Talk:Nicky Cruz

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IO feel Nicky has come through alot and by helping these people will make a great differance.I a in first year and we have been learning about Nicky Cruz for the past three weeks.

I really inspire Nicky Cruz. It shows people CAN change, and he now helps other people. It makes people feel YOU can do it and revert your ways.

Rebecca

[edit] More about his conversion

As I understand it, Nicky threatened David with a knife, but David responded by saying 'You can cut my into pieces Nicky, but every piece will still cry out 'I love you'.

I think that is one of the most inspirational things i've come across and I greatly admire both of them.

-Elin

Yes,Nicky Cruz is very inspriring. I thought David said 'every piece will still cry out' GOD loves you'

Rebecca

I'm glad that you all have enjoyed the article about Nicky Ctruz. I was like him and that is why I wrote the article. If you enjoyed the article you will most likely enjoy the three other articles which I wrote. They are José Juan García, Richie Ray and Bobby Cruz. Tony the Marine 01:18, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Was he really president?

I have quite recently read the swedish edition of The Cross and the Switchblade and according to what I read, Nicky wasn't the president, it was Israel, Nicky was the president's closest man, I cannot remember the correct english term. 130.236.60.32 15:45, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

• I regard to your question. Nicky was the president and Israel the vice-president. Isreal became the leader after Nicky quit. Take it from me, I was around there during that time (My father used to own a TV repair shop in the area). Tony the Marine 16:25, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

According to The Cross and the Switchblade, Nicky was the most infamous (having done many famous things), though Nicky wasn't the leader. At one point in the book, he gave his story and then said that he wanted to fight and therefore didn't became the leader. Nicky and Israel became christians at the same time, though Israel later fell back, apparantly he became the leader of the Mau Mau again and then got into jail. Have you read The Cross and the Switchblade (as I have) or something that Nicky has written about it? 212.181.185.33 15:12, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

• To all those interested. Tell you what, let's find out from Nicky Cruz himself, if he was or was not the "President" of the gang here: Nicky Cruz's testimony Tony the Marine 22:00, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
• Like many people whose lives are documented by more than one source, the details can often be contradictory. Whether Cruz was the president or not, both Wilkerson's and Cruz's accounts agree that he was a leader. It's also pretty important to remember that most people's memory of the story is from the film, and even the film contradicts details written about in Wilkerson's book. I do agree with whoever put the citation tag at the top of the article that this thing needs to be cited. If it's that important a detail, someone needs to cite the sources. Mitchell k dwyer (talk) 16:56, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

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