Talk:North Buffalo, Buffalo, New York

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[edit] Name of this page

Can we please change the name of this page back to "North Buffalo, Buffalo, New York"? I do understand that it is a bit redundant, but this follows the convention set up by all of the other neighborhoods of Buffalo. Say "Allentown, Buffalo, New York" could not be simply "Allentown, New York" because that might be a name of an actual town in NY rather then just a section of Buffalo. South Buffalo also follows this convention as "South Buffalo, Buffalo, New York". It just makes sense if they all have the same name convention.

T.C. 03:14, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I use the style of WP:NC:CITY#General rules, which would be North Buffalo, New York. And this is a guideline. If anything, the other articles should be in this style as well. x42bn6 Talk 10:57, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Well I certainly cannot argue with your use of a defined style, however I'm not sure if this case is covered in this standard.

from the article:

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The canonical form for cities in the United States is City, State (the "comma convention"). Those cities that need additional disambiguation include their county or parish (for example Elgin, Lancaster County, South Carolina and Elgin, Kershaw County, South Carolina).

A United States city's article, however, should never be titled simply "city, country" (e.g "Detroit, United States").

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I think that this covers incorporated places like cities, towns etc, however North Buffalo is not a city, town, Village, hamlet or any other type of incorporated place. In fact I doubt that it has any legally defined borders (unless you are talking about those set up for elections of common console seats). This is why I think that this should be North Buffalo, Buffalo, New York. What happens if there is a city say downstate named North Buffalo?

T.C. 05:01, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Then I guess it gets disambiguated further. In that case, I think it would be OK to have North Buffalo, Buffalo, New York and North Buffalo, MyRandomTown, New York as two separate articles.

Because that guideline doesn't cover neighbourhoods (yet), it should be OK to move it to the longer title to keep things standard - but I have a feeling that will change when that guideline covers neighbourhoods. I notice you did a cut-and-paste move - that shouldn't be done to preserve page history. So you can take my comments into account, and if you decide to move it, tag North Buffalo, Buffalo, New York for speedy deletion under point 6, saying you wish to move North Buffalo, New York to North Buffalo, Buffalo, New York. Then, move North Buffalo, New York to North Buffalo, Buffalo, New York. If you need help, contact me again. x42bn6 Talk 03:09, 14 April 2007 (UTC)