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This should be changed to Lefkosia. We changed Ivory Coast to Cote D'Ivorie and Burma to Mynamar, and Peking to Beijing. If the convention is to use the local preference than this article should be moved to Lefkosia

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[edit] Page Edit

Can someone edit the page to get rid of those huge blank spaces? I think it has something to do with the placement of the pictures but I'm not sure how to fix it. stan goldsmith 01:12, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nicosia v. Lefkosia v. Lefkoşa

If this place is really called Lefkosia, shouldn't it be moved there? I'd do it, but I'm not sure, anyone with knowledge of the subject have any ideas about it? (Please don't do a copy-paste move however, because then the history of the article doesn't move along). Regards, JoanneB 13:03, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

I think the government has attempted to change the English language designation to "Lefkosia" but it hasn't really stuck, it is still commonly referred to in English worldwide as Nicosia. Ramallite (talk) 14:56, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Worldwide it's reffered to as Nicosia, so making it Lefkosia won't help! But we can redirect Lefkosia to this article! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Erodotos5 (talk • contribs) 15:33, 25 October 2006.

Neither the Cyprus government English website [1] nor the European Union website [2] is unambiguous on the English name of the capital. Both sites use both Nicosia and Lefkosia. The site of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus [3] is more clear, citing the name as "Lefkosa (Nicosia)" (without the cedilla on the ş). Given the ambiguity of the official usage and the overwhelming dominance of Nicosia in general English use, we should keep Nicosia at least until official sources make up their mind. 69.159.93.116 04:24, 17 February 2007 (UTC)Steve-Mtl

The English name for the city is Nicosia. Lefkosia is just the Greek name transliterated into Latin characters. Lefkoşa on the other hand is the Turkish name. Changing the article to either would be like changing Cologne to Köln. Welshleprechaun (talk) 10:16, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Photo

Are you sure this is a photo of Nicosia or even a city?It looks more like a fossil or a rock... Padem 12:33, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Click on it, bud, and you'll get a better view of things. --(Mingus ah um 18:29, 27 April 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Division

This is a divided city, and yet, according to the article there is only one public transit company, only Greek sports teams etc. All the bus routes start at the Solomos Square terminal in the centre of the city and cover all the areas of the city: does this also hold for the Northern part of the city? Irrespecrive of the political situation the reader would like to know something about the Turkish part of the city. Andreas 20:04, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Then make additions to it if you know anything more. --www.doc 02:01, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
That's a good question, Andreas. The only public transportation in the TRNC that I noticed was the taxi, and, while it has been two years, I don't think there has been enough political progress for the Northern Cypriots to allow a Greek Cypriot bus company to work their side of the city... Does anyone out there have a solid source of information on this issue (or, even better, live inside the city)? Your edits would be appreciated. --(Mingus ah um 18:39, 27 April 2006 (UTC))
There is no public transportion crossing the Green Line. The only buses that go across are tourist buses going from Larnacya Airport to hotels in the north, or people on organized day trips - but even those are limited. Taxis aren't allowed to cross either. The only vehicules allowed to cross other than that are private cars and (a very limited number of) lorries. Travelbird 21:46, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Transportation / City Bus service ?

Does anyone have a source for the purported 30-minute interval bus service ? I strongly doubt it exits - in over 4 years of Cyprus I've only seen about 3 buses a year. The "yellow bus service" in the old city isn't really a bus service, but rather a sightseeing route serviced by a Disneyland-like minuature train. Travelbird 21:39, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Hmm. Because of this confusion, I have removed the offending paragraph: Nicosia has an organised network of urban buses that is managed by the Nicosia Bus Company Ltd. All the bus routes start at the Solomos Square terminal in the centre of the city and cover all the areas of the city. Buses run every 20 to 30 minutes depending on their destination while on weekends they run less frequently. In addition, Nicosia Municipality runs its own buses, the well-known Yellow Buses that cover the city within the walls. There is no fare charge for these routes. If anyone has information on bus activity on either side of the green line, feel free to include it... If you cannot provide a citation, describe your addition here or in the section above. --(Mingus ah um 21:55, 27 April 2006 (UTC))

I live in Nicosia... the bus service exists. If you've ever been to the squares in the old city you'll have seen them. As for the "yellow buses", 'they' are indeed just one shabby train-like vehicle that goes down Ledra street every hour or so.- anon.

[edit] One sided story

The Turkish Cyp-Greek Cyp situation is a subjective discussion. You should point that out before saying invasion to 1974 and many things.

The article doesnt involve EOKA-B or any other things that Greek Goverment Tried. The whole story of the lefkosia is probably writen by a Greek Cypriot.

Since the time of the Annan plan Turkey and Turkish Cypriots proven their request for peace more than many times but now that Greek Cypriots have the power of recognition and European Union they are re-writing the history as they see it. The worst part is the whole world saw how the things were during annan plan and they are now (even the Wikipedia which i used until now as the best source in internet) calling their ONE SIDED STORY cyprus' history!

Well its true then, strong one writes the history, and you help as a tool! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Epinox (talk • contribs) 12:42, 25 October 2006.

From the above it appears that you are either a Turk Cypriot yourself or know something about Northern Cyprus. So I would like to repeat my ideas stated above and incite you to add some information about the northern part of the city that is missing in this article, regarding economy, sports, transportation, culture, tourism, etc.   Andreas   (T) 13:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] EXCELLENT PICTURES!!!

I commend the person who put the pictures up. They look like digital photos. This article is starting to look beautiful.(UNFanatic 18:00, 20 December 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Wrong Dates

There is a mistake in the article. The city was divided in 1964. (See "Green Line") —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.175.246.5 (talk) 06:40, 12 April 2007 (UTC).

While the Green Line was drawn in 1964, the line didn't become what it is today until 1974. Travelbird 14:27, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

This does not change the truth that Nicosia was divided in 1964. I will post a reference.

[edit] Not divided by Turkish Army in 1974 but by Major-General Peter Young in 1964 (see "Green Line")

Nicosia was not divided by the Turkish Army in 1974. It was divided by Major-General Peter Young in 1964 with the "Green Line" in order to protect Turkish Cypriots from Greek Cypriots. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.175.246.5 (talk) 07:47, 12 April 2007 (UTC).

Firstly : You can't quote yourself as source ! The edit to Green Line (Cyprus) on Major young, was by yourself. Secondly : You need to provide proper sources for your statement, otherwise the information will be removed as unsourced. Travelbird 14:26, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

You can find a proper source at http://britains-smallwars.com/cyprus/UNFICYP.html

"AT the request of Makarios, Britain now provided a "peace force" from its Sovereign Bases. It would be the forerunner of the UN Force. Greek and Turkish military units were expected to be part of it. Major-General Peter Young took command. By New Year's Day 1964 he had positioned his troops between the two sides in Nicosia and tried to impose a cease-fire. The General looked at a map of the capital and with a green china graph pencil drew a line. The Cypriot Turks were to stay North and the Greek Cypriots South. This has become known as "The Green Line".

[edit] not 1974 but 1964

I will not go into the Cyprus dispute. I just want to correct a mistake in the article. The "Green Line" for the city was drawn in 1964 and there was a turkish and greek side in Nicosia after 1964. So the city was divided in 1964 and there was a border in the middle of the city with a checkpoint which people had to pass in order to go to the other half. Reference http://www.unficyp.org/History/hist_ops_until_74.htm (search for green line). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.255.4.225 (talk) 16:15, 12 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Please correct the dates

I am changing the article so that it reflects the true divison date of 1964. However someone is changing it back to 1974. The capital was divided in 1964. You can easily find it from the web page of the UN

http://www.unficyp.org/History/hist_ops_until_74.htm

and from http://britains-smallwars.com/cyprus/UNFICYP.html

Please do not change the History. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.175.246.5 (talk) 13:12, 13 April 2007 (UTC).


[edit] Nicosia in ASIA?

Why Nicosia(Cyprus) is situated in ASIA? Cyprus is not an asian country, is European! Baloo_SVQ (from the spanish Wikipedia)


[edit] YES, NICOSIA IS IN ASIA

It is a fact that Cyprus is geographically in Asia, whereas politically Cyprus is in Europe. Proof why Cyprus is in Asia: Southern part of Turkey is in Asia. Cyprus is even very far east compared to South of Turkey. Also, Syria is in Asia as well. An island that is surrounded by geographically Asian parts and very far away to Europe is in Asia. 78.168.70.19 (talk) 20:15, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Nicosia is not known as Khora. It was known colloquially as Khora 50 years and more ago. I live in Nicosia so don't change my edit again. Also, we always call it Lefkosia Λευκωσία instead of Nicosia which is only used in official documents.


People from villages still call it Khora —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ankateif (talk • contribs) 23:06, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Landmarks" section needs editing for style

From the Manual of Style: Wikipedia is not a manual, guidebook, or textbook. The "Landmarks" section has a lot of good information, but is currently written in the style of a guidebook, which is not appropriate for an encyclopedia like Wikipedia. For example, we should not be telling people where is "definitely the place to head for first" or "well worth a visit". That's what Wikitravel is for, not Wikipedia. Loganberry (Talk) 21:23, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RESIDUALS OF CRUSADES (GREEKS) MUST RETURN TO THEIR HOMETOWN (GREECE)

After Crusades attacks to the Eastern world, italians returned to Italia, Spanians returned to Spania, Frenchs returned to France, etc. There is no reason for Greeks for staying in an Asian (Eastern World) island, Cyprus. There have been lots of time that Crusades wars ended. Hence, Greeks in the Cyprus must return to Greece without any delay. We don't want any greek in our Cyprus island. 78.168.70.19 (talk) 20:26, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

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