Talk:Non-American casualties of the September 11, 2001 attacks

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[edit] Non-American

Please review the correct context of non-American title here. Maybe, non-US citizens might be more appropiate. (Camilo Sanchez 16:20, 21 October 2007 (UTC)) Nixdorf, See Use of the word American, and contribute to its talk page if you'd like.

I don't quite get the title of this page. It says "Non-American casualties" but lists several American countries like Brazil and Ecuador etc. Do you actually mean "Non-USA-Citizen casualties"?

Nixdorf 09:59 May 14, 2003 (UTC)

http://www.september11victims.com/september11victims/COUNTRY_CITIZENSHIP.htm

This site has a completely different list of nationalities. I am not sure if it is more correct though. --rmhermen

These numbers don't make any sense at all. Depending on how I add them up, but being conservative (e.g., the "Mexico 150 to 500" I took as 150) I get 2514 dead foreigners! That leaves ... er ... just over 500 US citizens. Tannin 10:37 Mar 8, 2003 (UTC)

I suggest redirecting to /Casualties until someone comes here and makes a non-stub with verifiable information. Martin

Probably not a bad idea, Martin. I just had a bit of a quick hunt on Google to see if I could get the up-to-date figures somewhere, and while I'm sure they are out there somewhere, finding them isn't obvious. Tannin

Though looking on this very page might help. (blush). Tannin

No copyright implications?

I shouldn't think so. You can't copyright a number, or even a list of numbers, though you might be able to copyright the actual ordering (as in, e.g., the ordered list of numbers that makes up a computer program). In any case, the numbers I stuck in just now aren't cut and paste, they are the sum of two seperate lists addedd together. Which makes what I did ... er .. original research! Eeek! If I get found out, I'll have to move it to Sourceberg instead! Tannin

Another site, http://www.worldstatesmen.org/index2.html, listed some nations that we forgot to mention here. I will try to find out the Belarusian losses on 9/11, but it will be hard. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 00:22, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[1] Mentions of a missing Belarusian, but I am not sure the fate of the citizen. IIRC, I heard four died, but I just need to find the official documents. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 00:30, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] VFD debate

On June 18 2005 this article was proposed for deletion. An archive of the debate is at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Non-American casualties of the September 11, 2001 Attacks. Although there was a majority of voters favoring deletion, there was not a consensus and therefore the article was kept. Sjakkalle (Check!) 30 June 2005 08:33 (UTC)

2 Argentine pople died thanks to the terrorist attacks in 2001, both were in te wtc. can i add them?

[edit] Just a question...

IF, and this is an IF, but IF it is the goal of Wikipedia to be truly neutral. Shouldn't the 19 hijackers also be included as non-American casualties from the 9-11 attacks? I don't particularly care one way or the other, but it would seem that if neutrality is the goal, both parties, innocent and terrorist should be included. 4.224.99.143 05:25, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

If so, they should be listed separately.

Yeah, why aren't the terrorists included in the casulties list? They died too. And are the jumpers included in the WTC casulties list? If they are, that SCREAMS hypocrocy (excuse sp) because they didn't actually die in the event, they choose not to, but the hi-jackers did die in the event, but arent included. Screwed up world, especially when people complain about crap like the Simpson epidose The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson because they show the towers. People wanted it banned. Lighten up America. --Hamedog_Talk|^@ 09:46, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, the jumpers were included in the list. As for the Hyjackers, I dont know it they are included or not. This is a user generated infomational web site. If the information on it is incorrect, change it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.254.63.130 (talk) 21:11, 7 March 2008 (UTC)