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[edit] Predicting the future

"From the brief time that we did spend occupying Iraqi territory after the war, I am certain that had we taken all of Iraq, we would have been like the dinosaur in the tar pit -- we would still be there, and we, not the United Nations, would be bearing the costs of the occupation. This is a burden I am sure the beleaguered American taxpayer would not have been happy to take on." It Doesn't Take a Hero, p.498

Along those lines, would someone like to consider adding something about Schwarzkopf's statements during the US rush to war in Iraq in 2003? BBC News World Edition, "Stormin' Norman: Don't rush into war", http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2705275.stm

[edit] Initial initial

General Schwarzkopf's objections notwithstanding (and I don't think I'd like the name much either if I had it), if his first name weren't "Herbert" he wouldn't be a "Junior". - Hephaestos|§ 01:20, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Well, as his father was also called "H. Norman" by his own volition, although his given name was "Herbert Norman", it actually makes sense to attach a "Junior" to the son's name. The "initial initial" issue (as opposed to "middle initial") is treated in the West Point part of the autobiography (truth be told, though, I don't know whether such a naming scheme is in fact allowed in the U.S., or any other nation for that matter. He'd have trouble in Norway, I think). --Wernher 01:35, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Preferably we'd go with whatever's on the birth certificate for both of them, but I don't know of any way to easily obtain that info. - Hephaestos|§ 02:02, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)
This comment is poorly written. It's not clear why his father thought passing on the initial "H." was "getting revenge".

[edit] Initial military career

There's no mention of Schwarzkpof's enlisting as a private and serving in the Korean War, prior to his appointment to West Point. I don't know enough of the details to add this myself; anyone else game?

TJSwoboda 22:51, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

The reason there's no mention is because he didn't enlist as a private or serve in Korea.

User:Spock 156.34.30.54 20:32, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Moving comment from article to talk page

The following comment was added to the article by User:12.178.97.195 00:42, 14 July 2006 (UTC):

Military Resume should indicate greatest number of soldiers lead. Number of MIA, KIA, and by name/grade/MOS list.

This comment is appropriate for the talk page, not for insertion into the main article. — ERcheck (talk) 02:05, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Community Commander

What is a Community Commander ? is it a de:Stadtkommandant ? but in peacetime ?? --Symposiarch 15:59, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] In line cites

This article really needs some in line cites, I don't think merely quoting the biograph at the bottom is good enough for an article of such an important topic. Some 3rd party sources would be nice too :) SGGH speak! 20:33, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

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Gen. Schwarzkopf endorsed Sen. John McCain for President in January 2008

[edit] Gen. Schwarzkopf endorsed Sen. John McCain for President in January 2008

Gen. Schwarzkopf endorsed Sen. John McCain for President in January 2008 189.166.144.35 (talk) 23:46, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism

The article should include some of the major criticism directed at Schwarzkopf. Some items : the left hook of the Hail Mary plan ended up being useless because the Iraqis were already retreating, he let the Iraqi Republican Guard escape back to Iraq, he ended the war too quickly, he bungled the armistice with the Iraqis letting them fly helicopter which they used to slaughter Iraqi people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.239.68.238 (talk) 08:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)