Talk:No knock warrant

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[edit] Misleading?

This article says Kathryn Johnston "opened fire on the officers", but "None of the officers received life threatening injuries". To me, that makes it sound like she shot some cops. In fact, the Kathryn Johnston article says "Johnston only fired one shot, which did not hit any officers" and "Police injuries sustained in the raid were due to friendly fire and were not from Johnston's gun".

Does anybody else find this misleading? Can we rephrase it to sound more accurate?

Jan 7, 2008: Edited that section, should read more accurately now —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jehan60188 (talkcontribs) 16:56, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't understand why it is necessary to include the mention of people killed in no-knock warrants. The article should define what a no-knock warrant is and the scope of it. The article on knock and announce warrants does not have "no way near exhaustive list of those killed" section. I thought this was supposed to be an unbiased encyclopedia, not another venue to bash law enforcement. ElChorizo (talk) 23:24, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't see where an article containing cited facts is bashing law enforcement. Yaf (talk) 23:54, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

First off, I don't see any sources for this list of innocent civilians killed by trigger happy cops. Second, why isn't there a list of criminals that have been successfully locked up due to no knock warrants? The list serves no purpose other than to try and show that police are too quick on the draw and are reckless with their actions. ElChorizo (talk) 02:55, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I have added 3 more examples of no-knocks-gone-wrong, along with accompanying sources. Feel free to add any notable examples of no-knocks-saving-christmas. I would like to see a more fleshed out criticism section, detailing the argument that these warrants are unnecessary, unsafe, and unconstitutional. I will try to get around to it, but if anyone else wants a crack at it, please do. Messiahxi (talk) 17:50, 31 January 2008 (UTC)