Talk:Nico Ditch
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[edit] Contentious Issues
Local History in the Dark Ages is scarce and when sources are found about it, they often come from local historians who have researched the area as a "Labour of love".
Please comment on some of the following:
- The Nico ditch is not mentioned in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle and Manchester is only referred to once. Its reference is to do with Edward the Elder's building of 'Burh's'... fortified settlements... and sadly not in connection with the Nico ditch.
- In actual fact if the ditch was defensive ot was more likely constructed by the Mercians and thus built to protect Mercia from incursions. Manchester had a 'burh' and it was indeed 'repaired' by Edward the Elder. Therefore Manchester was protected.
Mike33 02:52, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Stats on the ditch
I've gone over the article adding sources and information from those sources and changing the structure structure. There was some stuff that I was unable to find a reference for such as "Nico comes from Noecan the Anglo-Saxon verb to kill". Also the date given in the introduction (890-910) for the construction of the ditch is unreferenced.
More straight foreward is the description of the ditch as being "5 ft (1.5 m) wide and 16 ft (4.8 m) [high]". This seems to be the wrong way round as the information I have is that the ditch is the other way rounf. Furthermore, since the ditch survives in similar dimensions today, I think the reference to Victorian interest is superfluous. I've tagged that sentence as needing a source, but will remove it unless one can be provided.
I don't think the see also section is necessary either. Nev1 23:12, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
- The statement "The ditch is on the southern side and the bank on the northern side, thus protecting Manigcestre (Manchester) from incursion from the south Both Stockport and Oldham were Danish settlements" seems wrong. Oldham is to the north of the ditch for starters, and secondly I'm unable to find a reference to Stockport being Danish. Etymological evidence suggests that Stockport was Anglo-Saxon in origin, "stoc" meaning a stockaded place or castle and "port" a wood in Anglo-Saxon. Nev1 23:39, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
