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[edit] Nor'easter LAN party

There is a Nor'easter LAN party in new england hosted by lpane (lan party associate of new england) Dunno if that deserves any mention.

[edit] npov

How exactly does this entry come across as NPOV? Is the writer too much in favor of the nor'easter? Does this person seem to editorialize too much on the nature of nor'easters? IS THERE A CHANCE THAT THE NYT WILL RUN A STORY ON HOW WIKIPEDIA WAS UNFAIR TO NOR'EASTERS? ... Yeah. Removing the NPOV warning. 204.69.40.7 13:31, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blizzard of the hot year???????

What on earth is the bilzzard of the hot year??? Is that the nor'easter that is happening right now? Evan Robidoux 16:04, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

I'd call that one the Blizzard of February 2006. CrazyC83 17:47, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Somewhat Common Misuse

I live near Boston. I've noticed a fair number of people reversing the nor'easter definition; they seem under the impression that nor'easter means that a storm is heading to the northeast instead of coming from it. This particularly seems to occur in the case of storm systems coming up the coast from the mid-atlantic states and then heading out to sea to the northeast from new england. I haven't bothered to find any print or broadcast uses of this backwards definition; I would be very surprised to see a weatherman use it backwards, seems more a mistake of ignorant people, like the common confusion between biweekly and semiweekly. It's possible that people like using the term so much that they are seizing any chance to make use of it. I'm not going to add this to the article, since I have no citations, but it's something to keep a watch on. Akb4 00:11, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

My understanding from the years I lived in Providence was that in a northeaster, the storm itself is heading up the coast from the southwest, but the wind (and, crucially, the rain, snow, and sleet) blows in from the northeast. Endlessly. (Or maybe it just seemed that way. :) /blahedo (t) 19:16, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Note that the name refers to the direction of the wind over land, not the direction of travel of the whole storm system. Any cyclone off the east coast of North America will have its northwest quadrant over the Atlantic seaboard, and therefore its winds will be blowing from the northeast toward the southwest due to the Coriolis effect. Whether a storm is traveling up the coast or down it does not matter; it's whether its center lies off the coast that classifies it as a nor'easter or not. 72.195.135.175 15:13, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why only New England?

Why is only New England considered a source for the term "nor'easter?" The storms affect Virginia and Carolina too (as in the storm there this weekend); that region might have originated the term too. 74.131.102.124 19:07, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Is a nor'easter any different from what would be called a tropical storm or hurricane farther south? Art LaPella 18:29, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

The term is from England. They were using it in the 1500's.

The definition of a noreaster is an extratropical cyclone. The one we are having this weekend (4/15/07) is not spinning at all. It's just a cold front. There is no vortex, no cyclone, just media hype.Morgan Wright 16:43, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

First of all, the nor'easter of April 15, 1007 was a spinning low pressure system and it did have a vortex. The low pressure dropped to 969 millibars. That would make it a very strong nor'easter.

Anyway, a nor'easter is differnet than a tropical cyclone, because a nor'easter is a 'Cold Centered Low Pressure System'. A hurricane is a 'Warm centered low pressure system. Even if a cold front moved into warm waters of the south, it would not form a tropial cyclone because the nor'easter would not be a Cold centered low.Juliancolton 21:28, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation

I've lived in Connecticut for 24 years and I've never heard anyone pronounce it “naw-EE-stuh” like the Boston accent on "lob-stuh" (Lobster). I wouldn't be surprised if Bostoners slaughter the pronounciation of nor'easter the same way they do for "lobster," "chowder," and most other things they try to say, but this mispronounciation of the word is certainly NOT the way most New Englanders say it. Suggesting that it is is completely idiotic. 70.135.203.73 09:26, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

For what it's worth, in the UK it's pronounced "gnaw-easter" (can't do phonetic - so am using two words which I think have a fairly standard pronunciation, the same in the US and in the UK). The accent is on the "east". 86.133.245.23 17:14, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] wrong information

The information in this article is very incorrect. First of all, as stated in the article "nor'easter's typically move very slowly in thier mature stage" is completly wrong. Nor'easters move very fast along the coast, exept under very rare circumstances such as a blocking High pressure area. I will try to add more information and better details to thisJuliancolton 18:31, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] todo

I did some work on this article...still start class? Anyway, this article does not need such a big section on usage and origins. I think that it also needs more of an effect section. I can see this article as at least a GA with some major work. This could get as informative as Tropical cyclone. -- Juliancolton (talk) 21:13, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Please do clarify the additions . . . in one section the nor'easter is associated with warm fronts and cold fronts, but in another section it is associated solely with a cold front, which seems to be confused. Also, the Usage and Origins section should not be removed.

I did not see that. I will fix it as soon as I can. To make it clear, a nor'easter is associated with a cold front and a warm front. Now, the usage and origins section has nothing to do with the meteorological aspects of the nor'easter. And other than that, there is no refereneces for that section, just completely original research. I will wait for more feedback, and then I will do a major fix-up to this article, as it is a pathetic article for such an important storm. Juliancolton (talk) 14:38, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Some info on the Dolan-Davis scale would be nice; I'll try to pull some info and maybe even TRY to create a graphic for it. If anyone else is able to get it done faster, that'd be great. Here's one citation for the main paper about it: Robert E Davis, Gregory Demme, Robert Dolan "Synoptic climatology of atlantic coast North-Easters" International Journal of Climatology Volume 13, Issue 2 , Pages 171 - 189. Another citation would be Robert E. Davis, Robert Dolan, September-October 1993 "Nor’easters," American Scientist, 428-439 Artsygeek (talk) 08:12, 2 January 2008 (UTC) (Addendum: here's also a New York Times piece: "Scientists Put a Ruler on Northeasters" By CORNELIA DEAN Published: June 23, 1992)