Talk:Norteño (music)
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Norteño polkas and norteño music are to totally different things. I sould know I dance this stuff so they shouldn't add polkas norteñas and norteño music together it confusing. Keep them apart polkas is for dancing norteñas are to listen to.
[edit] Accuracy
The site linked as an "External Link" The Handbook of Texas Online: Musica Norteña tells a very different story about the origin of Norteño music, claiming that the origin was with Mexican Texans, perhaps when the state was still a part of Mexico or when there wasn't a "real" border. This is different from saying that the music had its origin in Northern Mexico, which implies the current north of Mexico. --Bfraga 17:33, 9 April 2006 (UTC) Europeans brought the accordion to Mexico and Southwestern U.S. Mexicans took that instrument, and over time have developed their own style of music using that instrument. Just like a lot of Mariachi music, a lot of modern "norteno" music has Europen classical influence at it's core. Listen to any corrido by Jorge Gamboa or any other "norteno" artist that's in right now, and you'll notice polka rythms. From the paso doble of "rancheras" to the venitian waltz of "corridos" (think tan dan tan, tan dan tan). Anyhow, if you want to know how "norteno" music has evolved, listen to "Los Alegres de Teran, then to "Carlos y Jose", and "Los Relampagos del norte (they are Cornelio Reyna and Ramon Ayala), then "Los Tigre del norte" and "Invasores de Nuevo Leon", then the great "Chalino Sanchez", then "Los Tucanes de Tijuana" and "Los Originales de San Juan". Follow that with some sounds from "Lupillo Rivera" and end with some "Jorge Gamboa". For added kicks, check out some "Cuates de Sinaloa" and "Los Inquietos del Norte" to see what's up with this style of music. Don't forget to hear the corrido "Chuy y Mauricio". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.104.3.108 (talk) 09:32, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Conjunto?
Conjunto just means "group," as in:
Calixto Ochoa y su Conjunto
Julio de la Ossa y su Conjunto
Abel Antinio Villa y su Conjunto
Nafer Duran y su Conjunto
...all of whom play cumbias, not norteño. Now if the word conjunto has become some sort of established misnomer refering to the genre itself (and from a quick google search it seems like it has), like calling people from the netherlands "dutch" or native americans "indians" that's fine. But claiming that "Many norteño bands will have 'Conjunto' as part of their name," is kind of like pointing out that many big band ensembles had "orchestra" as part of their name. True, but useless information.
Mirror dash shade 05:34, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
I agree, the redirect of "Conjunto" is absurd and does not make sense for anyone who is not Mexican. It should be removed because it ignores the many 'conjuntos' that do not have any connection to Mexican music and it will give a lot of people the wrong impression. Although watching the 'conjunto folklorico' from Cuba play 'norteno' would be interesting. dmcmanam dmcmanam December 2007
