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[edit] Survival Tips

Hi Nileena, I see that you had a user box saying that you wish to become an administrator one day. You may consider the following. The wikipedia community is a community of aspirants. So the competition is tough. If you want to become one you should consider these.

1. All the policies can be violated resorting to common sense. But remember that common sense is not common. So while using common sense, use the uncommon; the sense of big brothers.

2. In case you notice something against your common sense, as an aspirant, what you should do is to go on editing new articles. Never question the big brother. Aspirants should pretend not to have noticed anything.

3. Edit count is important. Go on editing. Best is one word during one edit. Many here consider editors with higher edit count superior.

4. Sock-puppets are Okay. But be careful that you are not voting against the big brothers. (If you had voted to delete S. Jithesh, no one would have bothered). Also take care that your language does not betray you.

5. Barn stars are not sufficient. Be specific while praising. Oh your edit here was fantastic, etc. It helps. After all who is here to help the African child?

Dakshayani 07:55, 4 November 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Administrators' Noticeboard

Hi, Nileena. I had to revert an edit you made to the Administrators' Noticeboard. Your edit accidentally wiped out many comments from others. It seemed to return the article to a version of several days ago. I can only advise you to try adding the message again. Thanks, Aecis Dancing to electro-pop like a robot from 1984. 20:21, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New contributions

You can announce new articles at it's new section on the India noticeboard. If they have an interesting fact, you can nomininate the article at WP:DYK and have them appear on the mainpage. -- Ganeshk (talk) 05:00, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] S. Jithesh

Hi! We've no doubt that S. Jithesh exists. The question is whether he is notable enough to deserve an article on Wikipedia.

If you feel that the S. Jithesh article passes WP:V and WP:BIO, I will suggest that you start writing the article in your user space: User:Nileena joseph/S. Jithesh. When the article becomes good enough to pass WP:V and WP:BIO, it can be moved to article namespace.

While creating the article, ask yourself following questions: Is he associated with notable publication? Have his cartoons caused a major impact? Have his cartoons caused a political controversy? Has he won some award? etc. And more importantly, is there any way in which others can verify answers to above questions. In my opinion, being part of an exhibition or appearing on a TV show doesn't make a person notable enough.

You can request unprotection at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection.

Image:News cutting exhi new.jpg proves that there was an exhibition of cartoons/caricatures by S. Jithesh. But it doesn't indicate that he is notable in some way. I can't comment on Image:Malayalam- jeevithath..1.jpg or Image:News paper cutting desa.jpg though, as I don't understand Malayalam. I think you can discuss it with User:Deepujoseph, who is a Keralite. utcursch | talk 12:47, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:VS VALLIATHAN PIC3.jpg)

Thanks for uploading Image:VS VALLIATHAN PIC3.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently specifies that the image is unlicensed for use on Wikipedia and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable under fair use (see our fair use policy).

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[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:News cutting exhi new.jpg)

Thanks for uploading Image:News cutting exhi new.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently specifies that the image is unlicensed for use on Wikipedia and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable under fair use (see our fair use policy).

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[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:News paper cutting desa.jpg)

Thanks for uploading Image:News paper cutting desa.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently specifies that the image is unlicensed for use on Wikipedia and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable under fair use (see our fair use policy).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. — Indon (reply) — 23:27, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:Malayalam- jeevithath..1.jpg)

Thanks for uploading Image:Malayalam- jeevithath..1.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently specifies that the image is unlicensed for use on Wikipedia and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable under fair use (see our fair use policy).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. — Indon (reply) — 23:28, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] S. Jithesh

Hi! I'm not prejudiced. I'm not saying that S. Jithesh doesn't exist or is not famous. The issue is that the article fails WP:V.

Try to look at this issue from others' point of view. Suppose, there is a painter whose works has been displayed in four or five exhibitions. A news article has appeared in two or three newspapers about the exhibition with his photograph. His paintings have been published in a local magazine. Now suppose today a user writes an article about this person on Wikipedia. Should we accept the article? Is this person notable enough to deserve an article in an encyclopedia? There are hundreds of exhibitions organized all over the world everyday. There are thousands of artists, whose work is displayed at these exhibitions. Newspapers publish articles about these exhibitions.

The author of the article says that the painter has not received wide media coverage, because his paintings are controversial. How can we believe it? No! Wikipedia will be full of non-notable biographies, if we allow this. There has to be some evidence. See Wikipedia:Verifiability#Burden_of_evidence: "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material."

We're not being anti-S.Jithesh or anti-Nileena here. We value your contributions very much. Probably you've read my and others' comments at User talk:Srikeit. We have no doubt about you being a genuine user (and not a sockpuppet) and we agree that you've made good contributions to Malayalam-related articles. We just want the article to pass WP:V. Any article that is not verifiable is deleted. This is an official Wikipedia policy, and not our (my/Tintin's/Srikeit's/others') opinion.

If S. Jithesh is indeed notable, some evidence of him being notable should be provided. That's why I suggested that you start writing the article at User:Nileena joseph/S. Jithesh and keep adding the references as you find them. When the article passes WP:V, it can be moved to article space.

If you still feel that I am prejudiced, you can request unprotection at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. utcursch | talk 11:59, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:Sean gorter/Signature shop

Title says all. ~~•Sean•gorter•(T) (P) 13:39, 8 November 2006 (UTC)




Thanks..... Nileena joseph (Talk|Contribs) 15:22, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Very thanks Nileena for wishes. If I am somehow able to help out in some admin work, then please let me know. Regards, Shyam (T/C) 09:16, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Userpage

Thank you for your kind words on my userpage. I am very humbled that you feel this way. I have worked very hard on it, and it feels good to be appreciated of it. If you every need me please don't hesitate to ask. Cheers!--ॐ Seadog ॐ 18:25, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Madhumita datta AfD

I agree with you about "weak delete", but I think the Google link you've cited is the wrong person. It looks like it's the woman who's a Delhi-based environmental activist, and not the Kolkata journalist. I also left a message for the journalist User:Madhumitadatta on her talk page but she hasn't come back yet. --Mereda 08:27, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Google test fallibility

I've always held the view that search engines are not really benchmarks for notability when it comes to encyclopaedias. Because, a phenomenon or an entity, however underreported in the web or elsewhere does not become intrinsically uninteresting for an encyclopaedia. Over and above this, there's this language bias in a google test and this has been already acknowledged at Google_test#Google_bias. There's nothing that stops one from citing a reputed source like Malayala Manorama. Having said that, I feel that the entity becomes notable if it's unique or very different from other members of its class. This holds good if (when the entity is a living being) it has achieved a rare feat or is clearly distinguishable from the general population. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 06:15, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:News_cutting_exhi_new.jpg

Yes it is orphaned, per WP:FAIR. Please read again about uploading images under fair use. Read criterion #9:

Fair use images may be used only in the article namespace. Used outside article space, they are not covered under the fair use doctrine.

I've reverted back the image, unless you used it in the article namespace. — Indon (reply) — 15:59, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Nope. The rule for fair use images is very strict. Why don't use use external links to the image? — Indon (reply) — 16:09, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Then there's now way to show it, unless it is a free image. — Indon (reply) — 16:16, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request

That article was deleted per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/S. Jithesh. Please go to deletion review if you wish to contest the deletion. -- Steel 17:31, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Well tell that to deletion review. -- Steel 17:44, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Kerala wikipedians are discussing this matter in the tak page Talk:S. Jithesh of the deleted article. The administrator deleted this page without considering the opinion of native wikipedians. He was prejudiced. I consider it as an example of administrators abuse of power.  Nileena joseph (Talk|Contribs) 04:13, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Answer

Hiya, to answer your question, I think that the page that you want is WP:RFCU. --Elonka 20:09, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

I almost never vote delete on an India related AfD unless notability is absolutely impossible to establish. I'm quite aware the the Manorama is widely read (especially among overseas Malayali). I also generally ask ppl from the respective state for their input on afd's.Bakaman Bakatalk 00:53, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent request for Checkuser

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[edit] RfA thanks
Thank you for the Support

I'd like to express my huge thanks to you, Nileea joseph, for your support in my recent RfA, which closed with 100% support at 71/0/1. Needless to say, I am very suprised at the huge levels of support I've seen on my RfA, and at the fact that I only had give three answers, unlike many other nominees who have had many, many more questions! I'll be careful with my use of the tools, and invite you to tell me off if I do something wrong! Thanks, Martinp23 14:57, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your support!

A week ago I nominated myself, hoping to be able to help Wikipedia as an administrator as much as a WikiGnome. I am very glad many others shared my thoughts, including you. Thank you for your trust! Be sure I will use these tools to protect and prevent and not to harass or punish. Should you feel I am overreacting, pat me so that I can correct myself. Thanks again! ReyBrujo 20:50, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recent contributions

Hello Nileena. I really do appreciate the pains you are taking to add Kerala journalism related articles to wikipedia. However please be careful that for legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.

If the external website belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text — which means allowing other people to modify it — then you must include on the external site the statement "I, (name), am the author of this article, (article name), and I irrevocably release its content under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 and later, for use on Wikipedia and elsewhere."

You might want to look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for more details, or ask a question here. You can also leave a message on my talk page.--thunderboltz(Deepu) 07:47, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Featured Image

Hi, just looking through your userpage and I saw that you had a userbox which said that you had taken a featured image. But going through your image contributions, I saw that none of your images have achieved Featured status. As such, could you remove that userbox. Thanks. --Agεθ020 (ΔT • ФC) 02:20, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mannaraprayil_Cor-Episcopa

Have any newspaper articles or something to back notability?Bakaman Bakatalk 01:54, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, well maybe you should go to malayalam wiki, create the sourced pages, then create them on english wiki after they are on Malayalam wiki.Bakaman Bakatalk 17:37, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Or make a page called "User:Nileena joseph/Sandbox", create the article in your sandbox, and then when it looks good and sourced, move it into article space.Bakaman Bakatalk 17:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reg: Ayyappappanikker

Hi Nileena, You can find more information about Ayyappappanikker here.

http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%85%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AF%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AA%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AA%E0%B4%A3%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%B0%E0%B5%8D%E2%80%8D

Hope this helps in expanding the article (I am too lazy to do it myself :-) )

And here is an article on Kunjunni Mash also

http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%81%E0%B4%9E%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%9E%E0%B5%81%E0%B4%A3%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A3%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%AE%E0%B4%BE%E0%B4%B7%E0%B5%8D

Simynazareth 15:54, 26 November 2006 (UTC)simynazareth

[edit] Reg: T Padmanabhan

Hi Nileena,

I just added some more information on the page for T. Padmanabhan (Writer). I would love to keep contributing, but as of now, my priority is to get Malayalam Wikipedia to a snowballing level.

I translated the article to malayalam wiki ([1]). I also Started translating few of your articles already to Malayalam wiki :-) (M.V. Devan) Keep up the good work!

Please find more information about me at [2]

By the way, the statue of mother and child (Ammayum Kunjum) at Kollam Nehru Park is created by Artist M.V. Devan. Also, he is the chairman of Malayala Kalagramam in Kannur. (http://www.malayalakalagramam.com/graphic.html)

Simynazareth 17:45, 26 November 2006 (UTC)simynazareth

[edit] s jithesh and stuff

Please take a look at WP:CITE . There is a way for you to use Malayali newspapers (in addition to mainstream papers) to assert notability.Bakaman Bakatalk 00:48, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Like I said earlier[3], I've no doubt that S. Jithesh exists. The question is whether he is notable enough to deserve an article on Wikipedia. In what way The Hindu links prove his notability? One report says that he addressed a gathering along with District Information Officer, Deputy District Medical Officer, Assistant Information Officer. The other says that he contributed to a booklet, along with many other cartoonists. Like I earlier suggested (and Bakasuprman has suggested above), you can start writing the article at User:Nileena joseph/S. Jithesh. I'm not convinced of his notability, but I'll help with formatting and copyediting, if required. When the article becomes good enough to pass WP:V and WP:BIO, it can be moved to article namespace. If you feel I'm being unreasonable or prejudiced, you can always request unprotection at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. utcursch | talk 04:48, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I understand that we cannot rely on Google or English newspapers to establish notability or non-notability of a person. But WP:V and WP:BIO are fair policies. If I write an article on XYZ today, saying that XYZ is highly notable in some part of the world where English is not spoken, should others believe me blindly? No! The Hindu (and other) links mention Mannaraprayil_Cor-Episcopa and S. Jithesh, but they do not prove that the subjects are notable enough to deserve an article on Wikipedia. If these are indeed notable in Kerala, why do majority of the Keralite Wikipedians say otherwise? If enough established users say that the subject is notable, articles are not deleted. See for example, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Billoo. Anyway, I've restored the deleted content to your subpage: User:Nileena joseph/S. Jithesh and User:Nileena joseph/Mannaraprayil Cor-Episcopa. I'll be happy to help with copyediting/formatting work. utcursch | talk 09:30, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for your support

I wasn't going to send thank-you cards, but the emotional impact of hitting WP:100 (and doing so unanimously!) changed my mind. So I appreciate your (strong) confidence in me at RFA, and hope you'll let me know if I can do anything for you in the future. Cheers! -- nae'blis 00:04, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fishing for pike

Could you clarify why you chose delete instead of Transwikification? The transwikification won't have any ill effects on the quality of the pike article and still removes the material from Wikipedia while putting it where it belongs (on WikiBooks). - Mgm|(talk) 11:15, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Award for you

The India Star
I Arjun award you Nileena joseph the India Star. I award you this for all your great articles you have created concerning Indian topics. You work is highly appreciated and will not go unnoticed any longer. Keep up the great work my friend. ~ Arjun 03:58, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Seriously great work, I love that you work quietly yet greatly for wikipedia. Cheers! ~ Arjun 03:58, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Outstanding work

I am a wikipedian from Kerala. My work too has largely been confined to Kerala and India.Nice to see your work. sumal 13:43, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Great to see a wikipedian

finally I managed to find a wikipedian with some admin powers... good ... Hope you ll clear If I have any issues or doubts in posting in Wiki... Regards, Anand.S

[edit] Your e-mail address

It may not be wise to put your e-mail address on your user page and wikipedia doesn’t encourage doing so. Therefore, I have edited your user profile. Hope you like it. You may also check: WP:EMAIL --Avinesh Jose 09:42, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Arakkal Museum

Hi, take a look at the article on Arakkal Museum. Shijaz 05:58, 4 December 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] Removal of category from your userpage

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