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[edit] As seen on TV

On Smallville. The nicodemus is a plant, an extinct plant, that was brought back by exposing the fossilized? seeds to the meteor rocks.

Anyways, the point is, Lana Lang aka Kristin Kreuk gets exposed to it and the symptoms, well, lets just say if you're a big fan of hers, this isnt something that should be missed.

[S1.Ep15]

Check it.

[edit] Follower of Jesus

I have removed this article from the category "follower of Jesus", as the Gospel of John, in which Nicodemus solely appears, does not warrant this label. Nicodemus is described as a Pharisee who is on friendly terms with Jesus, has a discussion with him by night early in the latter's ministry, insists on due process in Jesus' case and assists in his burial. That does not imply that he had become a disciple - in contrast to Joseph of Arimathia who is unambiguously called a "disciple, albeit in secret".

Later, tradition considered Nicodemus a Christian, even a martyr and thus he was included among the Saints. But the same thing happened with Gamaliel too - a Pharisee who had contact of a a positive nature with Christianity. Other sources do paint a different picture: that Gamaliel lived and died a Pharisee, in fact the leading Pharisee, and brought forth a dynasty of leaders of Judaism. The difference is of course that we clearly know Gamaliel from other sources, while the identification of Nicodemus with Nicodemus ben Gurion is conjecture. So someone could paint Nicodemus according to Christian tradition and distinguish Nicodemus ben Gurion.

I am not arguing that these traditions about Nicodemus are false. But we cannot clearly see whether Nicodemus became a Christian at one point or not. The Gospels do not provide any basis for that. (So before pointing to certain Gospel verse anyone should read them first and reflect whether they are supporting what they are saying - they are not). Str1977 (smile back) 07:14, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

/////////Sympathetic to Jesus and the teachings of Jesus, but Nicodemus was definately a Pharisee and a lot of other Pharisees were very Anti-Jesus. With so little to go on, I can only assume that he was trying to be diplomatic with Jesus for the benifit of the Pharisees. -Dash