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[edit] Shlama

Shlama Nochi and welcome ot wikipedia. If you have any questions on how to do things, please do ask. But I dont think that kind of talk is approriate in an encyclopedia. Pshena. Chaldean 04:15, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Berber page

Is there a reason why you reverted my reversion to your version of the page? I think yours is by far the most accurate. Irrer 18:42, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Riffians and 3RR

Greetings, Nochi. Two things about our present "Riffian" disagreement on the Berber people article:
First, I want to ensure that you are aware of the 3-revert rule. In short, it says that editors are forbidden to make more than 3 reverts on the same article within 24 hours. I mention this because you are up to 3 reverts already. Please take this as a friendly warning not to revert that article again for a while.
Second, I want to ensure that you understand why I have taking "Riffian" back out of the article at the spot where you have been adding it: Right there, the text is giving examples of Berbers outside of Morrocco who tend not to refer to themselves as "Imazighen". Riffians are, on the contrary, Berbers inside Morrocco who do refer to themselves as "Imazighen". So they are just not useful as examples, there. This is not to impugn their credentials as Berbers. Aside from that, there is no need for more than two examples. One would be enough, really.
I hope that explanation satisfies your objection, and that you can now see why it is not sensible to mention the Riffians at that point in the article. I suggest that you find a good place elsewhere in the article to do that. Perhaps you should make a section that lists the various Berber groups.
Cordially, Lonewolf BC 07:10, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Shlama

First of all, I too am a Chaldean Catholic. But if your going to completely change the article, then you have to address everyone at the talk page first before you do so. Please be more aware of how wikipedia works. Chaldean 15:52, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Egyptians

Instead of just deleting it all, why not propose a merger, a lot of content would be lost by just redirecting the page. Deflagro Contribs/Talk 15:40, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Ack, sorry. That wasn't supposed to be a warn! Deflagro Contribs/Talk 15:42, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Well I don't know a lot about Egyptians, but maybe you could propose that the section is merged into it. Or if you disagree with somethin, you could ask for a reference using the {{fact}} template. But it is probably not a good idea to delete the whole article. Deflagro Contribs/Talk 15:47, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Hello Nochi. I'm Lanternix, an Egyptian Copt. Egyptians are indeed an ethnic group. Clearly, like any other ethnicities, they have some outside influence due to various immigrations (Greeks and Arabs mainly). Yet, these foreign immigrants came to Egypt when Egypt was alreadyy having millions of Egyptians living there. You can compare the way modern Egyptians look with the Portraits of Faiyum from the 2nd century BC to see the striking similarities between both groups. I'll be glad to answer any more questions. Cheers. --Lanternix 17:35, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article: Sumer

Dear Nochi, I noticed you did a pretty large deletion of information from the article Sumer. I checked the article's discussion page and found no conversation regarding massive deletions. Please go back to the history and compare your versions, to be sure you meant to delete the sections you did. If you are working on the article, please please, put in the edit summary box, details of what you're doing so the monitors do not revert your work. Thank you, Ariel♥Gold 17:35, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Again, please, do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. When you blank a page to work on it for revision, the monitors will come and revert it. Better yet, I'd suggest that you create a sandbox of your own, such as User:Nochi/Sumer and work on the article there until you're ready to publish it. Thank you! Ariel♥Gold 17:42, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Maronite and Maronite Church

Hi Nochi. I have reverted your cut-and-paste redirecting job. Don't do it that way, please - it destroys a page's edit history. If you want to rename an article, or merge two articles, [a] get consensus from these who have worked on the article, and [b] delete the article with the destination name, [c] move the source article there, and [d] restore the destination article and merge it into the source article. If you're not an administrator, you can ask me or any other administrator (there's over a thousand of us) to do it for you. Sounds complicated? Well, yes, it's made deliberately difficult. It's not meant to be kid's play, because if articles are moved around willy-nilly for no good reason, we won't know where we are.

Don't take this as a criticism - just a word of advice. I was new to wikipedia once, and made lots of mistakes like this one, so please don't think I'm dumping on you. Anyway, welcome to wikipedia! David Cannon (administrator) 20:57, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll be happy to do as you said. Please give me about 12-18 hours, as I'm supposed to be working at the moment, but will attend to it when I get home tonight:-) David Cannon 21:59, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Award

Thanks for the award :) — EliasAlucard|Talk 21:15 30 Jul, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture for Assyrian People infobox

Shlama aziza,

Please consult the talk page on Wikiproject Assyria, where I proposed to have a vote on who to include in the Assyrian people infobox. As you may already be aware, there is a bit of disagreement between myself and EliasAlucard as to who to include, and he recently changed the picture without consulting anybody. So if you could check out the page and perhaps provide some input as to how we can do this vote (if it is a good idea at all). We need to set some guidelines, because people such as EliasAlucard are making major edits without discussing them in the talk page first.

Thanks. Posh bshena.

Šarukinu 23:31, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Berber/Amazigh

Hi, I noticed you reverted an edit by a user who changed Berber to Amazigh. Please note that that is actually a correct word and widely used not only by Berbers themselves but also by Arab Moroccans, in France, and elsewhere. The two words are for all intents and purposes synonyms. Cheers! --Targeman 22:16, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

No I do not belive we should use the word "Amasigh" its not widely used its only used by berber themselfs wich mean "Free men" beacause they belive thats Berber is insulting word. its a nationalist term and if u rad it u think its a berber's work and not a neautral worl. Nochi 22:23, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I must disagree with you. "Amazigh" is quite mainstream. Berbers refer to themselves by both names interchangeably (think British-English, Persian-Iranian, etc.) The fact that you are bothered by the word's etymology and/or by a Berber contributing to an article on Arabs is rather tasteless IMO. --Targeman 22:34, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Eh no!, Persian is an ethnic group while Iranian are a nationality wich means citizen of iran, like Perisan-Iranian means a ethnic persian who are a citizen of Iran, like Azeri-Iranian, Arab-Iranian, Balochi Iranian and so on... same with English people wich are citizens of Great Bretain, welsh-britsish scotish british....u shud know thaht?.. Berber is not a natriopnaly and Amasigh is a ethnic group- corect term are Moroccan-Berber. i have nothing against berbers look at my userpage i am not even from the Maghreb nor am i arab? sop why shud i care? i only care if someone places Natinalists terms in a article wich are suppusd to be neatraul. Nochi 22:39, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
I think you are overreacting. Every nation has the right to call itself whatever it wants, and it's absolutely nobody else's business even if the nation doesn't have "its own country". Following the same logic, one could consider that "Assyrian" is a nationalist term because there is no such country as Assyria. You wouldn't like I that, I imagine? As per the UK, most sane people there don't give a damn how you call their nation. May be a good example to follow. --Targeman 22:49, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Your are talking nonsense and talking about thins you do not know alot about. Assyrians have never used the term "Assyrian" for nationalist term. its only used by ethnicity. u may confuse with Kurds, they use the tern Kurds as natinaluism and ethnicsm. Assyrians do not. they even say Iraqi Christians. anyway it seems ur a berber and thats great. i have nothing against berbers or the term amasigh its sounds beautiful. but like i said i wud rather have a term wich are widely used. thanks Nochi 16:17, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
You seem to jump to conclusions pretty fast. It may surprise you that I am not a Berber, not even close. And I do know that many Berbers refer to themselves simply as Moroccan or Algerian just like many Assyrians identify with Iraq. There's no need to get all worked up because someone put "Amazigh" in an article. It's the same kind of pettiness we see in the Greek opposition to "Macedonia". The world would be much better off if people grew out of this silliness. --Targeman 16:28, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry for ansewring too late, Aha u arnt berber but i guess u have berber freidns whjo u "Support". Listen, you are protecting the Term "Amasigh" and u say that its used by as many as Berber users. then why not suggest to change the artice berber people to Amasigh people? ;) Nochi 22:53, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Hey Nochi, what's your obsession with Berbers? I'm not Berber and, surprise, I have never even met a Berber except the guy who sold me a teapot in Marrakesh eight years ago. Amazigh redirects to Berber people and has been doing so for 3 years - as I said, both words mean exactly the same. Cheers! --Targeman 23:40, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Hey fellow Mesopotamian, just checkin out ur page. BTW, if u need me to lend a hand in particular just tell me.Tourskin 03:47, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] August 2007

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Aramaean people. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. Gscshoyru 12:27, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

CUT THE CRAP. You have made a mockery out of yourself since you have arrived. What on earth are you doing? The Aramaean people page has always been ridecrected to Aramaeans for a reason - NOBODY IN THE MIDDLE EAST CALLS THEMSELVES ARAMAYA. You can't just come here like superman and create a new ethnicity. STOP IT. Chaldean 12:39, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Aramaean people

Shlomo Nochi,

I also believe Aramaean people should be merged with Aramaeans. Both titles mean the same thing. I think we should include information about the current situation of the Aramaean people in the existing article, rather than creating a separate one. --Benne ['bɛnə] (talk) 13:04, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

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Please stop. If you continue to delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Talk:Arab Jews, you will be blocked for vandalism. Gscshoyru 15:52, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] WP:3RR

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[edit] Hello

Hello. Allow me to explain why Assyrians don't like the term Nestorian. One of the reasons is that Nestorianism view Jesus Christ as two forms or two distinct persons. However, many Assyrians deny this theology, even members of the Assyrian Church of the East deny this. They instead have another theology believing that Jesus Christ has two essences that are unmingled but eternally united in personality.

Furthermoore, Nestorian was a by-word for Heretic in Byzantine / Late Roman times and the Assyrians know this. Its not nice to call people from the Assyrian Church of the East Heretics (which is what you are saying by calling them Nestorians). And as I have already mentioned, many Assyrians are now in full communion with the Holy See of Rome, the Pope and are therefore do not even relate to Nestorius or his Nestorian theology in any way.

I hope this helps.

Regards.

Tourskin 03:13, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

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