Talk:Norma McCorvey

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I don't get it . . . she was born in 1947 and divorced in 1960 . . . when did she marry? According to this entry McCorvey was 13 at the time she divorced her husband. Are the dates acurate?

[edit] Religion

Was McCorvey actually confirmed in the Catholic Church? The statement on her relgious status is a little ambiguous/untechnical. ~ Dpr 05:08, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I believe she is now a Catholic. How do you suggest her religious status be less ambigious/untechnical?

I was under the impression that when adults enter the Catholic Church through RCIA, they are both baptized and confirmed.69.181.143.10 00:12, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

A little old to be answering this but for the sake of others: Assuming Norma McCorvey's baptism in the swimming pool was valid then so far as the Church is concerned she was already a Christian and therefore not eligible for the R[ite of] C[hristian] I[nitiation for] A[dults]. So far as the Church is concerened a baptism in such a case would be futile. A valid baptism can theoretically be administered by a non-Christian so long as he or she uses water and baptises in the name of the Trinity. McCorvey would have been received into the Church at a ceremony that would have included communion and confirmation. I know that Catholic parishes always mash the Receptions in with the Baptisms (RCIA) at the Easter Vigil but they ain't supposed to. Stroika 21:17, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

A note about eligibility for RCIA: It is incorrect to say that Norma McCorvey's Christian baptism as an infant rendered her ineligible for the RCIA program, through which aspiring converts are catechized in the doctrine of the Church. I am an RCIA instructor for the Archdiocese of Chicago and can confirm that baptized Christian non-Catholics are required to go through the many months of RCIA instruction before receiving the Eucharist and being Confirmed into the Church on Holy Saturday. Also, Catholic parishes don't "mash" anything improperly as is suggested in this comment. The Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults is carried out properly as is stipulated in the clearly stated rubrics of the Church. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.176.139.151 (talk) 14:37, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

As I understand it, Norma McCorvey was baptized as an infant in the Catholic Church, but her family was not practicing. She became a Baptist much later in life. Yes, the Catholic Church does recognize all previous baptisms under the Trinitarian formula, if "moving water" is used. So, yes, she would have just made a profession of faith, and received Confirmation and Eucharist. I believe that she was received (back) into the Church about 10 years ago, when in most dioceses confirmandi and catechumens were still received jointly at the Vigil. The practice of separating them is clearly preferred and now much more common. --Vaquero100 00:58, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

You say converted to Christianity. This implies she wasn't a Christian to begin with. What was her faith before converting?

[edit] Bisexual

Is there any reference for this? I'm not suggesting it isn't true, but for something that seems highlighted as it is, there ought to be some reference. Jake b 04:16, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

There's NNDB, but I don't know how reliable it is. WP 04:02, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
NNDB is often unreliable. Is that the only source? Michael 08:11, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

This information, which has yet to be reliably confirmed, is completely irrelevant to her conversion to Christianity. A new section dealing with "Other" information should be created. Until then, this information needs to be deleted.

The video "Reversing Roe" about her life, mentions, too, that she was bisexual. As I understand it from the video (which I have seen numerous times), she led a life of drugs, alcohol and promiscuous sex (with whomever).

[edit] Counsel

McCorvey now claims she became the "pawn" of two young and ambitious lawyers (including Sarah Weddington) who were looking for a plaintiff whom they could use to challenge the Texas state law prohibiting abortion.

This wording is a little bizarre. Who was the other attorney?—Preceding unsigned comment added by AEton (talkcontribs) 11:42, 5 July 2006

According to Roe v. Wade#History of case, it was Linda Coffee and Sarah Weddington. WP 03:57, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Indeed...I added mention of Coffee to the article. When one considers the case, though, Weddington is usually presented as being more prominent, due to the fact that she was the lead attorney, delivering the arguments before the Court and whatnot. Michael 08:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
I created an article for Linda Coffee last week. If anyone knows a good deal about her, please contribute, as so little is available on her. Michael 08:11, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Again, the video mentioned above paints a very negative view of Weddington and Coffee. McCorvey at the time was very bitter that they basically dumped her, went to Washington, and then came back and asked 'How are things going?' McCorvey recounts in the video that it was at this time that she really dove into the drugs, etc. Her response to Weddington was, "I had a baby and you weren't here."

Flipp Benam (sp?) states in the video that the pro-choice side always paraded McCorvey around as their prop, but never talked about her life of drugs, sex, etc. They cared about the 'cause' but not about the person he recounts. This was the turning point in the story in terms of McCorvey's view of the Church. She finally found a place where people cared about her and loved her.