India and West India Docks (? see my note below Peter Shearan 14:14, 20 August 2006 (UTC)) .
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Para 3 says 1980. Surely this is wrong. Should it be 1890, or 1880?

Probably 1800's. However Lowe's "British Steam Locomotive Builders" and a signalling website both suggest 1909. Chevin 15:15, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Junctions at the eastern end of the Railway

In connection with the to-do list above: there was no connection at the two docks, which were quite separate from each other. The layout in this area was very complicated, since there were many branches leading to goods depots owned by some half dozen companies. One line (GE-owned) did lead to the East India Docks goods depot; the GER line down to North Greenwich served the West India Docks. Directly from the NLR were lines leading to the other goods depots, some of which served different parts of the West India Docks. Many were coal depots: London needed a lot of coal!Peter Shearan 14:36, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

According to the map on page 6 of "All stations to Poplar" the following junctions existed at some point.

1. Between Homerton and Victoria Park the was a junction with a branch to Stratford Low Level (the map shows Victoria Par Station on both lines) 2. A three way junction just south of Bow Station lines from west to east:

a) to Stapney East and Fenchurch Street (which was the original terminus before4 the Broad Street "Happy Afterthought" was built).
b) the NLR to Poplar.
c) To the LTS Eastbound (some services did run to Southend between the wars apparently)

3. South of Poplar Station a three way junction. Branches from west to east.

a) to West India Docks goods station.
b) to a junction with the east bound London - Blackwall.
c) to Poplar Docks (Goods)

Tantalisingly the line is shown as open for goods traffic with the exceptions of 2 (a) and (c) and 3 (b). A service to to Stratford (from Camden Road?) via Kingsland is about to start. Wilmot1 11:51, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Extension to Richmond

The article currently states that the line was extended to Richmond in 1858 via a connecting London and South Western Railway branch. The L&SWR branch to Richmond via Hammersmith (now part of the District Line) did not open until 1869. Either the NLR got to Richmond before the L&SWR or it didn't get there until after the L&SWR was opened.

It also says that Kew Gardens and Gunnersbury station opened in 1877 although they opened in 1869 along with the L&SWR branch. 1877 is when the Metropolitan District Railway and Metropolitan Railways started to operate over the L&SWR tracks to Richmond. Details of the L&SWR dates can be found at Clive's Underground Line Guides - District Line, is there anywhere similar to check the NLR dates? DavidCane 22:02, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

The dates are confused because the first access to Richmond from the north was via the east curve at Kew Bridge and a short-lived curve (1860s?) at Barnes connecting the Hounslow and Richmond lines, some brickwork visible south of the Hounslow line and the road name Railway Side are traces of it. The curve became redundant when the direct line to Richmond was opened. Offhand I don't know when the Hammersmith line was built, possibly at the same time as the "cut-off". I'll try to find recorded details.--SilasW (talk) 19:44, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Old Ford Station

This station was between Victoria Park and Bow, it opened on 1st July 1867 and only closed when the Broad Street - Poplar branch line closed. (Source "All Stations to Poplar" JE Connor, 1980)Wilmot1 11:20, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stock

"In 1956 the workshop was repaired diesel-electric..." needs an edit to make the paragraph understandable.SilasW 14:37, 21 May 2007 (UTC)