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Contents 1 Han Xin 2 Happy fighting... 3 Sorry 4 User talk:71.230.220.176/User talk:BonniePrinceCharlie 5 The dert 6 Block Me Already sheesh! 7 User talk 12.167.200.173 8 Spam warning 9 Deletion of Caldari 10 Smick750 11 Rhode Island College vandalism 12 User:Guardian Tiger 13 The Dear Hunter Deletion 14 Deletion of Terapad.com link from blogging software 15 dont kick me out 16 deleted external link from Chinese language page 17 ROC and PRC barnstars 18 Chinese four-idiom page 19 In recognition 20 Threats against Smick750 21 Need admin assistance 22 perhaps you can help me... 23 User:Nationalist

[edit] Han Xin

Ah, thanks for pointing out and fixing that mistake. I will create a redirect page for Han Wangxin => Han Xin (Prince of Han) Hanfresco 20:44, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! --Nlu (talk) 23:59, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Happy fighting...

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		I am proud to award you with this small token of appreciation and acknowledgement for exceptional performance in fighting against vandalism. You are a legend, please keep up the great work! codetiger 17:27, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! --Nlu (talk) 17:27, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry

My apologies for this a disgusting vandalism. Dzienkuje. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shake+Bake (talk • contribs)

Just behave. :-) --Nlu (talk) 02:13, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Despite the apology, they are still at it. See their 'contributions', and especially the edits to Orange County High School of the Arts that they did today. Since they appear to be an unrepentant vandalism-only account, will you bitch slap vandal-whack them? ^BlankVerse 22:10, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Done. Thanks. --Nlu (talk) 00:18, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome.

It must be due to the Christmas Holidays, but there seems to be a run on school article vandalism. <Bah! Humbug!> ^BlankVerse (aka WikiScrooge) 04:11, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Nah. The school pages are really vandalized a lot more when schools are in session... --Nlu (talk) 07:29, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:71.230.220.176/User talk:BonniePrinceCharlie

I really wish you hadn't escalated on this IP user (presumably BPC, but so what?). People keep reverting the talk page when it's obvious that a major source of contention for the user is messages on the talk page. Are you certain that this is a static IP worth blocking for 24 hours as a first offense? Are you sure you want to endorse blocking users for talk page edits? "Peon" is hardly a personal attack worth dignifying with a response, is it? *sigh* -- nae'blis 19:08, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

The thing is, the user is either (1) not BPC, in which case he/she was improperly vandalizing the talk page or (2) BPC, in which case he/she is using sockpuppetry elude the consequences of proper association with BPC's edits. --Nlu (talk) 02:14, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Or c) doesn't always log in through laziness or computer error. But whatever, I just wanted to register that I've been watching his talk page for days (besides when I was on vacation) and surprised it was still going on. -- nae'blis 04:15, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

BPC hasn't edited using his own account since December 15. That's a rather long period of "laziness." --Nlu (talk) 05:59, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The dert

I am sorry about this and I hope it is OK but I know of no other way to contact you, I am pretty new to wikipedia. Nlu, I think you have just chastised me, but I am not too sure why? You mention that I tested something upon Kent. I do not know what that means. I did not test or know how to test anything. I added in some information with regards to Kent, but I thought that was the point of Wikipedia? I am genuinely confused, can you help me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by The dert (talk • contribs)

Your edits, not just that one, were clearly using nonencyclopedic language that you should have known is unencyclopedic. Remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and should be edited as such accordingly. Whether Kent has the largest population of monkeys doesn't belong in the section you edited; at most, it is trivial information that should be included elsewhere, and you cited no source for the edit, making me believe that it was intended as a derogatory remark. Your edit history (which included such things as [1] and [2] -- and, at the same time you made the Kent edit, [3]) also made me have absolutely no confidence in your ability to edit properly. Change your ways, and I'll change my perception of you. See WP:NOT on what Wikipedia is not. --Nlu (talk) 15:29, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I am even more confused. Kent does have the largest population of Monkeys in the UK.

I do not understand what is nonencylopedic about my language? I have not sworn nor have I used slang. The definition of encyclopaedic as I understand it is “comprehending a wide variety of information”.

From where I am standing you appear to be penalising me for your own very subjective views on what is interesting and what is not, in a completely arbitrary and heavy handed manner?

What is wrong with these monkey/Kent entries? If you can explain it to me then I will happily change my ways, but at the moment I feel somewhat victimised by you.

I am new to this site and I am doing my best to contribute, so if there is somewhere else that these facts belong then please help me and let me know where or how to create new places for them.

But please don’t scold, chastise or abuse me. It’s not nice, its not fair and its just plain mean.

In my opinion you are behaving like a bully in a play ground picking on the new kids who don’t know any better.

So please help the new people like me, don’t pick on us. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The dert (talk • contribs)

I already gave you links to some of your thoroughly unacceptable edits, as well as given you a link to what are considered inappropriate content for Wikipedia. If you don't change your ways, you will be blocked. --Nlu (talk) 00:19, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes you did. You told me that my addition of the factually accurate “Kent has the largest population of Monkeys in the UK” was non encyclopaedic in language and I asked you for an explanation as to why it is not?

I ask this because I truly do not understand what is wrong with the language I have used. Despite this simple and courteous request you have again threatened to ban me. Why?

I am now scared to add on any additional information to Wikipedia. If I do not know what you consider to be wrong with, “Kent has the largest population of Monkeys in the UK”, then I run the risk of you subjectively deciding that what ever I write is arbitrarily ‘wrong’ and not what you wish to see on Wickipedia. Even if it is factually accurate

My intentions are honourable, I have asked you for clarification, I have asked you for help and assistance and yet you have offered me none of these. All you do, is despite my pleas, threaten me. I am unsure how you gained this power you seem to wield, but in my opinion you are wielding it in an aggressive heavy handed manner. Surely your power means as well as dictating and threatening people you should also be there to aid and assist?

So once again I have to ask you what exactly is wrong with me writing “Kent has the largest population of Monkeys in the UK”? —Preceding unsigned comment added by The dert (talk • contribs)

I've given links to your other unacceptable edits. Don't play games. --Nlu (talk) 18:49, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I am actually not sure if you are being serious. I have come to you with a legitimate question and you accuse me of playing games. Quite simply tell me what is wrong with the language in "Kent has the largest population of monkeys in the UK".

Either explain your position or apologise. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. You have said yourself its factually accurate, and that the problem lies with the non encyclopaedic language, yet you refuse despite my best efforts to explain what is wrong with it. You accuse me of playing games… when all I am doing is asking for help and explanation. Surely you can employ your powers of empathy and see this from my point of view. If some one had threatened you for what you consider a spurious reason, would you not seek clarification and assistance?

So please do the right thing and provide me with the help I seek, after all you must have had a reason to remove this text and thus it shoul be very simple to tell me what that reason was. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The dert (talk • contribs)

I have given you enough explanations; no other explanations will be given. Continue being obtuse, and I'll interpret it as a sign that you are intentionally disruptive, and will deal with it accordingly. --Nlu (talk) 08:56, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

You have never not once explained what is wrong with the statement re the Monkeys and Kent. Not once. You say it is unenclyopedic but you do not tell me why. How is asking for help being obtuse? You have not once tried to help me nor once answered my question.

All you do is threaten me. I have done nothing to you and yet you seem determined to pick on me with out reason and with out explanation.

Please just answer the very simple question. Why did you remove the statement “ Kent has the largest population in the UK”?

Failure to do so will simply mean that you removed it for no reason as you clearly, despite my requests have no explainable reason for doing so. Thus you are indeed the very thing you pertain to hate. Quite simply a vandal who removes factually accurate information and then answers reasonable questions with threats. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The dert (talk • contribs)

If I may interject, Kent actually does have the largest monkey population in the UK. If you look up www.totallywild.net, you will see the sanctuary which offers sanctuary to many types of simian. In terms of British territories, the largest population of monkey is Gibraltar which has a native population of Barbary monkeys. However as UK refers to England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland then Kent is correct. Perjaboam 13:22, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Check this user's edit history. --Nlu (talk) 16:41, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

The number of posts I have made is irrelevant. I read Wikipedia daily and do not consider it necessary to contribute to articles because there appear to be many greater authorities on most subjects out there. I have provided references above to support what I have said, all of which is easily reseearched on the internet. This is what I did. I am not an authority on monkeys. I resent your dismissal of what I have written, simply because I have contributed less than others. Perjaboam 14:56, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Perjaboam that you for your support. It is much appreciated. But the validity of the statement was never Nlu's concern. The only critism he has levelled at me is that the entry “Kent has the largest population of monkeys in the UK” was non enclypodic in language.

I am honestly perplexed by his reasoning. But unfortunately he offers me no explanation about what is non encyclopaedic about it. I have no idea why he does this and after weeks of correspondence I have no option but to come to the conclusion that he had no valid reason to remove it. Why else would he fail to explain his reasoning? After all he must have had a reason to remove it and if he did why an he not tell me what it is?

Thus I am somewhat frustrated.

I am new to this site and I imagined that the moderators, if that is their right phrase and if that is what he is, where here to help newbies like me, not bully us. The problem I have is that I do not know who else to talk to about this. He is bullying me and I wish to report his actions but I do not know who to report them to.

Can you help me with that please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by The dert (talk • contribs)

[edit] Block Me Already sheesh!

Hi, I just wanted to say that I'm not sorry, and I won't take this from some obnoxious, contemptuous, supercilious admin/user. So, Can you ban me now so I can focus on making wikiHow an even better wiki then you guys are, or will ever dream to be? Thanks, have a blessed day, unsincerely, 141.150.42.233

[edit] User talk 12.167.200.173

Seriously, can you unblock my user page now. I have been making good contributions to wikipedia for some time now since I have been unblocked, and I would like to have my user talk page be unblocked. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.167.200.173 (talk • contribs)

Done. Please contribute positively, and welcome back. --Nlu (talk) 23:30, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spam warning

Hi, I appreciate that you do not want links that just promote or advertise a product so I understand your reasons for removing the link I added to the Royalty free music page, but there are other royalty free music site links under 'Royalty-free music sources' so I am confused as to why only my link has been removed? Also, the Article link I added on the Podcast page was not promoting a product, it was an informative article for any business considering podcasting. Any chance this can be put back? 86.136.119.232 20:00, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, in my opinion, your links are not compliant with WP:EL and WP:SPAM. The fact that there may be other spam links on the page is not a justification to add even more spam links. However, as Wikipedia is a collaborative project, if you can persuade the community that these are not spam links (by seeking consensus on Talk:Podcast and Talk:Royalty free music), I will abide by that. --Nlu (talk) 20:07, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Hello again, I would never try to justify adding a spam link; when I added the link I did not realise I would be accused of spamming because the section I was adding to has the title 'Royalty-free music sources' and the link I added is a source of royalty free music (no different to the three existing links already there). If you think differently, surely this section should be removed? I will agree to disagree regarding the podcast article link although what I will do is create a link from wikipedia to the same article that is posted on ezinearticles.com - surely this can't be considered as a spam link? 86.136.119.232 20:37, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

I've marked Royalty free music with a {{cleanup-spam}} tag, and hopefully someone who's more knowledgeable about the subject will delete inappropriate links. Meanwhile, for Podcast, it is still my opinion that it would still constitute a spam link. (Again, please see WP:EL and WP:SPAM.) However, if the community agrees with you, I can't and I won't stand in the way -- that's why I suggested your posting a comment on Talk:Podcast regarding it. --Nlu (talk) 20:40, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

OK, thanks for your comments 86.136.119.232 21:12, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of Caldari

Greetings, I had recently created the Caldari page, with the intent of expanding it later. I notice that the page is now protected against creation. What rashional is there to not allow the creation of a page for this race, when the other three major races in Eve online Amarr, Gallente and Minmatar each have pages? Fosnez 05:06, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Caldari. Since you closed the deletion discussion for (or speedy-deleted) this article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Fosnez 05:09, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. --Nlu (talk) 07:50, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Smick750

I am interested in your page. Can you tell me how you practise your stated gender neutrality whilst considering them in the singular to be substandard use of the English language? It would appear to me then to be necessary to repeatedly say "him or her". The use of "them" in singular has been accepted into the vernacular and given that it is used effectively to communicate; is it not snobbish to deem it to be substandard use? I would suggest that either your use of the English language is inefficient or else you have put up incorrect attributes on your user page and I suggest you remove them. Your friend Smick750 16:42, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

"He or she." It's standard American legal usage, and it's grammatically correct. --Nlu (talk) 16:44, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

It is also inefficient and not commonly used, as is alot of legal language. I am sorry to bring this up but I just think that people give themselves attributes without thinking about them. I put it to you that either you do not say "he or she" instead of "he" or "they" when referring to a non-specific third party or else you speak an obscure form of politically correct English that has no place in modern society. Are the rest of your attributes to be doubted in the same manner? Your friend Smick750 16:48, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

It is not considered cumbersome in California, at least. --Nlu (talk) 16:49, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Does not mean it is correct or efficient usage though. But I suppose it is California so too much cannot be expeceted. Smick750 16:59, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rhode Island College vandalism

Hi Nlu- 192.133.12.101 is at it again, this time on Departments of France. I saw your name on their talk page as the last one to warn them, and don't know how else to report this stuff. -Eric ^(talk) 21:13, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I am not where I can review this easily. I suggest going to WP:AIV. --Nlu (talk) 02:12, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Guardian Tiger

Hi Nlu! Apparently, User:Guardian Tiger is a sockpuppet of indefinitely blocked user User:RaGnaRoK SepHír0tH to evade his block. Please block this account ASAP. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Certified.Gangsta (talk • contribs)

I am not where I can review this easily. I suggest going to WP:AIV. --Nlu (talk) 02:13, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Can u request a checkuser?--Certified.Gangsta 03:07, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

I have no special privilege there; since you are more familiar with the situation, I think you should file it, as they don't always take my requests anyway. --Nlu (talk) 05:35, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

True, but you're such an experienced and zealous vandal-fighter. I still remember how the PoolGuy incident turned out. I also fear there are other sleeper socks out there, I just caught one more User:Apocalyptic Destroyer. Plus, I really should be outta here (see talkpage). Also, I probably don't know the situation any better than you do except that all users have the same editing pattern, have extensive edits on Bruce Lee and in the same scope, more or less. I hope you can do some investigation about this, please? And maybe take over the case. Thanks--Certified.Gangsta 17:20, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

OK, I'll take a look when I get a chance, but if it's a single article that he/she is obsessed about, perhaps a better thing is to protect the article. I'll see. Thanks. --Nlu (talk) 18:27, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks so much and please do it ASAP. This user possibly owns the biggest sock farm since PoolGuy. On a side note, he isn't just obsessing over one article, he is mass POV pushing in many articles. (that's why he was blocked indef. in the 1st place) Anyway, I choose not to revert his edits and get into an edit war with him 'cause it's just too time-consuming with these vandals. Also, only protecting the article is unfeasible because he is blocked indefinitely on his main account, any other socks should be treated as block-evading purpose. Please block him as soon as you can. Thanks.--Certified.Gangsta 23:14, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

I've looked at it and it's a mess that I can't begin to figure out the ends of. I'd still appreciate it if you filed the RCU, as I wouldn't know where to start, after looking at it. --Nlu (talk) 03:42, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Nlu, there is no evidence of policy violation here, so no rationale for a check other than a hunch. This is a retaliatory request by Certified.Gangsta (talk · contribs). None of the accounts Certified.Gangsta mentioned are blocked. For the record, Certified.Gangsta has been mass POV pushing and edit warring in China/Taiwan related articles. In addition, Certified.Gangsta has vandalized my userpage and a few other userpages without any evidence. [4] See his block log and his contributions for more details. Thanks. Guardian Tiger 21:55, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

As I mentioned, I can't make heads or tails of it, but please do not use sockpuppets -- as you seem to admit that you do -- without a very good reason. See WP:SOCK. Sockpuppetry destroys your credibility. --Nlu (talk) 22:24, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Nlu, I think you should block him without checkuser since his contributions are way too obvious. He even implied he is a sock. Obviously this account User:RaGnaRoK Septir....i can't type that (see above) is a proven sock and has been blocked indefinitely due to policy violations. Any further socks should be treated as ban-evading sockpuppets and block on sight. He has forfeited his right to edit here. The creation of sockpuppets are of course showing a lack of respect for wikipedia regulations.--Certified.Gangsta 02:28, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

There is no implication of any violation of WP:SOCK. Certified.Gangsta (talk · contribs) has no credible evidence of any policy violations. He is using this unjustified accusation to attempt to gain leverage on a massive number of content disputes. See Certified.Gangsta's block log and his contributions for evidence. Guardian Tiger 02:35, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Certified.Gangsta (talk · contribs) is now resorting to censoring and deleting all my comments from his talk page. Could you help take a look at this. See his talk page history. Thanks. Guardian Tiger 03:00, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Users may delete comments from their talk pages unless they're timely warnings. If you believe that his behavior is unreasonable, consider a WP:RFC. --Nlu (talk) 03:44, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Certified.Gangsta has deleted a 3RR warning from his talk page. He is revert warring and gaming the 3RR on Taiwanese American and List of Chinese Americans. He has a history of deleting warnings from his talk page as shown in his block log and his talk page history. Guardian Tiger 04:11, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

As I said, file a WP:RFC. Let the community judge. --Nlu (talk) 05:13, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Nlu, I realized this issue still isn't resolved. Guardian Tiger has indirectly admitted being a ban-evading sockpuppet of User:RaGnaRoK SepHír0tH who was indefinitely blocked. Apparently, the user is going to track my contributions and spam on your talkpage (or wherever I post), so I truly hope this issue will be resolved ASAP. I still like to see you or some other neutral admins get involve with this user (ex: a checkuser) since any of my action will be unfeasible since Guardian will likely track down my contributions and make checkuser request into a chaos, then the request will be most likely rejected.--Certified.Gangsta 01:43, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

The thing is, though, I'm having no luck trying to figure out what's going on in this case (particularly since I've been very busy at work this week and late last week). If you can file the RCU, and if the RCU request is accepted and shows that there is sockpuppetry going on, I'll handle the blocking. But right now, I can't even intelligently file a RCU. --Nlu (talk) 05:40, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Nlu, again Certified.Gangsta has provided no evidence of any policy violations. Could you do something about Certified.Gangsta's continued deleting of comments here? Guardian Tiger 16:21, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

As I mentioned, there's no stated policy against the removal of comments. Removal of warnings is a different matter, but I see this as a dispute that is not obviously something should be warned by warnings. If you believe that his behavior is wrong, again, file a RFC (or WP:RFAr). --Nlu (talk) 17:09, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I was just about to file a checkuser when I noticed someone posted on my talkpage saying a checkuser was previously filed before but unfortunately rejected due to disruption on the checkuser page by this user Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/RevolverOcelotX. I will still appreciate if you file the checkuser if you have time or get another established editor to file it since the evidence is extremely obvious.--Certified.Gangsta 18:38, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

There is no grounds or evidence to file a checkuser. Certified.Gangsta has a history of filing false checkusers as shown in his contributions. Certified.Gangsta (talk · contribs) is repeatedly vandalizing my userpage after the final warning (he deleted the warning). Guardian Tiger 19:03, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Whether there is grounds for a Checkuser is not for you to decide; the admins with Checkuser privilege (which I am not one) will make that determination. If Certified.Gangsta files a RCU, interfering with that request (other than in the ways of a properly-worded objection) will be construed as vandalism and will draw a block or other sanctions. The admins with Checkuser privilege don't exercise that privilege lightly; if they believe that there is no good cause, they'll reject the request without interference from you. Certified.Gangsta, again, as I said, I do not have sufficient knowledge or investigative time right now to be at all intelligently file a RCU. If you want one, you should file one and alert me or other admins as to improper disruption of that request. --Nlu (talk) 19:10, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

In any case, guys, please stop fighting it out here on my talk page. I've made my position abundantly clear. Whatever requests you guys want to make should really be made by yourselfs; just throwing accusations and rhetoric around isn't going to accomplish a thing. The dispute resolution process exists for a reason. Utilize it. --Nlu (talk) 19:12, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

There is no "improper disruption" at any of the RCU Certified.Gangsta mentioned. Certified.Gangsta has blatantly VANDALIZED my userpage MULTIPLE times as shown by the diffs above. Is there anything that can be done about this vandalism? Guardian Tiger 19:20, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

It does not look like blatant vandalism. Again, as I said, file a RFC or RFAr if you want to. --Nlu (talk) 19:37, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Can I jump in here? I would strongly advise against an RfC unless two users (not just Guardian Tiger) are prepared to sign (and to back up with diffs) a statement that they both made an effort to sort out the problem, and that the editor who is the subject of the RfC continued with the problematic behaviour after they had both tried resolve the problem. You can't file an RfC just because you think the behaviour is bad and tried to resolve the matter, and others thought (or didn't think) it was bad but did not try to sort it out. An RfC certified by one person (or by two people who cannot both show evidence of their efforts to solve the problem) will be deleted even if it's endorsed by five hundred. And an RfAr will almost certainly be rejected if there has been no RfC. I suggest the two editors try to stay away from each other's pages. Grandad 00:10, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Whenever I have a dispute with this user, he will stalk me whenever I go making "ME" and him belong to the same category. This is unfortunate. Nlu, I did what you said and filed a checkuser but I was right, he did make more personal attacks toward me on the checkuser page. [[5]] That is exactly the reason why I wanted an established user to file the checkuser. People on checkuser will think both me and him are trouble users. Anyway, I'm outta herre.--Certified.Gangsta 01:27, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Certified.Gangsta has made false accusations of "personal attacks" of which there are none. If anybody is stalking, it is Certified.Gangsta. He mass reverts every edits I have made to China/Taiwan-related articles and a look through his contributions will prove this. See this edit where Certified.Gangsta abuse the edit summary but was later reverted by another user. Most of Certified.Gangsta's edits are against the consensus and it is not one person Certified.Gangsta is reverting against for a single matter, rather it is multiple editors as shown in this page history. Guardian Tiger 15:49, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Folks, as I have mentioned already, it's not that I don't care about the matter, it's that I am hopeless unable to figure it out who did what to whom, &c. Meanwhile, please stop making my talk page a battleground. --Nlu (talk) 16:01, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Dear Hunter Deletion

I do not understand how you consider yourself important enough to justify the deletion of an article about a band with an amazing pedigree, a devoted fan base, and an endless potential. The Dear Hunter has already created and released two albums worth of music, in their Ms. Leading Demos (which don't sound like demos at all believe me) and the "The Lake South, The River North EP." The Lake South, The River North has received stellar reviews including 5 stars from Aleternative Press magazine, the biggest magazine for young rock music in America.

In addition, the band has been fleshed out with members, and is almost finished with a brand new LP and a book that goes along with it. The Dear Hunter obviously has a very secure grip on its future, and as a result of Casey's involvement in The Receiving End of Sirens (A band that could break out into something huge with the release of its second major album) it has a large devoted fan base already.

Pardon my ethnocentricity, but for some reason I feel like this article could be more relevant/justifiable in today's age than...

   * Yuwen Hu (new articleexpansion)
   * Emperor Wu of Northern Zhou (new articleexpansion)
   * Yuwen Xian (new article)
   * Weichi Jiong (new article)
   * Wei Xiaokuan (new article)
   * Emperor Ming of Western Liang (expansion)
   * Emperor Xuan of Chen (new articleexpansion)
   * Wu Mingche (new article)
   * Gao Wei (new articleexpansion)
   * Consort Feng Xiaolian (new article)
   * Zu Ting (new articleexpansion)
   * Lu Lingxuan (new article)
   * Mu Tipo (new article)
   * Han Zhangluan (new article)
   * Gao Anagong (new article)
   * Gao Yanzong (new article)
   * Gao Heng (new article)

Even if you disagree, I would like to know how you justify its deletion. I have seen many wiki entries of less promising / known bands.

Please let me know your thoughts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Striderider (talk • contribs)

If you want to argue that it should be kept, argue in the proper forum -- that is, the AfD -- not here, particularly not using strawman arguments. --Nlu (talk) 02:11, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of Terapad.com link from blogging software

Please explain why you deleted the link to the free hosted blogging service Terapad.com and left all the other links to identical software. You must be mistaken. Stephantual 12:11, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

I do not believe the link complies with WP:SPAM and WP:EL. The fact that there are other inappropriate links on the page (and I've requested others to help with a general clean up by adding a {{cleanup-spam}} tag) is not a defense to adding even more inappropriate links. --Nlu (talk) 12:14, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for replying. I've just read WP:SPAM and WP:EL, and it looks to me like it's perfectly compliant with Wikipedia standards. It was pointing at a NPOV article (Terapad), just like similar services like Typepad or hosted Wordpress. I don't feel like playing the 3 revert rule game, so could we please agree to put the link back? Thanks. (edit: sorry forgot to sign) Stephantual 12:24, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

If you're threatening to be disruptive, such threats will be viewed negatively and may result in a block notwithstanding a technical non-violation of 3RR. See WP:3RR. I've just looked at Terapad; I do not believe that the article sufficiently asserts or shows its notability, and I'll be nominating it for deletion briefly. In any case, a link to Terapad may be OK for now, but don't make it a literal link by adding the .com. Of course, since Wikipedia is ruled by community consensus, if you can persuade the community that I'm wrong by making an appropriate disucssion on Talk:Weblog software, there's nothing I can do about it. --Nlu (talk) 12:28, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't threatening anything, but hey, I'll add the link back and we can discuss it on the talk page with the others. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephantual (talk • contribs)

[edit] dont kick me out

dont kick me out for "vandalizing" my own talk page. I AM ODST!!!!!!! I just didnt sign in. 66.214.242.93 08:20, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Goguryeo is not "your" own talk page. --Nlu (talk) 13:27, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] deleted external link from Chinese language page

Why did you revert my edit to the Chinese history page? I had not yet registered so it was made by 24.107.73.165. Doesn't it fit under "Resources for students of Chinese"?

edit: On reviewing some Wikipedia rules I can see why you reverted it. Would it be acceptable to you to put it back on the page at the bottom of the list, rather than the top? It is a valid resource, I just did not know that particular rule. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkmuller (talk • contribs)

In my opinion, no -- but Wikipedia is ruled by consensus. If you can convince the community that it is a good thing (by discussing it on the talk page of the article in question), be my guest. --Nlu (talk) 05:48, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ROC and PRC barnstars

Hi,

I came to your page 'cause you gave a generic BoNM barnstar to Abstrakt for China-related articles. I also saw generic barnstars for China-related articles on your user/talk pages. I might make BoNM barnstars for China and Taiwan — it's kinda fun, and perhaps useful. Drop me a line if you have questions/objections.

--Ling.Nut 16:52, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I'd appreciate that. Being utterly unartistic, I usually fail miserably at such projects, so I'm happy when other people do it. :-) --Nlu (talk) 18:02, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Sometimes people argue about such things, so I have a plan: I'm gonna make several different options, and post them on the discussion boards of the relevant wikiprojects. Actually, this involves making two barnstar templates and several images for each country/nation/state/political entity or whatever the correct term is..

Other people can hash out what they like best. All they'll have to do is make an extremely trivial edit to the relevant template to select the image option they like the best.

I dunno how much I'll get done today. I've already finished one PRC BoNM option, but wanna make 4 or 5 more.

Later --Ling.Nut 18:39, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

• OK, PRC done. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject China#Barnstar of national Merit: PRC --Ling.Nut 20:48, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I would call it the PRC Barnstar of National Merit, to avoid POVness. --Nlu (talk) 20:51, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

• Ack. POVness has been cleansed away, but leaves the China template as a redirect to the PRC one. Well. Whatever. Thanks! --Ling.Nut 21:01, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Looks good. Thanks. --Nlu (talk) 21:11, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

(undent) ROC was quite difficult; only made one. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Taiwan#ROC Barnstar of National Merit. Later --Ling.Nut 22:38, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Ha! Thanks :-) It was fun. I hope it is useful. Later! --Ling.Nut 23:31, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

New version on talkpage. --Ling.Nut 13:19, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

OK, I know this is gonna sound really, really weenie, but here goes: I have just scaled back on my Wikipedia participation 'cause I was among those enduring biting insults for their editorial style. I am not in the mood for more arguments. :-) So if you wanna re-add "National" to the awards, then go for it. You argue with the yammerheads, should any appear (in that case, you should add the two awards to your watchlist). I manually edited several instances where the award was subst on a page (the TW talkpage, my user page, etc.). You can do what you want with those, too. :-) Sound fair? --Ling.Nut 16:57, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

OK. :-) :-( --Nlu (talk) 17:06, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

(undent). Yeah. Sorry about not being willing to take up the fight. I'm all used up in the argument-department. Maybe a couple months from now I'll feel differently. :-) BTW, you didn't need my permission to change it. Once it's on WP, it belongs to everyone. :-) --Ling.Nut 17:13, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

 :-) Well, I still thought that you should be consulted... --Nlu (talk) 17:17, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Cool. Let me know if there's anything else I can do. I plan to return to Taiwan as soon as I get my PhD. --Ling.Nut 17:19, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Deleting the PRC barnstar and relevant images. --Ling.Nut 16:49, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to hear about the objections there... Good luck with your endeavors. Keep in touch. --Nlu (talk) 19:31, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chinese four-idiom page

Hi, Why did you delete the Chinese idiom dictionary link? Don't you think with it's 30 000 entries and lots of english translations it's a great resource? Chengyu's dic —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.224.203.42 (talk • contribs)

I do not believe that it complies with WP:EL and WP:SPAM. If you disagree, you are free to discuss it on the appropriate talk page to see if the community shares your feeling. --Nlu (talk) 22:26, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] In recognition

		The Purple Star
		Given in recognition for having one of the most vandalised user pages. Timrollpickering 03:33, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! --Nlu (talk) 06:43, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Threats against Smick750

You have written: "Care to justify this? The reason why I warned The dert is due to the entire edit history, which gives me absolutely no confidence in the factual accuracy of any of his posts. And you are hardly in a position to "verify" his/her edits after what you did. --Nlu (talk) 16:30, 7 January 2007 (UTC)"

I do not believe I have to justify anything that I have not written. I did not even verify the monkey fact based on my opinion alone. I provided a web link and also details about monkeys in Gibraltar. These both are easily verifiable. You also say "after what you did". What is it that I have done? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smick750 (talk • contribs)

After your sockpuppetry. If you want to file a WP:RFC, go ahead. Otherwise, any further argument regarding my warning against you will be construed as disruptive harassment and be dealt with as such. --Nlu (talk) 13:33, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I really wish you wouldn't be so confrontational. I do not want you to think that I am harrassing you. The truth is that I value wikipedia as a resource but I have explained the reason for my sockpuppetry and I think it is not such a bad one. Your friend, Smick750 14:36, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Need admin assistance

Sorry to bother you but I was wondering if you had time to deal with a recurring IP vandal. 68.80.30.39 (talk · contribs) is turning into a repetative "wiki-thorn". Following his last 48 hour block(issued by you) the user returned to vandalise the same series of pages that got him blocked in the first place. Myself, and another user, reported the IP to AiV but both times no action was taken. The user has returned yet again this evening. From past experience I didn't bother with an AiV report and thought that I would circumvent that route and come directly to you.(since you have previous experience with the IP) If you can spare a minute could you review the IP's activities(ignoring warnings, dialogue, concensus, policy...etc) and determine if anything can/should be done. Much appreciated. Cheers and take care. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 01:43, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

These are not obvious vandalism, and therefore, since I do not know enough about the subject matter, I must say that I really don't feel comfortable issuing a block right now. You can consider filing a WP:RFC. --Nlu (talk) 02:13, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] perhaps you can help me...

Perhaps a couple months ago I requested help from a Chinese translator on Wikipedia, but he/she never came through with the help. However, I have since realized that I don't really need full translation! I need someone with high proficiency in writing Traditional Chinese characters to make minor modifications to an existing document. Perhaps you can help, or you may know someone who can.

There is an image on Taiwanese aborigines that is copyrighted to the Taiwanese Aboriginal Park Commission, or some similarly named agency. I have an email address. I would like for someone to find a GFDL request letter on the Chinese wiki (if they don't have traditional characters.. maybe converting simplified into traditional won't be so very difficult..) and make minor alterations to it. Basically the alterations would just be to give the name of the image, the URL where I found it, blah blah blah.

Do you know someone who could do that? I would be deeply grateful! --Ling.Nut 04:13, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

PS - but if that's a lot of trouble, I suppose I can use the previous image. It wasn't quite as nice, but it was GFDL. Besides, I have a few ideas about how I can alter it... --Ling.Nut 04:43, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

I am not sure what exactly you want. If you want to write a message to them, as long as it's not too long, I can translate it into traditional Chinese. Is that what you're asking for? --Nlu (talk) 05:11, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

(undent). No that's not it. That's what I asked the other person to do, but the message was long, and I now think there's an easier way. The easier way is to go to the Chinese Wikipedia (is there a Taiwanese Wikipedia too?), find an existing GFDL request letter, modify it slightly to fit my request, and email that one. :-) --Ling.Nut 09:35, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

There's no Taiwanese Wikipedia -- the Chinese Wikipedia is "one encyclopedia, three systems." :-) I'll see if there is such a thing tomorrow, when I'll have more time. --Nlu (talk) 14:16, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

I can't find one so far (but I haven't had a whole lot of time to look). However, if it's the map you're referring to, it is my opinion that it's fair use. --Nlu (talk) 17:12, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Nationalist

Could User:Nationalist possibly be a sockpuppet of User:Heqong?--Certified.Gangsta 18:20, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

It's always possible but I find it unlikely since Heqong was not blocked. --Nlu (talk) 19:11, 10 January 2007 (UTC)