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I have contributed 3 stubs related to humanistic sociology [1] one which intersects with philosophy. I have a background in Humanistic sociology and my stubs with which you may agree or disagree are there to work towards a complete and balanced encyclopaedia. My next goal is to enhance the Ossowski page. I have no cultural connection with Poland. I am more interested in contributing to the mathematical physics side in Wikipedia, I am currently researching Yang-Mills gauge theory for an article that will explain this complex theory for people with no or little mathematics but a strong interest in the philosophy of science. However I can see I will be spending time contributing to the Humanistic sociology pages as they seem to be somewhat in a state of disrepair and very incomplete and unbalanced. I greatly appreciate the help given by Piotr, in an editing sense. I would like to see a better representation of the works of Znaniecki, Ossowski, Ingarden.

Nigel Savage 10:12, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Humanistic Sociology page

I have tried to initiate a discussion as to how to fix the Humanistic Sociology page which is currently completely wrong. The content in the Humanistic Sociology page completely contradicts the much more scholarly Antipositivism page. Please go to the discussion page for for details Nigel Savage 06:53, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

  • I have completely rewritten the humanistic sociology page. It completely contradicted the Antipositivism page and contained many factual errors.Nigel Savage 08:52, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dialouge with Otheus

someone else flagged the article as needing to be copy-edited. This flag puts the article into a category. I clicked on the category listing and saw the article and started editing it. Given the article's nature, I suspect you come from Poland, in which case your work is very impressive. I meant no hard feelings in flagging your article any particular way. It does need a lot of work; this is an wikt:iterative process. I find the topic very interesting, so I intend to go back to it when I make time. --Otheus 08:28, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Oh and concerning my NPOV remark in the article -- this was from "Both views are biased". The only problem with that statement is that it reflects the bias of a 3rd point of view. Since that view is not specified, it sounds like the bias of the author. And one more point: the idea that both views are biased is already presented in the article; emphasizing it draws attention to itself, as if to say, "But I'm impartial!" :) At any rate, I probably should NOT have taken it out, since I was "merely" copy-editing. --Otheus

[edit] Ossowski page

The following is a synopsis of what I would like to see included in the Ossowski page

[edit] Ossowski and Intellectual freedom

I would like to expand this article to include the facts related to Ossowski role in the breaking of the ideological stranglehold of the state on science in Poland.

[edit] Polish Sociological Association

mention roots Florian Znaniecki and Polish Sociological Institute

mention The Polish Sociological Institute liquidation by Stalinist authorities in 1951

mention how Ossowski organized a Sociological Section within the Polish Philosophical Association 1956 ‘the October thaw'

mention founding Polish Sociological Association with Stanislaw Ossowski In 1957

[edit] Academic Legacy

mention Ossowski Prize for the best book written by sociologists of the younger generation. ==

mention the intersection of his philosophical research in logic and aesthetics and its contribution to the developement of his sociology and its model for understanding interpersonal relations

mention the sociological schema for understanding sytems of values, its relationship to humanistic sociology, antipositivism, his critical discussions of official Marxism–Leninism

[edit] Personal legacy

mention courage and sacrifice in mounting an intellectual resistance to an opressive ideological state

mention his conceptual framework for socology and its use in providing much needed analysis. For example Anna Pawełczyńska's "Values and Violence: A Sociological Analysis of Auschwitz" Translated by Catherine S Leach University of California Press, 1980


[edit] Thank you for your Poland-related contributions

Hello Nigelsa! Thank you for your contributions related to Poland. You may be interested in visiting Portal:Poland/Poland-related Wikipedia notice board, joining our discussions and sharing your creations with us.

-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  13:58, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] humanist principle

I have reread the Znaniecki page and it to refers to the humanist principle now this could be seperate to the concept of the humanistic coefficent or not. Again humanist principle is highlighted but there is no entry to the page. On reflection it is clear that the author is indeed refering to the humanistic coefficent. I just looked at the dicussion page for Florian's entry only to find the following comment "Florian Znaniecki; under-rated visionary or Hegel wannabe?" by Dylanmiller. This can only be described as very poor. I would like to use stronger language but respecting the Wikipedia code I will refrain except to state plainly my utmost respect for the philosophical contribution of both Hegel and Florian Znaniecki. I will put an initial entry at the humanist principle stub now.

I just checked Dylanmiller doesn’t even have a user page. I request the comment be deleted in respect to the before mentioned philosophers. There is now an entry at the humanist principle stub. Nigel Savage 08:19, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prokonsul feedback humanistic coefficient

Thank you for your contributions to Humanist principle. I look foward to seeing more of your edits related to Znaniecki, Ossowski, and others. Some advice: if you intend people to reply to your comments, don't leave them on your talk page; leave them on discussion pages of articles or specific editors whom you want to notify. Please add Wikipedia:Categories to articles you create, and mark them as Wikipedia:Stub if they are just a begining. Take a look at Wikipedia:Manual of style for idas of when to use headings and such. Don't hesitate to use ilinks in your work, and if they are red (as conceptual object ) think if there is a better term to use (or create a Wikipedia:Redirect).-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  19:37, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi Piotr Thanks for your welcome, feedback and the tiding up you did on the Humanist principle. I will follow your advice. I went to your page, I couldn’t find your edit page. Your user talk page was to busy for this comment. Kindest Regards Nigel Nigel Savage 22:34, 2 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Conceptual Object

Hi Piotr I put a stub entry for conceptual object. I followed your advice, however it is probably more a philosophy stub. I put in catagories. This is not completely clear mainly due to the large intersection between sociology and philosophy. The stub contains a reference to another compatriot of yours Roman Ingarden. Nigel Savage 23:35, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

By all means, please leave comments for me on my talk page, this is what it is for.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  18:04, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yang-Mills

At the discussion page for Gauge theory one finds this comment

  • "Can we have an intro paragraph for, say, the reader with only first year undergraduate physics, rather than this somewhat last-year mathematical physics student level.... also a roadmap for subjects to read about first (differential geometry, tensors...) ? "

I am trying to write an article not necessarily for Wikipedia, that will address this reasonable and important request. One insight I had recently was how hard it is to grasp the concept of a group as a manifold.

[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia!!!

Hello Nigelsa! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. If you decide that you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Below are some recommended guidelines to facilitate your involvement. Happy Editing!  Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  13:58, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Welcome back

After the break :) -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  07:03, 23 February 2007 (UTC)