Talk:Norfolk

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Good article Norfolk was one of the Geography and places good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.


I think the number of links pointing at Norfolk that mean Norfolk, England, suggest that Norfolk should be is the natural home for this page, and that what is currently at Norfolk should be moved to Norfolk (disambiguation) Mintguy (T) 10:54, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I nearly did it but I changed my mind due to Norfolk, Virginia having quite a large population - 234,403. Morwen 11:27, Feb 27, 2004 (UTC)
Right - done - based solely on the vast number of links as you point out. Morwen 23:13, Feb 28, 2004 (UTC)

The key to the Map of Districts has been changed at some point - not sure when or by whom. It should run from 1 to 7. I'll attempt to correct it - if I can't, I'll leave it to Morwen. Agendum 23:30, 20 May 2004 (UTC)

Looks like this has been done too. Rob 18:39, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Categorise Lists?

I'd like to categorise List of places in Norfolk into populated places, geographical features, ports, airfields, historical sites, forests, open areas of water, rivers, tourist attractions etc - do people think that this would help? Rob 18:39, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Norfolk, USA?

I'm relatively new to Wikipedia, though I know enough to know that any humble American who suggests something inclusive of America runs the risk of being accused of cultural imperialism. (Not by the majority, mind you, but by a certain element.) So please don't bite me for this suggestion; I mean it with the purest of intentions. Norfolk, Virginia has a population of about 250,000 and most Americans (all ~300 million of us) think of it when we hear the word "Norfolk". Yes, yes, "America is not the world", but isn't a disambiguation page the most inclusive thing to do? It seems that that was the status quo until about a year ago when there was near-unilateral action to move Norfolk, England to Norfolk (see Talk:Norfolk) and no one has undone it. About 1000-1500 links each point to both Norfolk and Norfolk, Virginia, and I guarantee you many of those "Norfolk" links are intended for Norfolk, Virginia as placed by misinformed countrymen of mine. What are your thoughts? Raggaga 02:34, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Interesting thought. Norfolk, UK is the first Norfolk and that which lends it's name to all the other Norfolk's that there are scattered round the globe so I guess that it has some precidence to be where the link points to, also Norfolk UK is considerably larger in terms of geographical area and population than Norfolk, VA. I think that I would vote to leave the links as they are but add a little bit more on the disambiguation at the start, as for the mis directed links we should fix them. I'll do 200 or so if you will, don't know if this is something that a bot can help with, i.e. if it could do some of this work - I will try to research it. Rob 13:54, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
I've been through and verified that all the links that point to Norfolk are genuine Norfolk England pages pointing the others where they should go. The list that I worked through is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RobertWalden/Norfolk_UK_Linkers I need to check for new arrivals sometime but other than that it's done, I did not bother to check users pages, thought that it would be too difficult. Rob 08:37, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Great Yarmouth District Council

Great Yarmouth District Council is not controlled by the Lib Dems, it is Conservative. Also Norwich City Council is no longer Labour but Lib Dem. The map is therefore quite wrong. Also along with a newly coloured in map for the district councils it would also be good to have one with parliamentary constituencies coloured in as a correctly coloured in district council map would show no Labour representation. However, Labour have 3 Norfolk MPs which is a significant number.

The red isn't intended to indicate political control, just to show the location of the county. Barnabypage 08:04, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Delia Smith

She wasn't born in Norfolk and doesn't, I believe, live there so should she really count as a Person of Norfolk? Barnabypage 16:47, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

her association with NCFC is what gets her there, although she may live over the border, perhaps the section could do with retitling. GraemeLeggett 19:26, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
I've made a new section for people who are associated with Norfolk but are not actually from the county themselves (well as far as I know anyway).
Good idea. I wonder how (if at all) we should handle the various royals closely associated with Sandringham? Barnabypage 19:55, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Delia Smith was born in Surrey, raised in Kent.

and lives in Suffolk...GraemeLeggett 09:36, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External links

There seem to be a lot of links to sites that may well be linkspam. Perhaps they ought to be cleared out.--A bit iffy 12:57, 26 January 2007 (UTC) I agree that there is loads of spam and I have seen this list increase over recent months. Only credible site or sites with sufficient useful content IMO should avoid the broom :)195.137.98.70 17:03, 14 February 2007 (UTC) I agree too. Rob 17:25, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA on hold

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force in an effort to ensure all listed Good articles continue to meet the Good article criteria. In reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues that may need to be addressed.

  • Image:Arms-norfolk.jpg needs a fair use rationale.
  • Main articles shouldn't contain long lists. I recommend copying the People of Norfolk section to List of people from Norfolk, and then creating a section in this article consisting of prose about Norfolk's most notable residents. Each resident will need an inline citation.
  • The education section need citations throughout.
  • References should state the author, publisher, publishing date and access date if known.
  • Please provide citations for these statements:
    • "Rural parts of the county, notably the area around Burnham Market, are also popular locations for city dwellers to purchase weekend homes."
    • "By the 5th century the Angles, for whom East Anglia and England itself are named, had established control of the region and later became the "north folk" and the "south folk", hence, "Norfolk" and "Suffolk"."
    • "Migration into East Anglia must have been high, as by the time of the Conquest and Domesday Book survey, it was one of the most densely populated parts of the British Isles."
    • "During the English Civil War Norfolk was largely Parliamentarian. The economy and agriculture of the region declined somewhat, and during the industrial revolution Norfolk developed little industry and was a late addition to the railway network."
    • "The first development in airfields came with the First World War; there was then a massive expansion during the Second World War with the growth of the Royal Air Force and the influx of the American USAAF 8th Air Force which operated from many Norfolk airfields."
    • "The Norfolk Dialect also known as "Broad Norfolk" is the accent/dialect of people living in Norfolk, although over the modern age, a lot of the vocabulary and phrases have died out due to a number of factors such as radio, TV and people from other parts of the country coming to Norfolk."
    • "the traditional nickname for people from Norfolk is 'Norfolk Dumpling' or 'Norfolk Pudden'"
    • "More cutting, perhaps, was the formerly-used pejorative medical term "Normal for Norfolk", now discredited, the use of which is banned by the profession."

I will check back in no less than seven days. If progress is being made and issues are addressed, the article will remain listed as a Good article. Otherwise, it may be delisted (such a decision may be challenged through WP:GA/R). If improved after it has been delisted, it may be nominated at WP:GAC. Feel free to drop a message on my talk page if you have any questions. Regards, Epbr123 12:19, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

As no improvements have been made in the past two weeks, I'm afraid I've had to delist the article. Epbr123 16:56, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Education

Hello.Could someone enlighten me and let me know where the Norfolk Academy is?Northmetpit 16:24, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

In the Education section I really don't think that there should be a breakdown of GCSE results by school and district, therefore I have removed this, twice. If this was to be included then A level results would also have to be noted, and perhaps results from UEA as well.Dancarney 18:34, 7 October 2007 (UTC)