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[edit] Article Title Incorrect
This page title is wrong. Someone with privledges should fix it. It should be titled "Nissan Motors" or "Nissan Motor Co", not Nissan. A new page titled "Nissan" should contain the paragraph below, with links to Nissan Group companies, such as Nissan Motors, Nissan Diesel, etc.
- Agreed. It should be "Nissan Motor Co., Ltd." as that is the name in many books, brochures -- and also stated on their current web page http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/index.html. It was never named "Nissan Motors" to my knowledge. - Ddgonzal 06:26, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
official name is a Nissan Motor, not a Nissan Motor's'--Vnoww 07:56, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
(nichiyo-kai) was one of Japan's most powerful business grouping, called keiretsu, founded by Yoshisuke Aikawa. [1] It's core business was real estate and insurance, with hundreds of member companies, including fisheries, mining, and is affiliated with Hitachi companies. Although Nissan was primarily known for its car manufacturing outside of Japan, Nissan Motors was a comparatively small side business compared to its core real estate business, until the real estate crash of early 1990's, which dealt a devastating blow to the Nissan Group. Nissan Motors (Nissan Jidosha KK) successful turnaround was attributed by CEO Carlos Ghosn to his ability to detach from Nissan keiretsu connections. Nissan is short for Nippon Sangyo, which literally means "Made in Japan".
[edit] Blathering
"The Skyline gets a mention of course. Ho-hum. Most overrated car in the history of automobiles." hello it was the first to beat the 8 second barrier in the nuriberg although unofficially. the most overrated car is the Mclaren f1. The car is only fast down the strip where as suck in cornering a lotus can beat it.It's overated because of it's ingenious idea of using RWD drive bias while the benefit of 4wd. 4wd is better around the corner but handling wise RWD is mostly prefer and is better and you can induce oversteer. And nissan skyline utilized the best of both drive system. Kind of similiar to the porsche 911 awd but nissan skyline is mostly rwd bias. -digitalzombie
The Skyline gets a mention of course. Ho-hum. Most overrated car in the history of automobiles. 192.197.71.189 17:30, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- The Skyline GT-R is Nissan's second most notable performance car line, second to the Z-car (and one could argue the Z-car is the overrated one, as it ceased to be a focused performance car at some point in the 1970s). — AKADriver ☎ 20:07, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Datsun Name
As for Datsun meaning "Fast Bunny", this is probably due to the Japanese word DAT (as mentioned elsewhere, it was taken from the initials of the three initial founders) translates as "Hare" Vincethod 09:13, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
Datsun was name after three japanese people or so. DAT is actually an acronym of name (i read it somewhere). Some people translate the datsun name as fast bunny. They started to use nissan in 90s. 1970s the imported the 240z. the 1985 300zx til late 80s. So i'm guessing they chose nissan in the 90s because 1991 they have a nissan 300zx fairlady. I'm confused why they are 3rd japanese auto maker. That is wrong they are the 2nd largest japanese auto maker in the world. HOnda is the 2nd largest japanese auto maker In USA compare to nissan. -digitalzombie
- They used Nissan in 1934. The car was called Datsun, never the company. The Datsun brand name was discontinued circa 1983. For details, see the wiki article Datsun - Ddgonzal 06:26, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm confused. If the company has been called Nissan since the 1930s, why were their cars known as "Datsun" in the United States until the 1970s or '80s? Does anyone know exactly when Datsuns first started getting called Nissans in America? The article never even uses the word "Datsun", it just says it was first DATSON and then the second syllable was changed to "sun". --Angr/tɔk tə mi 17:38, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
- The article should make this clearer, but it is explained in the text. The company name was originally DAT Automobile Manufacturing Co., then just Automobile Manufacturing Co. in 1933, then Nissan Motor Co. Ltd. in 1934.
- Datsun was the name of DAT's first product (and thus Nissan Automobile's first product); the name Datsun survived outside Japan as the brand name of Nissan's entire automobile lineup until 1982 (however the name of the company remained Nissan Motor Co. Ltd.). — AKADriver ☎ 19:32, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- The name Datsun survived inside Japan as well. The Datsun brand name was discontinued in Japan circa 1983. For details, see the wiki article Datsun - Ddgonzal 06:26, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
To answer the above question, Datsun was the marketing name in the US for Nissan. It was used because it was thought of as more Western (maybe German), and easier to say for Westerners. In Japan, from the beginning, all cars were badged Nissan.
- Absolute rubbish on every point. The car was called Datsun in Japan. Even when (26 years later) they first named a car "Nissan", most of their Japanese cars continued to use the brand name Datsun until the early 80s. They used the name Nissan in 1959 in America when they introduced the first cars. The US company was named "Nissan Motor Corporation in U.S.A.", chartered September 28, 1960 in California, USA. See John B. Rae book, page 47 ISBN 0-07-05112-8. See Datsun for more details on the brand name. - Ddgonzal 06:26, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
- There is no official history for the use of "Datsun" outside Japan from Nissan, but I'd guess it has to do with the dissolution of the zaibatsu. The zaibatsu (of which Nissan was one) were supported by the Japanese but considered anticompetitive by the Allied occupation. Nissan's foreign partners would have preferred a non-zaibatsu brand name. "Datsun" did remain in use in Japan for the truck line (including the 620, 720, on up to the modern Frontier).
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- That's right -- it is a "guess". Not factual information. For example, The Datsun brand name was used in Japan for cars too long after "the dissolution of the zaibatsu" in 1946. I have at my desk books from from the 1970s, published by Nissan Motor Co., Ltd. (Tokyo Japan) -- in Japanese, for Japan market cars -- and these books say "Datsun" on the cover - Ddgonzal 06:39, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Nissan Computer Corporation
No mention of Nissan Computer in the article? It doesn't even have an article...
Shouldn't this be mentioned somewhere here? Nissan Motor vs. Nissan Computer—Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.104.190.26 (talk • contribs)
- And signing talk posts is awesome! If you want nissan computer in here best to find a link not from their own site. Without outside citation it seems simply like self-important babble on the part of this nissan computer company to me.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 04:14, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merge is Irrelevent
Are we really debating over moving one sentence into this article? Give me a break. --Hezzy 22:41, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] First non-Japanese President?
"Carlos Ghosn became the president, the first non-Japanese person to run a Japanese car company. (Similarly an American, Mark Fields turned Mazda around after Ford Motor Company increased its stake to 33 percent. Mitsubishi was run by a German, Rolf Eckrodt)."
The above quote has been in the article in one form or another since November 2002. I was under the impression that the first non-Japanese to run a (major) Japanese company was Henry Wallace of Mazda in 1997, two years before Ghosn. Either way, the above quote seems inaccurate and contradictory. I'm being bold and deleting it, but if you disagree, please let me know. -- DeLarge 12:01, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
^^^ The other companies did not have a non japanese president. They may have had a controlling party, like in Mazdas case, but they still remained to have a japanese president.
- Henry Wallace was president of Mazda. Did you mean chairman? --DeLarge 08:06, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Glossarial theory in engine of Nissan Motor Co
Aside from being in dire need of translation to English, I can't find any external references to support this entire paragraph. The Nissan PLSMA engine? The Toyota LASRE engine? The only Google hits I'm getting are to pages reproducing this (complete with misspellings). I'm going to wipe this, if for no other reason than because it's duplicated on the List of Nissan engines page as well, where it's certainly more appropriate. However, I'm going to tag that for cleanup/deletion as well unless someone can provide external verification. --DeLarge 07:28, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Controlled by Renault
That's not true I work for nissan and is by no means controlled by Renault
- People are talking about a corporation control, not as in Renault employees are standing on the Nissan assembly line telling you what to do. For full details, see Nissan's own web site. Nissan calls it an "Alliance". But the Nissan site says Nissan owned 15% of Renault while "2002 Mar 1, Renault increases its stake in Nissan to 44.4%". 44.4% is a controlling interest -- unless one party owns more of a companys shares than that. see http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/COMPANY/ALLIANCE/HISTORY/index.html (retrieved July 3, 2007)
[edit] Should there be a section on Office locations?
There is a Manufacturing locations section but not a section for other offices, like Nissan Design offices? —Christopher Mann McKay 19:08, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Full Size Van
Recently there has been some rumors that Nissan will introduce a Full Size Van for the North American Market to compete with Ford & GM who have not made much upgrades in the past 10 years. According to some reports Nissan is thinking very much of introducing such a van for todays buyer such as power sliding doors, bucket & reclining seats/split benches with head rests for all passengers, and much more. Many Ford and GM van owners say that because there is no competition in the market, and their voices are not being heard. A Full Size Nissan Van with features and options like the Quest will very likely be a hit and a top seller in the North American market.
- This is an encyclopedia, is it an appropriate place for rumours? - --Ddgonzal 03:21, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Nissan Urvan
I have an old Urvan as a farm vehicle, though we have had it since new back in the 1980s. The exterior is silver with a mostly purple/blue decal/pinstripe running the length of the body. It seats nine (in 3 rows of 3), and has the original tan fabric interior. It looks nothing like any of the Nissan Caravans featured in the Nissan Caravan article.
When we bought it the dealership was changing over from being called Datsun, to Nissan, but the vehicle is badged as a Nissan Urvan.
I have found these three other articles (Datsun Urvan, Nissan Vanette and Nissan Van C22 (Vanette)), but I am unsure of the connections between the different car models. The latter two articles are up for merge.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, in clearing up the confusion/making the articles clearer.
I've also included this post on the Nissan Caravan discussion page Tinkstar1985 05:24, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Mysterious Datsun / Mysterious Nissan
I've uncovered a some old pictures from the 1970s in the loft. One of them might grace an article on the appropriate model. Trouble is, I don't know what it is. Although the picture was taken in Cambridge, England, I'm >99% sure that it is of a model we never 'officially' saw in Europe - at least not in my corner of Europe. But IF anyone knows what it is, THEN it might grace the appropriate article. Then again ... maybe not. Your call. But thanks (if you can and will) for sharing any relevent thoughts. Regards Charles01 13:39, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
PS - I have a dozen other Datsun pics I'm not sure about, so if you help me with this one I may come back for a second grab. Then again, most of the others are more problematic because (1) they are mostly of models that I know were differently branded and marketed in different continents and (2) some of them look like some of the others of them, whereas I think the picture accompanying this para is of a relatively unusual / distinguished looking model.
- That is an S110 model, sold in the US as a Datsun 200SX and in Japan as the Sivia or Gazelle depending on the version. It was the third generation of Silvia after the CSP311 (first gen) and the S10 (second gen). They were not sold in the UK but we did get it's immeadiate sucessor, the Nissan Silvia ZX turbo (S12 model). Regards --Ratdat (talk) 19:59, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Austins under Nissan
Nissan Never made Austin Sevens. Period. This if an urban legend that has no factual basis whatsoever so what on earth is it doing on this page? This is WHY stuff like this find it's way into official histories. Gah!
