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Generally, I'll reply here if you post here, so please watch this page if you want to see my reply. If I don't reply within a couple days on another page where you replied to one of my comments, feel free to drop a message here. I have over 5900 pages on my watchlist, so I don't always catch everything new. Thanks! ···日本穣 |
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[edit] An editor I need help with
I found you through Wikiproject Japan. I was wondering if you knew someone who maybe could adopt User:Electric Japan. I don't speak Japanese, and he doesn't speak English very well. It's difficult for me to explain things to him. He has conflicts with other editors about material he's been adding to various articles. Let me know. Thanks, Enigma message 16:47, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
- I can try, but there may be others who may be more helpful in this. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 22:07, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] WP:HAU
Hello yet again. I regretfully inform you that the bot we were using to update the user status at Wikipedia:Highly Active Users, SoxBot V, was blocked for its constant updating. With this bot out of operation, a patch is in the works. Until that patch is reviewed and accepted by the developers, some options have been presented to use as workarounds: 1) Qui monobook (not available in Internet Explorer); 2) User:Hersfold/StatusTemplate; 3) Manually updating User:StatusBot/Status/USERNAME; or 4) Not worry about it and wait for the patch to go through, which hopefully won't take long. If you have another method, you can use that, too. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Useight (talk) 17:43, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Proposed deletion of Shōjo (disambiguation)
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[edit] Blade of the Phantom Master
You've edited the article, so I come to here your help. I think you already saw the dispute and WP:RFC at the page, but I don't know why you're calm on this. ocn.ne.jp ISP user(s) has vandalised the manhwa article earlier several times and keeps removing Korean mention in the lead at Blade of the Phantom Master along with the banned Azukimonaka (talk · contribs). The article originally mentioned the Korean manhwa, not manga until last June. Besides, an obvious sock of the anon appeared at the article as User:Jazz81089 after his long break 8 months, so I need your input on this. Thanks. --Appletrees (talk) 21:22, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- It was originally published in a Japanese magazine by a Japanese publisher, so I would call it manga. Besides, "manhwa" and "manga" are just two words with the same meaning (for all intents and purposes). Fighting over it is stupid. Did you expect me to go berserk on someone over this? ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
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- Actually, I did not expect much from you because of too obvious reasons in the past. You have not helped me at all, but always give me an insulting comment. You did not see the edit history, and my version of the edit. The anon and sock account removed "Korean manhwa artists" exclusively. That the creators are Korean manhwa artists is a hard fact. Besides, the work is not purely manga. It can be manhwa as well. Therefore, my version is compromised version to please the each side such as "a cartoon and animation series drawn by Korean manhwa artist... specialized as Japanese manga published by Japanse manga magazine. Besides, the Japanese publisher just translated the original draft from Korean to Japanese and then published it. Well, I also did not remove the Anime category at all and the mention of manwha and Korean nationality was not inserted by me first.
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- Of course, the two share only the same meaning in the different language along with the different pronunciation. That's why manga/manhwa/manhua articles exist independently. There are all Japanese/Korean/Chinese cartoon and animation is original translation in English. The term, manga, manhwa are all recent neologism. Maybe visiting talking with you is really a stupid thing and wasting my time. --Appletrees (talk) 04:26, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
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- Look, the only edits I've made have been extremely minor, and had nothing to do with the actual content. And don't get all huffy just because I'm not willing to do what you want. I couldn't care less about this article (as is obvious from the amount of time I've spent editing it). I don't know much about it other than the little bit I read to respond to you, and I don't care to know any more about the subject. If you have an issue with the content being changed on the article, I recommend working out your differences with the other regular editors of that article rather than attacking someone who has barely touched the article. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- The only reason I come to you is you're an admin who have edited the article. If you're not in the "two" condition, I would not really spend my time here with no gain. You can say you have no intention to help me, that is totally fine. But you added the unsuitable comment. Attacking was started by you, not me. I response the same to what others do. However, I appreciate your last advice. --Appletrees (talk) 06:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Where did I attack you? I asked you a question because you told me (and I quote), "I don't know why you're calm on this." I've only edited that article a couple times, but you came here acting as if I should be incensed that some editors (including you) were edit warring over something as small as whether or not to include a few words. Again, how exactly did I attack you? I'm willing to help where I can, but you obviously don't believe I'm impartial, so I find it somewhat absurd that you keep coming to me when you don't believe anything I write and don't trust anything I do (no matter how irrational those beliefs may be). Again, I'm willing to help where I can, but I don't feel much inclination to do anything for you given the reasons listed above. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:23, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- I admit that I don't fully thrust you because whenever I really needed a help from you, you ignored or gave absurd comments against me. You're the only admin having edited anime-manga articles that I've know of. Regardless, I tried to thrust you again but always feel bitterness from your improper comments. You don't seem to realize that your way of speaking is not really kind to me, or others. Sorry to say I tend to have a high expectation from admins. Fighting over it is stupid. Did you expect me to go berserk on someone over this? --> This is a clean personal attack. Editors here come to edit what they believe is right or helpful to develop articles even though it looks stupid to you. The sentence says I was acting crazy as fighting with the anon. No matter how irrational those believe may be? Again, you just prove yourself. All these conversation is nothing but confirming impossibility to communicate with you. If you can't help me, why don't you just simply say "no" and end it? --Appletrees (talk) 06:44, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- A personal attack would be, "You are stupid." Stating that "fighting over it is stupid" is not a personal attack but rather an opinion that a particular action is just plain dumb. And my question was already explained. Yes, editors come here to edit and be helpful in developing articles, but edit warring as you have done on this article—and on many others—is not helpful in the least and shows only that you are unwilling to work out a compromise with the other editors involved. The only way things can change is if you stop edit warring and start trying to wok things out with the other involved editors. You'll accomplish a lot more by dong that, too. Again, I strongly urge you to take your concerns to the talk page in question and work things out with the other editors. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:57, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- It is pretty sad that you do not listen to my saying at all. I particularly presented a compromised version to the japanaese anon, and have participated in discussions unlike the other. I already took the matter to the talk pages and got no answer at all. So your so-call advice is a cliche. If the thing can be resolved in a discussion or even get a single response from the other except edit summaries as him reverting, why would I come to here? This conversation is a wast of time. Regarding edit warrings, you can't be so sure about that. Of course, POV pushing and edit warring are generally not good, but just condoning or giving up disruptions does not help to develop articles at all. I witnessed that you made edit warrings several times, even one case of which drove you to be in ANI. So have a good night.--Appletrees (talk) 07:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- If you make a good faith effort to discuss things, and the other editors do not participate, then that's a different story. You never said that was the case before now. Another thing you can do is open an RFC in order to get some outside comments on the topic. If you get consensus for the controversial material, and people keep reverting it, then we can discuss what can be done to prevent that. As for your other comments, the English is too broken for me to understand what you are trying to say. I don't edit war, and I have no idea what you mean by "one case drove you at ANI". ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 07:41, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- I already filed a RFC on this because I thought that third opinions from many people would help to resolve this thing. But unlike my thought, I also got no answer from the side. Except going to ANI, I've done everything to resolve it, but nothing. Sorry for my broken English, but "one case drove you to be at ANI" is your edit waring on some Japanese magazine or book. I don't think any further description on the case is even needed.--Appletrees (talk) 07:55, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- If you make a good faith effort to discuss things, and the other editors do not participate, then that's a different story. You never said that was the case before now. Another thing you can do is open an RFC in order to get some outside comments on the topic. If you get consensus for the controversial material, and people keep reverting it, then we can discuss what can be done to prevent that. As for your other comments, the English is too broken for me to understand what you are trying to say. I don't edit war, and I have no idea what you mean by "one case drove you at ANI". ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 07:41, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- It is pretty sad that you do not listen to my saying at all. I particularly presented a compromised version to the japanaese anon, and have participated in discussions unlike the other. I already took the matter to the talk pages and got no answer at all. So your so-call advice is a cliche. If the thing can be resolved in a discussion or even get a single response from the other except edit summaries as him reverting, why would I come to here? This conversation is a wast of time. Regarding edit warrings, you can't be so sure about that. Of course, POV pushing and edit warring are generally not good, but just condoning or giving up disruptions does not help to develop articles at all. I witnessed that you made edit warrings several times, even one case of which drove you to be in ANI. So have a good night.--Appletrees (talk) 07:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- A personal attack would be, "You are stupid." Stating that "fighting over it is stupid" is not a personal attack but rather an opinion that a particular action is just plain dumb. And my question was already explained. Yes, editors come here to edit and be helpful in developing articles, but edit warring as you have done on this article—and on many others—is not helpful in the least and shows only that you are unwilling to work out a compromise with the other editors involved. The only way things can change is if you stop edit warring and start trying to wok things out with the other involved editors. You'll accomplish a lot more by dong that, too. Again, I strongly urge you to take your concerns to the talk page in question and work things out with the other editors. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:57, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- I admit that I don't fully thrust you because whenever I really needed a help from you, you ignored or gave absurd comments against me. You're the only admin having edited anime-manga articles that I've know of. Regardless, I tried to thrust you again but always feel bitterness from your improper comments. You don't seem to realize that your way of speaking is not really kind to me, or others. Sorry to say I tend to have a high expectation from admins. Fighting over it is stupid. Did you expect me to go berserk on someone over this? --> This is a clean personal attack. Editors here come to edit what they believe is right or helpful to develop articles even though it looks stupid to you. The sentence says I was acting crazy as fighting with the anon. No matter how irrational those believe may be? Again, you just prove yourself. All these conversation is nothing but confirming impossibility to communicate with you. If you can't help me, why don't you just simply say "no" and end it? --Appletrees (talk) 06:44, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Where did I attack you? I asked you a question because you told me (and I quote), "I don't know why you're calm on this." I've only edited that article a couple times, but you came here acting as if I should be incensed that some editors (including you) were edit warring over something as small as whether or not to include a few words. Again, how exactly did I attack you? I'm willing to help where I can, but you obviously don't believe I'm impartial, so I find it somewhat absurd that you keep coming to me when you don't believe anything I write and don't trust anything I do (no matter how irrational those beliefs may be). Again, I'm willing to help where I can, but I don't feel much inclination to do anything for you given the reasons listed above. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:23, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- The only reason I come to you is you're an admin who have edited the article. If you're not in the "two" condition, I would not really spend my time here with no gain. You can say you have no intention to help me, that is totally fine. But you added the unsuitable comment. Attacking was started by you, not me. I response the same to what others do. However, I appreciate your last advice. --Appletrees (talk) 06:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Look, the only edits I've made have been extremely minor, and had nothing to do with the actual content. And don't get all huffy just because I'm not willing to do what you want. I couldn't care less about this article (as is obvious from the amount of time I've spent editing it). I don't know much about it other than the little bit I read to respond to you, and I don't care to know any more about the subject. If you have an issue with the content being changed on the article, I recommend working out your differences with the other regular editors of that article rather than attacking someone who has barely touched the article. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Support
Please show your support. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Japanese_Supercar —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spell123 (talk • contribs) 08:38, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Reply at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Japanese Supercar
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Regards, tgies (talk) 00:55, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Naruto character reception
Per the comments at the peer review for List of Naruto characters, I was asked to check with the magazine library to determine whether there was any critical reception on the Naruto characters. As you own a plethora of various anime and manga publications, I was curious whether such reception was present. Thanks, Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 05:50, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- I suspect there are, but I don't have the time to look through hundreds of books and magazines to try to find references for you. If you can point me to a specific book or a specific issue of a magazine that has something you need, I'll be happy to get the information to you. Have you looked at the What links here page for Naruto? If there are references in cataloged books and magazines, there will be links to that page. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:54, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- I just did a quick glance through the linked pages, and didn't see anything right off. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:55, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's probably the case. I was thinking Newtype USA, as since the article is being prepped for WP:FLC, it would be nice if there was reception from printed sources. If there isn't anything, don't worry about it - I'm pretty sure the article can pass without them. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 05:58, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- I just did a quick glance through the linked pages, and didn't see anything right off. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:55, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
