Talk:North Hills, Los Angeles, California

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[edit] Comment

I've noticed substantial changes in this article ; someone clearly wanted to blot out the negatives associated with the North Hills community. Perhaps the original article was not NPOV because it emphasized them overtly ; the changed article seems to deny entirely the well known problems with drug sales, prostitution, and gang activity that North Hills has become known for (and Sepulveda, to a somewhat lesser extent, was known for).

It's fair to mention positive aspects of North Hills, but completely leaving out its less positive aspects is clearly violating NPOV. And one other thing: generally in Los Angeles, being close to a freeway does not make a neighborhood desirable - it usually has just the opposite effect. This is not to say that there aren't desirable neighborhoods close to freeways, but freeway access is not the reason why they are desirable.

Also, why was the information about ethnic changes in North Hills left out? The old Sepulveda, which was overwhelmingly non-Latino white, suffered from the same exact problems as predominately Latino North Hills. The ethnic changes in the neighborhood were not the cause of those problems ; they may have been contributing factors in their exacerbation, but the problems existed before the ethnic changes in the early 1990s. I can say this having lived in Northridge in the 1980s, and having had members of my family owning property in what was then Sepulveda in the 1970s (right near where Nordhoff meets the 405).

This article should be better balanced. It certainly needs a correction, to emphasize both positive and negative aspects of the area. Prairie Dog

I think the article now reads like a real estate ad. The answer is to go out and find SOURCES that talk about the reality. LA Times, Daily News, Valley Beat, etc. There are plenty of papers covering the Valley - I'm sure you should be able to find respectabel sources. Cheers, -Willmcw 03:03, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)

I did find an LA Times story online that, while generally positive, did mention the neighborhood's negative aspects. http://www.latimes.com/news/local/valley/la-re-guide1feb01,1,4538259.story?coll=la-editions-valley. Prairie Dog

I edited the article to present both positive and negative aspects of North Hills. This removes the NPOV issue. Prairie Dog.

Thanks for doing that. Cheers, -Willmcw 06:10, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)

"The old Sepulveda, which was overwhelmingly non-Latino white, suffered from the same exact problems as predominately Latino North Hills."

No, it didn't. I lived in Sepulveda with my family right off of Woodley, and went to James Monroe High School. There was no crime back then. I lived there from the early 60's till 1976. My mother would even let me be outside in the front yard alone, playing with barbie dolls. There was zero crime then. It was a great neighborhood. Right next door to us lived a principal of a school, on the other side of us were people who worked at the university. My father was a salesman. And on Woodley, I had a friend whose father was a truck driver. That's the kind of neighborhood it was. It was diverse economically. BTW, Wendy Sperber (now dead actress) was someone I knew at Mayall School and we walked home together ALONE at 8 years of age. (FYI she was kind of snooty and mean, her dad was a producer). So no, it was not crime ridden then. Ruth E (talk) 08:06, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Someone who grew up in East Los Angeles or Boyle Heights would say the same thing about how their neighborhoods were not crime-ridden in the same era, even though compared to the rest of Los Angeles those neighborhoods were considered amongst the most crime ridden. They were merely less crime ridden than in later years, considering the escalation of gang activity in the 1980s. Problems of drug dealing and prostitution around Sepulveda and Nordhoff go back to the 1970s. It is undoubtable that such problems have increased in Los Angeles as a whole over the years, and Sepulveda might look idyllic compared to today's North Hills - but one could say the same about the East L.A. of that period looking idyllic in comparison to later years, or even the South Central of that period seeming idyllic in comparison to later years. 71.118.50.36 (talk) 02:40, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Photo request

I think it would help if this article had a photo Edward 14:06, 1 October 2006 (UTC)