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[edit] Illness

This article makes several references to "his illness" but it is never specifically named. (Or did I just miss it somewhere within the article?)

his depression is mentioned several times in the article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 18:27, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Scholarship?

I may be wrong, but I think in Trevor Dann's biography of Drake he specifies that Drake did not win a scholarship to Fitzwilliam College, Cambridge, but just a place there--he was an unexceptional student academically in his last years at Marlborough and I gather from the biographies that he was given a place at Cambridge based on his potential.

[edit] Influences

I think this article "overdoes it," so to speak, with regard to the mention of artists that consider Drake an "important influence." I have been watching this article over the past six months or so and have noticed that, gradually, more and more keep slipping in. Not that these things are in any way factually inaccurate; it may be well and good that Norah Jones considers Drake an influence. My point is simply that the way they are presented here are too numerous and "tacked on," and have begun to ruin the prose of the article--which, in my opinion, used to flow beautifully from one paragraph to the next. I'd like the originator to fix this, as I feel that it's a great article that I don't want to edit.--Kwan-Trill 19:09, 19 April 2006 (UTC)


is it really appropriate to put nick drake under the suicide category? it is and never will be clear if he took his own life. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.164.61.162 (talk • contribs) 21:27, 30 October 2005.

What about the posthumous releases, and the recent BBC Radio 2 documentary? Andy Mabbett 21:47, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

{{sofixit}} - blankfaze | (беседа!) 21:55, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
{{wouldifIcould}} Andy Mabbett 22:40, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Removed it. I remember reading some years ago that the AD's he was on back then were fatal if more than one was taken. According to the article/recollection, it isn't clear if ND knew that or not. I don't remember if it said his doctors knew but didn't tell, or not. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 18.239.5.242 (talk • contribs) 00:45, 12 February 2006.

[edit] Virtuoso?

Beautiful article, one of my favorites; wouldn't dream of editing it. However...I don't necessarily believe that Nick would be considered a "virtuoso" guitarist by virtue of either his playing style or his playing in general. A gifted, incredibly talented, sophisticated songwriter indeed; but not a "virtuoso" in the purest sense. I have been a guitarist for many years and very much admire his work; Drake's playing is not exceptional either in usage or technique.

I'd venture most guitarists fond of alternate tunings and familiar with his work would disagree with you. His work in alternate tunings, combined with that unparalleled fingerpicking technique (not to mention how his guitarwork on the albums was nearly devoid of 'flubbings') is still a testament to his abilities, decades later. It wasn't just how well he played - it was *precise*. Listen to the enunciation in 'Road'. Listen to the almost-piano-sounding waterfall of group-picking in 'Hanging on a Star'. The closest English singer-songwriter I can think of who's come close to writing with such fluidity in alt. tunings is Mark Kozelek, and it still isn't the same. Any bloke with enough time can go to Iguana and pick up the tabs, and learn to play a song of his (Drake's) without too much trouble. But to play it with the note-by-note attention to detail (instead of flailing fingerpicking) the way Drake did - it requires a helluva lot of concentration, no matter how many years you've been playing.

To *write* songs like these to begin with - not just play them - yeah. He was definitely a cut above the rest. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 18.239.5.242 (talk • contribs) 00:39, 12 February 2006.

[edit] Lyrics

I wonder... Would it improve the page to have a little section of quotations from Drake's lyrics (River Man, Road, etc.)? ZephyrAnycon 18:56, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You could put it on Wikiquote; i just added a link to Wikiquote for Nick Drake at the bottom of the article. -℘yrop (talk) 23:01, Apr 3, 2005 (UTC)

Is it correct to describe "Fairport Convention" as a "supergroup"? Within Wikipedia, the word supergroup is defined as a group that consists of people who are already famous. That was not true of Fairport when they first got together. Ogg 10:45, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

certainly not correct; I'll fix that. --jamesgibbon 14:05, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

^^Amen!

[edit] Posthumous Popularity

Elliott Smith does not consider him an influence, he hadn't heard of him until late in his career. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.58.115.23 (talk • contribs) 04:35, 8 July 2005.

[edit] Father's occupation

I'm trying to fact-check this change: [1] Google has lots of articles stating that Nick Drake's father was a medical doctor - but most seem to be derived from Wikipedia itself. There is one which says he was an engineer: [2] Richard W.M. Jones 13:33, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

his father was most certainly and engineer in uganda —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.201.11.102 (talk • contribs) 23:26, 30 October 2005 .

Or ... surely that was Burma? 80.0.124.200 21:39, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

According to the liner notes of the Fruit Tree boxed set, his father was an engineer in Burma. Freshacconci 12:54, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

San Francisco Public Radio station KQED has recently aired a City Arts and Lectures program called Remembering Nick Drake (http://www.kqed.org/programs/radio/archive.jsp?progID=RD13) where Gabrielle Drake talked about the origins of the posthumous album with his early recordings. She said something very close to this: "our father was an (electronics? - not sure about this) engineer, so we had recording equipment at home much earlier than other households. That is how the early tapes of Nick came about". Unfortunately, this program does not provide transcripts, tapes or audio, so my memory is the only proof I can offer. But it has been less than 24hrs since I heard this. I went straight to wiki after the show :). Y2mamatambien (talk) 10:17, 29 November 2007 (UTC) Italic text

[edit] minor change

the use of "contemporary" was improper in that context; a person naive to the artists following that statement would be unsure if those artists existed in Drake's time or ours. Replaced it with "modern." 147.222.243.236 22:52, 9 December 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Singles

what does b/w stand for? anyone? 87.115.228.253 00:22, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

backed with - ie a side backed with b side. The joys of vinyl! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.3.248.243 (talk • contribs) 00:38, 12 February 2006.

[edit] Pink Moon sessions

Where does it say that the sessions recorded for Pink Moon were both recorded in precisely two hours each or that they both started at midnight? I know that Nick recorded this album in two nights and late at night but this seems a bit too specific. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 161.253.46.56 (talk • contribs) 09:38, 25 January 2006 .

done after midnight to save on recording costs, from what I remember —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.116.26.180 (talk) 22:21, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

It was in the Patrick Humphries book somewhere i'm sure of it. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 21:46, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mr Drake

I love him very much, but I regrettably I have nothing to add to his page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Notuxorious (talk • contribs) 11:23, 23 March 2006.


[edit] Category Removal

I removed the Suicide and Clinical Depression categories as no one knows what happened when he died and he may have been depressed but Clinically Depressed? Speculation in the article is find, as long as it is stated as specualtion, placing him in the cats is stating it as fact. IMO to include him in these categories is unencyclodedic and POV. If refs are known that would place him in these cats please show them, otherwise it just seems morbid to include them. --KaptKos 07:15, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

The source I cited contains quotes describing the cause of his depression as the lack of record sales. "When Bryter Layter didn't give Nick the success that everyone had expected, selling just 3-4000 copies at the time, Nick, who was already shy and introspective, began to show signs of depression" -- dUtch 23:54, 29 June 2006
Nick Drake died from an overdose, whether deliberate or accidental, of Amitriptyline (trade name Tryptizol), a tricyclic antidepressant. This medication, which requires a prescription, has no other purpose but the treatment of depression -- except possibly as a treatment for bedwetting (and a few off-label uses probably not known 30 years ago). His parents were aware he was taking it, so one assumes it had been prescribed by a physician. If it had been prescribed by a physician, it is fair to assume it was prescribed for depression. If a physician prescribed him medication for depression, then the physician must have diagnosed him as depressed. There is no other meaning of "clinically depressed" besides being diagnosed as depressed by a physician, so I'm at rather a loss to see how including him in this category could be considered either morbid or speculative. --Rrburke 17:08, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

From http://www.michaelorgan.org.au/drake4.htm The debilitating effects of such an illness can be extreme. It appears from published testimony that Nick Drake’s mental illness was very real, and that in dealing with it his parents Rodney and Molly played a central role. After 1971 Nick was forced to return home in order to deal with his illness. He could not survive alone, in his London apartment, but needed extra care. His parents would have assisted financially in having his illness diagnosed, in enabling Nick to be hospitalised during the most extreme periods of illness, and in ensuring that he had access to the various medications which could help him deal with the depression. It seems that the precise details of Nick’s illness and treatment were kept largely quiet, and within the family, perhaps due to the stigma then attached to mental illness, and fears that it could affect his career as a musician. It is unclear what was made public whilst he was still alive, though obviously a lot came out after his death, e.g. his hospitalisation and use of prescription drugs.Cuvtixo 17:33, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] source regarding depression

The quotes under the "depression" heading describe Drake's reaction to his low popularity as a cause of his depression. A friend is also quoted as describing his behavior regarding the administration of his anti-depressants while visiting her.

[edit] Face to wall in recording studio and shyness

Joe Boyd's recently released book "White Bicycles: Making Music in the 1960s" (Serpent's Tail, ISBN 1852429100) devotes the best part of two chapters to Boyd's recollections of Drake and working with him.

Boyd recalls that the released version of "River Man" was recorded in the studio with Drake and the orchestra following a conductor. Nowhere is there any mention of Drake chosing to record with his face to the wall. Robert Kirby was unable to come up with a suitable arrangement and so another arranger, Harry Robinson, was bought in. Drake and Boyd met with Robinson and Drake played along with a demo of the song stipulating what he wanted at various points of the song.

Boyd also describes engineer John Wood at length. Wood was an old style engineer who would spend a lot of time placing artists and microphones in different positions until he had the sound he wanted. Wood was also a fairly blunt character, it seems unlikely that he'd compromise a recording by indulging some musician's desire to face a wall.

Boyd makes it clear that Drake lacked confidence and was often undemonstrative, but I do think that urban legend has made Drake out to be shyer and more withdrawn than he really was. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bob Dubery (talk • contribs) 04:58, 3 July 2006.

recording acoustic guitar facing the wall is also a recording technique. it's done to diffuse the sound by bouncing off the wall and make it 'bigger'. it's not necessarily an indicator of shyness or withdrawal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 18:32, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lane Changes?

What on earth does lane changes mean in the following context?

'He attended public school at Marlborough College, where he learned how to perform lane changes to perfection.' —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Driverpj (talk • contribs) 14:59, 21 July 2006.

Vandalism, gone now. --Coil00 19:25, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


i think i remember reading richard thompson's name on the sleeve of a couple nick drake records. i just thought that was something interesting (although hardly surprising) that might be included. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.73.97.149 (talk • contribs) 15:20, 24 July 2006.

j.nemo

[edit] Anglo-Burmese

I added the category because on Anglo-Burmese people, it lists Drake as a notable. If this is inaccurate, see that page. Arual 10:18, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I've removed the mention of Drake from that article. Nick Drake was born in Burma but was not ethnically Burmese. freshacconcispeaktome 18:11, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Main problems with the article

  • I removed a large chunk of POV material from the article's lead, but traces of POV still remain in the main article.
  • Entire sections of the article are unreferenced, namely "Final Years" and "Posthumous Popularity". (fixed)
  • The "Music" section either needs to be expanded or removed, its too short and uninformitive now. *For whatever reason, the first 11 citations don't show up anywhere in the article. Also, some citations are repeated numerous times (such as the Trevor Dann piece). (fixed)
  • Too many one and two sentence paragraphs. (fixed)
  • Needs a thorough copyedit.
  • I'd recommend submitting the article to peer review. (article is far from ready)

Teemu08 21:27, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm, there seems to me to be some factual errors, (at least acording to the biography I read by Patrick Humphries,isbn:0 7475 303 5) namely:
  • While at Marlborough College and Fitzwilliam, he was not shy, and infact quite extroverted, especially with regard to his athletic prowess.
  • His success with the wind instuments was very limited, and they were more or less forced upon him.
  • Ican't really hear anything in his music what could be called double picking, this could be a misinterpretation of hybrid picking, but in fact he used only flesh and nail, not a pick.
Insist it persists 05:08, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Good points, now corrected Coil00 20:12, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Actually the intro to "Cello Song" and bass picking at the beginning of "Chime of the Clock" do use this technique amongst other songs. Drake largely played without a pick relying on his long fingernails to do the work for him. Reinsert? Sillyfolkboy (talk) 21:52, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
  • I was at Marlborough College with Nick Drake and certainly do not remember that he was in the College Rugby XV let alone its captain. He was a good athlete and played on the wing at rugby but I don't think he progressed to the 1st XV —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cbailward (talk • contribs) 20:33, 24 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Musical Issues

Before anyone thinks of placing this as a feature article, some really extensive work needs to be done on his music, his choice of tuneings and incredible guitar playing. How can anyone consider an article on Drake fit for F.A. without some considerable input on this subject? A paragraph on his lyrical themes is also badly wanting. Fergananim 12:38, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

It'd be great if some passing guitarist or English lit student could expand out the Music section. His lyrics are described at length here, his guitar technique here. If anyone wants a go at paraphrasing and summarising either, would be appreciated Coil00 21:12, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Musical Artist Infobox

Why does the infobox list Nick's "Origin" as Tanworth-in-Arden when he was born in Rangoon, Burma? --Rrburke 17:13, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Well spotted, now fixed Coil00 20:14, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
he received his powers in tanworth —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 20:48, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rise to popularity

The gap between 1985 and 1999.

It's misleading to illustrate the 1999 BBC documentary as the first major interest in Nick in the 1990's - there was a slow build towards his rediscovery and he was fairly well known in the late 90's, which was probably what prompted the doc. The build in his reputation through the 80's and 90's needs to be fleshed out here, alas I am not the person to do it. I am not a music buff but even I had heard of him before that 1999 documentary.

[edit] His time at the Université Paul Cézanne Aix-Marseille III

Since this university wasn't founded until 26 July 1973, how did he spend time there during the 60's? --Bob 22:28, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Not really understanding the difference between the two, and wanting to avoid a dead link, I ref'd the active article 'III'. They seemed to be branches of the same institution. If I'm incorrect, and if you want to flesh this out with a new article, or clarify the link (in some non obstructive way, obviously), that would be great. My sources are vague - Coil00 22:56, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Difference is that this university simply did not exist under the name of Aix-Marseille III during the 60's so he could not have attended it. The three universities based between Aix-en-Provence and Marseille are not branches of the same university but are distinct entities unto themselves albeit with large amounts of cooperation between them. I will relink to the article about the three. --Bob 14:59, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Archive FAC

I removed the FAC tag, and moved the first FAC to Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Nick Drake/Archive 1; when you're ready to re-nom, the link will go to Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Nick Drake. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:59, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Once again I'm thanking you ;) + Ceoil 23:41, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Hey, Ceoil, Jeffpw (talk · contribs) was on it as well, but my computer hung just as I was going to explain to him what I'd done - you should be all set for when you're ready to resubmit. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:43, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Query

Does anybody know how I might go about tracking down Nick Kent's 1975 NME article? + Ceoil 22:35, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Found a source. + Ceoil 00:44, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling

Fixed about 5 or 6 words. andreasegde 13:11, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Moving Pictures

Do in fact exist of Nick Drake, albeit of him as a child on a beach. They can be seen in A Skin Too Few.

there are no moving pictures of drake a an adult!

[edit] Date of death

Please explain how using the date of death template "looks daft" and "devalues" this article, I find that to be an opinion, expressed as though it were a fact. Andy Mabbett 01:13, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to know why "it looks daft and devalues the article". These templates are being used on many biographical articles throughout Wikipedia. CanbekEsen 01:12, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Point me towards a template discussion. I'm not a big fan of info boxes in general, much less so ones that state the blindingly obvious and underestimate the capability of readers. Is that enough for your coordinated contribution to this FA article. Further more, explicitly stating the age of death is goulish. Ceoil 01:19, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Discussion is at Template talk:Death date and age. You're simply restating your personal opinion. We've both asked you to justify it. Allegations of "coordination" breach WP:AGF and are, in any case, false. Andy Mabbett 12:03, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Your right about WP:AGF, its probably a little fantastic to imagine that ye bothered to coordinate a move of this template to the Nick Drake article, so I'm sorry about that. However, I don't see a lot of discussion on the talk link you provided, nor have I ever seen use of this template before. I really don't want to get dragged into a debate like this, except to say I strongly believe that ye are in a minority openion if you think addition of such a basic facts contribute to the project. This edit added the text "Died aged 26"; and that is, in my openion, low value info. Ceoil 02:21, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone else object to the use of the template on this article? Or agree ?Andy Mabbett 05:38, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
"I strongly believe that ye are in a minority openion" clearly, you are in the minority (2-1(). Reverting. Andy Mabbett 21:27, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
What's going on here. You arguments are poor, and I do not see this template on other FA bios. Go bother someone else. Ceoil 22:30, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Your tone is unacceptable. Also, please see [3] and WP:OWN. Andy Mabbett 22:37, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Brought it up here. Ceoil 22:44, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
I support the use of the Date of death template FWIW. --Tagishsimon (talk)
Ceoil, please observe WP:CIVIL. You've been around long enough to understand the principals of Wikipedia, so I'm sure you understand the concept of consensus. As it appears, you are the only one objecting to the use of this template. Adding information, of whatever value, is never a bad thing. So please, don't get frustrated over it. We have lost too many good editors due to frustration. --Edokter (Talk) 00:45, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Thats probably good advice. Consensus is now clearly against me and I respect that. Reading back over this, its just a difference of openion, and I was maybe a little over protective. Also, I don't really want to be featured on Lamest edit wars, and I won't revert again. Ceoil 18:31, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Julian Lloyd

To the best of my knowledge, the photo at the top of the article was taken in 1970, in north Wales, by Julian Lloyd (Lloyd-Weber?), in a very informal setting. I do not believe it to be a promo photo, as these were only ever taken by some Keith Harris, a photographer for Island Records. All were used in some form for his albums. Fergananim 17:31, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Linda Thompson

There is a reference to Linda Thompson in the article: "As with Linda Thompson...". This makes it seem like she was already talked about earlier in the article. Can a knowledgeable person add some content about her? 198.107.43.163 23:37, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Ok, cleared that up.Sillyfolkboy (talk) 22:00, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Five Leaves Left

Is it mentioned that "Five Leaves Left" is what is written on the sixth to last paper of a packet of rolling papers? It seems to have some significance, considering Drake's cannabis intake. --andreasegde 02:43, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

The sleeve notes for the Vinyl edition of Five Leaves Left say:

Five Leaves Left (which refers to the end of a pack of rolling papers) is a desensitizing psychic seduction.....

Worth adding to the main article?


AndyRiley (talk) 07:56, 26 December 2007 (UTC)Andy

[edit] Image in the infobox

'Magic Mushrooms' are small and dark - don't know what those are but it's potentially dangerous to mis-label them.

The image currently in the infobox, Image:Nick drake way to blue.jpg, is tagged as being the cover of an audio recording. As such, it can only be used to identify that audio recording, which is what it is doing at Way to Blue. On this article, however, it is labeled as being a promotional photo. If that's the case, it needs to be retagged and removed from Way to Blue. But in order for that to happen, adequate source information needs to be found proving that this photograph is really a publicity photo; not every professionally made portrait of a celebrity is! We have to be able to verify that the image was intended for redistribution, as opposed to being intended to appear on an album cover or the like. —Angr 16:04, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

AFAIK, the image was used in some magazine articles on Drake during the mid and late 1980s. It was later used on the cover of the 1994 compliation album Way to Blue. I have clarified in the image caption. Ceoil 14:35, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
If this version of the image is not the album cover, please change the tag on the image description page Image:Nick drake way to blue.jpg to reflect what it is, and remove it from Way to Blue. Better source information is needed too; at the moment it just says "www.amazon.com", which certainly isn't the author and copyright holder of the image. Moreover, I can't even find this exact image at Amazon; I can only find variations on it like [4], [5], [6], and [7]. —Angr 08:37, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] INSTRUMENTS AND ENGLISH LITERATURE

NICK DRAKE PLAYED GUITAR, PIANO, SWORD, CLARINET, AND HARMONICA (AS A HOBBY).

WHEN DID NICK START TO READ ENGLISH LITERATURE? WHAT AGE? I KNOW HE STARTED AT UNIVERSITY AT 19? BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHEN DID START READING LITERATURE IN SECONADARY SCHOOL YEARS? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.21.61.25 (talk) 09:45, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Calm down. He was reading lit from his early teens. Ceoil 17:48, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

LOL THANKS!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.21.61.25 (talk) 22:24, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Overdose Controversy?

I found this interesting page at http://www.michaelorgan.org.au/drake4.htm The Death of Nick Drake Suicide, Accidental Prescription Drug Overdose, or Heroin Casualty? It is well researched and has much information on Tryptizol/Amitriptyline A reassessment based on official accounts, recent medical and pharmacological evidence, and hearssay "Tryptizol is one of many brand names for the antidepressant drug Amitriptyline – the local coroner recorded Nick’s death as resulting from "Amitriptyline poisoning". It is one of a family known as Tricyclic Antidepressants (TCAs). It encourages sleep (a sedative) and alleviates anxiety in depression."

Cuvtixo 17:24, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi Cuvtixo, I've seen that site before, and tbh, I think that might be a fair assestment. Ceoil 17:46, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] UNIVERSITY

WHEN NICK WENT TO UNIVERSITY, WHAT LITERATURE DID HE STUDY? (E.G ROMANTISIM VICTORIAN) OR WHICH WRITER DID HE CHOOSE TO STUDY. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.21.61.25 (talk) 22:29, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Mostly William Blake, William Butler Yeats, and Henry Vaughan. Ceoil 03:05, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Best Rappa Alive

If you read about each of his 3 albums you can see they are all on RS 500 greatist albums so I do not need a source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Blizzard King (talk • contribs) 00:25, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 100 yard dash

It seems a bit disingeuous to record that Drake's "record for the 100 yards dash still stands" at Marlborough, since the race probably hasn't been run there since the advent of metrication 35 years ago. It'd be pretty unique, and notable, if his time over 100 metres hadn't been beaten in the past four decades. 86.144.97.5 09:13, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually a check reveals this claim dates back to Arthur Lubow's 1978 liner notes for the first Fruit Tree box set. Someone really needs to contact the school to get an update, as it's highly possible there have been changes to the status of the record in the past 30 years. 86.144.97.155 00:14, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, that's what in the source, but interesting fact though. Well spotted. Ceoil 13:10, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Elton John covers

On You Tube, there are a few recordings of Nick Drake songs by Elton John, the videos stating that he recorded them in 1968, both before the release of Five Leaves Left and somewhat early in Elton John's career. I understand You Tube is not considered a reliable source, but if anyone does have a reliable source or knows anything further about this, I think it would be a nice addition to the article. Here are the recordings on You Tube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0uIrNqJtSk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0GqTeu7t-I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPLgaQxa7sQ&feature=related 75.16.235.10 (talk) 02:45, 14 March 2008 (UTC)andrewlargemanjones

that sort of thing is probably best brushed under the carpet —Preceding unsigned comment added by Petchboo (talk • contribs) 15:49, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Hmm.... I'm not really sure about that. I mean, it is a big name artist making recordings of Nick Drake songs long before Drake was known by anyone, really. I think that could be relevant, though I'd want to know the details behind these recordings as well before determining whether it should be in the article or not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.16.227.202 (talk) 00:35, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

The covers were mentioned in the Patrick Humphreys Drake Biog so there's definite sources there. I think it's quite relevant seeing as Elton John is hardly a nobody. Anyone with the book to hand should find a place for the information and source it.Sillyfolkboy (talk) 18:45, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Scott Appel

If somebody wants to be constructive, they should go spruce up his page - and maybe also work him into this page somewhere. It remains baffling to me that as the years have gone by, and the interest has continued to grow, that his Nine Of Swords album has remained so overlooked. Because if there's ever some kind of competition for most important "appendix" type recording to the catalog, it is surely that. And if you consider yourself a true fan and have no idea what I'm talking about - you have some serious hunting down to do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.138.236.178 (talk) 15:17, 29 May 2008 (UTC)