Talk:Nicole Wray

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1 Biography assessment rating comment
2 Discussion
3 Discraphy cleanup
4 Fair use rationale for Image:N20.jpg
5 Fair use rationale for Image:Make It Hot.JPG
6 Fair use rationale for Image:Lovechild album.jpg
7 Rapper
8 Unreleased albums
9 Attributability
10 Page protection
11 Albums, Eps, Mixtapes
12 "Also known as"
13 Betty Boo
14 Also known as
- 14.1 Past Names
- 14.2 Present Names
15 Don't call it a second studio album
16 New album has a title

[edit] Biography assessment rating comment

WikiProject Biography Summer 2007 Assessment Drive

Nearly a B.

The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Yamara 20:07, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

can somebody post her lowest note and in what song

[edit] Discraphy cleanup

Since there is already a discography page for this artist, I have moved singles, mixtapes and extended album details to the page at Nicole Wray discography. As a result, the artist page is now more concise. Cloudz679 11:26, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I have once again "cleaned up" this section. I hope the concensus here is that the full discography is better suited to being on an alternative suitable page (already linked in my previous post). Cloudz679 01:07, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:N20.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Make It Hot.JPG

Image:Make It Hot.JPG is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Lovechild album.jpg

Image:Lovechild album.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

[edit] Rapper

Nicole Wray is not a rapper. She doesn't record rap albums and she isn't known for her rapping. Just because one user thinks she should be categorised as a rapper, doesn't mean this should be on her wikipedia entry. Cloudz679 (talk) 09:24, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unreleased albums

I have again removed the "unreleased albums". No sourcing is provided to demonstrate that these particular supposed albums are any more notable than countless other similar fare. They do not deserve their own articles, nor do they belong on the discography. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 18:18, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I have yanked them again. This time, though, instead of "Soccermeko", it was "Nekoangel16" or "Nekoangel17" or... It's hard to keep track of all of him. The smell of socks is overwhelming. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 13:21, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I am once again removing the unreleased albums and unsourced chart info. I will continue to do so until there is some discussion and/or the sock puppetry issue is resolved. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 16:41, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Soccermeko#User:Soccermeko. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 14:35, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Attributability

I'm concerned that a lot of the information on the page was orignal research (see WP:NOR) and have removed unverified material accordingly. Cloudz679 (talk) 20:08, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Page protection

I have protected the page from editing for 5 days, following this request. Please take this opportunity to discuss the contested revisions here. CIreland (talk) 01:17, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Propose removal of unattributed material and revert to [1] or, as way of compromise, at least some references that meet the requirements laid out in Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Cloudz679 (talk) 10:03, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Also propose removal of nicknames other than 'Nicole' as per Template:Infobox_Musical_artist#Alias. Cloudz679 (talk) 10:08, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree: unreleased "albums", mixtapes, etc. should go unless there are citations to reliable sources demonstrating that they are, in some meaningful way, notable. All unsourced/poorly sourced nicknames should go. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 14:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Albums, Eps, Mixtapes

I gave you a list of reliable sources. I gave you one for Elektric Blue, Lovechild, and her new album. I gave sources about her mixtapes and eps and it proves that they are valuable to being apart of the profile and discography. And you didn't get the sources i will provide them again, shortly. Soccermeko (talk) 15:05, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Also known as"

Rather than the repeated edit, revert, re-revert, re-re-revert edit war here, please discuss this.

1) What names belong here? Names shown on albums, "street" names, names announced as, etc.
2) Is there a wikipedia guideline on this?
3) Are sources needed?
4) Are sources shown?

Thanks. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 14:40, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Names belonging in the alias field, as demonstrated at the wikipedia guideline at template:Infobox_Musical_artist#Alias, are for official stage names (e.g. NOT nicknames such as The Godfather of Soul for James Brown). Official stage names are those in which she has appeared. The 1998 album was released with the name Nicole (source: amazon.com).

I don't think sources are generally needed but for something which clearly is not a stage name, i.e.

google result for black betty boo and nicole wray

This misinformation is unencyclopaedic and should be removed. As an additional comment, the multiple results on the second search are copies of the first and not independent pages.

The fact that this nonsense is being continuously readded to the page against wikipedia's policies is a cause for concern. Cloudz679 (talk) 15:30, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your thoughts. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 16:33, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Betty Boo

They call her Betty Boo on her mixtape and in interviews. here one right now [2] Infostorm (talk) 15:26, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Nicknames are not included as aliases as per the wikipedia guidelines I quoted above. Cloudz679 (talk) 15:41, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Also known as

Well these are the name she went by

[edit] Past Names

Lady Day of the Streets
Nicole Ray
The First Lady at/of Roc
Nicole
Sexy as I wanna be

[edit] Present Names

Betty Boo (Everyone of her fans call her this)
Nikki Wray (fans call her this [go to her Elektric Blue Petition] to see it)
The Billie Holiday of the Streets (A.Fam Enterntainment gave this name on her mixtape)

If you don't have the mixtape, so you can her it than you need to hush because this is the truth. Infostorm (talk) 15:45, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

If you're so sure of yourself why can't you reference it. The guidelines above are very clear. She's made no releases under any name other than Nicole and Nicole Wray. Cloudz679 (talk) 15:54, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Infostorm, ALSO KNOWN AS Soccermeko, has been blocked as a sock of Soccermeko. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 20:37, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Don't call it a second studio album

do not call her new 2008 album, her second studio album because she said that she will be releasing her other album "Elektric Blue" and "Lovechild" in the fall of 2008. you have to call it either a "new album", "upcoming 2008 album", or "fourth studio album". 4.154.2.73 (talk) 20:03, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, SM, I disagree. As it would be her second released studio album, it would be her second studio album. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 21:54, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I concur with Mdsummermsw. If it is released, it will be her second album. Cloudz679 (talk) 07:44, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New album has a title

(removed likely trolling)

New editor has a familiar writing style... In any event, the album might or might not have a title. When it has a reliable source saying it has a title, then it 'will have a title. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 17:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC)