User talk:NipponBill

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[edit] Nice work...

On Da Vinci and the roller chain. It's intereseting stuff, thanks for adding it. Tom Harrison Talk 13:53, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia!!!

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[edit] Please do not delete content from wikipedia without citing a valid reason

Hello nippon, thank you for contributing to wikipedia. Please note that you cannot delete content from articles because "you don't feel" it should be there. I am specifically referring to the recent edit in web crawler article. Please understand that its more difficult to create content than delete it. I am not an inclusionist, and I understand that you have done some very nice work with some articles, but please ensure that when you delete someting, you clearly cite the WikiPolicy(WP) that the content violates before deleting it. thanks, Amit 17:11, 29 May 2007 (UTC) Bold text

[edit] Hello again Nippon

I noticed that you have put two reasons to remove the data from web crawler article..

  • References - not referenced - these links violate WP:NPOV as they are User:Amitsoni9999's personal sites. This rule does not apply, becuase I did not write the "web crawler" article! Had I written that article and then added references from my own websites, it would have violated this rule. Can you please restore the content what you removed under this rule ?
  • Examples of Web crawlers - Zitku was deleted as not notable. It also does not meet the criteria of this list. - Please note that this rule does NOT apply either, becuase the article's subject is NOT zitku. The notability guideline that you wrote there, applies to the "subject of the article". Can you please restore the content of the article that your removed under this rule ?

Once again, please do not feel discouraged by this, I KNOW, you are doing a great job with other articles. Thank you. Amit 14:55, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Here's an expansion of the reasoning behind these edits:
  • The Examples of Web crawlers list is prefaced by this text:

    The following is a list of published crawler architectures for general-purpose crawlers (excluding focused Web crawlers)

Does Zitku fit this description? Is Zitku published? Is it truly general purpose or is it a focused Web crawler? Please show where it meets all of these criteria.
  • Notability - Zitku is an admittedly Alpha product. Why should a product in its testing phase be included in a list of well-known, established, and notable crawlers such as WebCrawler, WWW Worm, or even Googlebot? It simply doesn't fit. It's like including a paper cup of water in a list of great oceans of the planet. If it were established or notable then I doubt it would have stuck out.
    • Nippon, I do not know how you define "Well-known" and how is your personal preference of including only "well-known" content in wikipedia justifies vandalism of wikipedia content that meets its notability criteria. If you find that a content is not notable, please read the notability guidelines on what you can do and cannot do. I couldnt find "delete the content that you don't find notable" in that page. I will request you once again to follow the wikipedia guidelines and not take this personally. If you take a closer look at the history of the web crawler article you will notice that the section on Zitku was last modified by an Administrator at Wikipedia and not me.The administrator also happens to be the person who "removed the explicit article on zitku and decided that this content better off merged with the web crawler article as compared to a separate article.
    • No wikipedia policy presently prohibits products in their alpha or beta versions. Gmail is a fine example of a notable beta product. Google bot is another webcrawler whose reference link(one of the BEST links on the page), was written by the authors themselves. Please follow wikipedia guidelines on notability and references. Popularity is the same thing as notability.Amit 09:30, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
  • References - not referenced: The references section of an article refers to sources used to back up main points of the article. If I deleted the Zitku mention in the main body of the article then it should follow that I delete the accompanying references at the bottom of the page.
  • WP:NPOV - As noted on User_talk:Amitsoni9999 your account shows repeated addition of mentions of your company and products. There is a singularity of purpose shown here. After a while it starts to look like you're just advertising. If you were contributing general knowledge about web crawlers or related technology that would be one thing. Instead you seem to be repeatedly adding links and mentions of Zitku (or your employer). You are obviously an interested party and so your objectivity comes into question.
NipponBill 09:58, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
    • Nippon, my friend, wikipedia is governed by its guidelines, NOT gut feelings of individuals. Please follow the guidelines and if you feel there are loopholes in them, then participate with us on the discussion pages to improve those guidelines. Amit 09:30, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
    • If you read the discussions carefully. Zitku is a not a product of my company. I am not employed by Zitku. I am employed by Catabatic, and zitku is a delhi university funded project. Please do not find excuses to delete content from wikipedia only because you haven't heard about them. Please follow wikipedia guidelines or participate in the discussion pages to debate on changing the guidelines. thank you. Amit 09:30, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
You haven't bothered to explain why Zitku belongs in the list. I don't see it meeting any of the criteria that preface the list in question. I even quoted the criteria for your reference. All of the points after that were really supplemental to my edit. NipponBill 01:03, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

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Please let me know if you have any questions, and thank you for helping out! ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 00:57, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] SLP

I am looking for help on writing my article on Systematic Layout Planning. Could you Provide some feedback. My article is its early stages. I would appreciate some input. Thanks Jjpo0903 01:55, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] SEOENGBot

Please explain why you keep insisting that SEOENGBot does not belong on the web crawler entry. Seoeng (talk) 12:11, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

In my edit I was suggesting that you discuss this on the respective page's Talk page. Sorry for not making that clear.
However, as you asked here you'll see that I've edited other crawlers for a similar reason. The Examples of Web crawlers list is prefaced by this text:

The following is a list of published crawler architectures for general-purpose crawlers (excluding focused Web crawlers)

Does SEOENGBot fit this description? Is SEOENGBot published? Is it truly general purpose or is it a focused Web crawler? Please show where it meets all of these criteria on the Web crawler Talk page. That particular list on that page is not simply a laundry list of all crawlers. If SEOENGBot meets the criteria that preface the list then just let us know.NipponBill (talk) 00:30, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Your answers have been provided in the appropriate Talk page.Seoeng (talk) 04:47, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Please review the respective page's Talk page and then add to 'Examples of Web Crawlers' if the explanation suffices.Seoeng (talk) 18:14, 8 June 2008 (UTC)