Talk:Niqāb
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[edit] Irrelevant
The following paragraph isn't relevant enough to warrant this much of a mention in the beginning of the article. It's relevance at all is questionable since it comes from a Non-Muslim group, the man founded it claimed to be a Messenger of God which violates the fundamental Muslim belief that the Prophet Muhammad pbuh was the last messenger of God. The posting is also too general to be used for an encyclopedic article on the Niqab and should remain in the article on the hijab, which it already is. I'm deleting it but if anyone disagrees and wishes to keep it, it should be kept to a one-liner on a section titled "criticisms of the niqab."
"There is a Muslim group known as Submitters (English for Muslims), who follow the Quran Alone, and argue that the Quran makes no mention or obligation for women to cover their heads. The minimum requirements in the Quran in terms of dress for women, is to cover their chests Quran 24:30-31, and lengthen their garments Quran 33:59. They argue that tyrannical Arab traditions have given a false impression that a woman must be covered from head to toe, and such is not a Quranic or Islamic dress. This belief of establishing Islamic practices based on the Quran Alone, was made popular by Rashad Khalifa, a man who claimed to be God's Messenger of the Covenant, prophesized in the Quran: Quran 3:81 and Quran 33:7." --Moah (talk) 00:24, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] older entries
Is this garment the same as a yashmak - see also [1]? Pcb21| Pete 19:37, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
For more than a year now, this article has contained the phrasing
- contrary to popular belief, and probably against what some people would hope, the Burqah's usage is limited solely to Afghanistan and certain area of Pakistan
which is certainly not NPOV. I have edited it. 168.12.253.82 20:16, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
I removed "Some prostitutes in Islamic countries also use niqāb as a way of hiding their identity when they come or go to their job" because of a lack of citation. I searched for niqab and prostitute online and couldn't find any sources to support this. The Radio Star 21:06, 19 July 2006 (UTC) -Alright, I found a source, so I re-entered it with a citation. The Radio Star 08:33, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
To be criminalised in Holland!
This is a great article! Given the current firestorm of controversy over wearing the niqab, it's really refreshing to see how neutral and informative this is.Ninquerinquar 02:26, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Template
I removed Template:Fiqh-Eti and Template:Islamicdress because they make editing and reading the article more difficult without providing any navigational value which cannot be found in the text itself. --Wasted Sapience 04:47, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Niqāb in Islam should be checked by an expert
It's poor article from technical viewpoint. For example the questionable translation for the verse of Qur'an Oh Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (Ahzab 59) has been used while in Arabic it doesn't explicitly means "all over their bodies" . It's one of possible interpretation of this verse. Furthermore it's not clear which madhāhab recommends it and which one forbade it. Therefor I added the {{expert}} in that part.--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 19:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
I agree that it would be nice to see some more material on the translation of the crucial passage - I am by no means an expert and would welcome a comparison of the differing translations if someone feels competent to do it. Helen-Eva 09:52, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Quoting the Quran
I removed some commentary from inside the quotation marks of the Muhammad quote, as the commentary just reflects the writers opinion. Putting it inside a quotation from Muhammad makes it seem like the authors comment comes from Muhammad. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.144.159.165 (talk) 04:42, 29 April 2007 (UTC).
[edit] POV
The statement tht the Hadith support the Niqab is contraversial, and only backed up here with a link (^ Niqab in Light of the Quran and Hadith Ib) which is a poor source. That site quotes the Quran then adds opinion in and makes it look like a quotation, it's very misleding and not a reliable source at all.
- I agree. The article ignores the fact that there are many interpretations and traditions in Islam (from Sunni to Shia, from Salafism to Sufism, from Bosnia, Albania and Kyrgyzstan to Saudi Arabia, Morocco and Afghanistan) and shows just the interpretation that is more common in Arabic peninsula and sadly it’s the nowadays stereotype of Islam in many Western (mainly American) eyes.
[edit] GA Failed
Please see the "To do" box above. --Aminz 05:23, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
