Talk:Nick Ruston

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Nick Ruston is a well known artist in London art circles. I've met him a few times, which is why I started this page. Does anyone know exactly which books he is in so I can reference it? (Bengough99 (talk) 11:47, 13 April 2008 (UTC))

Hi Ben,

You say he is well-known. Do you think he meets these criteria yet?

  1. A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has been the subject of published secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject.
  2. The person has received a notable award or honor, or has been often nominated for them.
  3. The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field.
  4. The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by their peers or successors.
  5. The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory or technique.
  6. The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, which has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.
  7. The person's work either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums, or had works in many significant libraries.

(all from WP:BIO)


If so we have to prove this with "published secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject." You are on the right track to find reliable references to Ruston. The problem is that neither the Time Out or BBC website articles actually mention Ruston. [1][2]. Maybe the Grafik one mentions him, but I haven't got access to it, unfortunately. You have added that he has won an award but I can't find any sign that the award actually exists. [3]. Maybe you have the name wrong? For my part, I have searched major newspapers worldwide and can find no mention of him at all, unfortunately. I personally suspect that he is a talented up and coming artist who may not yet meet the criteria for inclusion in Wikipedia, but I am certainly hopeful that third part references can be found that show his notability. I will be watching this space. Good luck Slp1 (talk) 12:51, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh yes. And since you seem to know the artist, you should take a look of Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines, just so that you are aware of them.Slp1 (talk) 12:55, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Dear Slp1,

I shall try and get "published secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject." Does this have to be on the web? I have the Grafik magazine article here. Although, I don't think I have conflict of interest because I have only met him in passing at shows of other artists and do not own or promote his work. Thanks for your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bengough99 (talk • contribs) 16:52, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi again Ben. No, the published secondary source material does not have to be on the web, though that obviously helps so that people can check it. But printed only things are fine as long as they are independent and reliable. Good luck with your search! --Slp1 (talk) 19:06, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

I know of this artist, thanks for the extra information. I think his show was in art review. I can add some links, if you want. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.30.111.226 (talk) 12:24, 15 April 2008 (UTC)