Talk:North Community High School

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Good article North Community High School has been listed as one of the Social sciences and society good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can delist it, or ask for a reassessment.
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March 23, 2008 Good article nominee Listed
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Nice looking article. A good example to other schools. Victuallers (talk) 22:06, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


[edit] GA Review

GA review (see here for criteria)

There are a few problems here, but most of them should be pretty easily resolved.

  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
    The article looks fine, but I would be more happy if the lead were longer and covered some of the more controversial elements of the school. See WP:LEAD.
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
    There are several statement which need references, as tagged. I also think you need some referencing in the lead, which is totally unreferenced right now.
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
    Some more modern pictures, perhaps of interior or of sports would be nice, if possible, but if not it is understandable.
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:
I have added citations and expanded the lead with citations. Sorry about not having any recent photographs. Unfortunately I won't be able to get any modern photographs until around summertime. Is there anything else that needs to be done? Eóin (talk) 02:40, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
The only thing holding me back from passing it would be that the first paragraph of the lead still seems largely unreferenced and overall it feels like it lacks cohesiveness. SorryGuy  Talk  03:39, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
I added another citation to the lead. Do you feel the lead lacks cohesiveness or the entire article? Eóin (talk) 22:56, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
I was referring specifically to the lead, especially the second paragraph where statements seem to sort of thrown together. I also left citation need notices on the two statements which I feel need them. Anything referring to a reputation is an opinion and POV unless it is referenced, the comment about attempting to reduce a certain population could be considered controversial. SorryGuy  Talk  02:12, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

I can't reference any recent sources that say North is a tough school but here are two from 1988.

Once a school with a predominantly Jewish student body, North has been through many changes as the city and Northside neighborhoods changed. Located in what is now a mostly black neighborhood, it was once a nearly all black school. That changed in 1982 with the introduction of four magnet programs meant to draw students from throughout the city and nearby suburbs.
Beasley points with pride to the magnets, which last year had enrollments that were about 60 percent white and 40 percent minority. The school offers magnet programs in science, math and technology; visual and performing arts; advanced technical courses; and in broadcasting for KBEM radio.
North had a reputation as a tough school before the the magnets. Eight months ago, Beasley feared that it might acquire that reputation again.
Last Jan. 12, Pedro Ramos, a 17-year-old North High student, died of injuries he suffered when he was beaten in a school hallway by three other youths who did not attend the school.

—Tomson, Ellen (September 25, 1988), "PRINCIPAL WENT TO SCHOOL OF HARD KNOCKS//HERITAGE IS STRENGTH", Saint Paul Pioneer Press

North High, until a few years ago the blight of the Minneapolis school system

—New York Times

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So I have changed "The school has a reputation as a tough inner city school" to "The neighborhood that North is located in is known for high levels of poverty and crime."

As for lowering the school's minority enrollment would this sentence be better? "Desegregation efforts, such as magnet school programs, have attempted to attract students from throughout Minneapolis and nearby suburbs" I will attempt to rewrite the second paragraph of the lead today. -Eóin (talk) 19:17, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Rewrote the second paragraph to hopefully make it flow better. Eóin (talk) 21:27, 23 March 2008 (UTC)