Talk:Norman Tebbit

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What is the evidence to support the assertion that Tebbitt was a pilot ?. It is my understanding that he was cabin crew

In his autobiography he says he was a pilot with the RAF in his national service and then with BOAC.


Cabin crew?? Really?? Bloody hell...imagine Norman Tebbit mincing down the ailses offering you a British Airways "all day Deli" bag!

He was then a journalist for the Financial Times before serving with the RAF, flying Meteor and Vampire jets during four years of National Service. On leaving the RAF he joined BOAC in 1953 as a pilot And all by the age of 22, if the dates here are right. Are the dates right?

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[edit] Quotes

Should the quotes section be moved to Wikiquote?--Darrelljon 20:59, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Agree, usual WP practice. Philip Cross 21:47, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

This quote used to be around but it's now not even on wikiquote. I can't find a decent provenance for the (complete including last bit) quote on the net.

The Muslim religion is so unreformed since it was created that nowhere in the Muslim world has there been any real advance in science, or art or literature, or technology in the last 500 years...we've leapt ahead in all material terms, but the Muslim world would say we have fallen down in all spiritual and moral terms. We have to accept our share of the blame and they have to accept theirs.

Is it apocryphal? Cutler (talk) 00:02, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

He said it during an interview with the ePolitix website in August 2005.[1]--Johnbull (talk) 12:58, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] transgenderphobe?

Is he a transgender phobe when he refered to gender reasingment surgery as a form of mutilation when trying to attach his wrecking amendment to the Gender Recognition Act.--Lucy-marie 20:26, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Tebbit seems to be phobic towards any number of people who fall short of his definition of 'normal', and it's often something to do with sexuality/gender that bothers him. He once praised Ian Duncan-Smith for being 'remarkably normal', on the grounds that he is married with children, while criticising Michael Portillo, the implication being obvious. Some of Tebbit's statements over the years are truly extraordinary. MarkB79 03:06, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trade unionist?

This conversation recently occured at Talk:Margaret Thatcher#British trade unionist as well - should Tebbit be included in the Category:British trade unionists? I would think he could perhaps be more accurately described as Category:British anti-trade unionists? :) --Bookandcoffee 20:04, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

There is no way Tebbit should be in this category, it's absurd. Individuals should not qualify for the list of British Trade Unionists just because they happened to be members of a trade union at some point in their lives, you'd have to include thousands of people on here - it should be restricted to people who are particularly notable for being trade unionists and/or have played an important role within the union movement. Listing Tebbit as a notable 'trade unionist' is ridiculous.

MarkB79 03:06, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Very Militant Trade Unionist

He was a prominent leader of BALPA in the early 1960's when the union refused to co-operate in introducing the new big jet aircraft. He spent months leading this 'go slow/work to rule' against the government and the people when British Airways was publicly owned. 82.47.176.254 21:05, 14 November 2006 (UTC)mikeL

[edit] POV Inherent in choice of quotes

The selection of quotes from Tebbit cited in the last section of this article has clearly been carefully picked (probably out of context) to make him look bad. This is a very sneaky way of inserting a leftwing POV into the article, as the quotes themselves can't be challenged. It is urgently necessary to add some more quotes that present a more accurate and well-rounded view of Tebbit's perspective. Walton monarchist89 10:41, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Personally, I think they are excellent quotes. His comments on the BBC are ones that any serious Right-Winger will agree with. His comments on The West vs. Islam are also right on the money. Only a pathetic pinko could view those quotes as anything other than the truth. 87.194.74.193 01:19, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
The comments you have just made about other users points of views may constiue a personal attack and should be avoided.--Lucy-marie 14:22, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
In fact, I resent the allegation that I am a "pathetic pinko" - I am in fact a passionate Conservative and Thatcherite. Although I myself agree with many of the opinions expressed in his quotes, I'm only trying to say that they don't represent a balanced view of his opinions - he has said many more moderate things, that the article glosses over. I fear you've misunderstood my comments; I wasn't trying to attack Tebbit, but to criticise the way this article is organised. Walton monarchist89 10:48, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Removed quotes section entirely. Seems like the simplest way when Wikiquote exists. If someone wants to add something more balanced, feel free 82.152.90.185 09:57, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Atheist?

This article has been placed in the category of British atheists. Nowhere in the text can I find this mentioned, let alone cited. If there were an unsourced comment in the body of the article to the effect that Tebbit is an atheist then I would mark it with {{fact}}. I have heard that he is not religious and so it's certainly possible that he is an atheist. However, without a citation, I submit that the article should be removed from the British atheists category. Greenshed 20:16, 1 July 2007 (UTC)