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[edit] Real population data

The source of data for City of Nis - Statistical office of the Republic of Serbia [1] The real data for City of Nis populations are: City of Nis 250,518 Nis settlement 235,159 -- Gaston28


[edit] Population

Population according to the InfoPlease website]: 174,000. This was Wikipedia's former figure. Arguing would be fruitless. Wetman 20:06, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)

The data on this site [2] for the City of Nis are outdated. Also, I noticed that according to that document [3] Novi Sad, has 191,300, but according to this document [4] Novi Sad, has 190,602. -- Gaston28

(William M. Connolley 20:13, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)) Also http://www.library.uu.nl/wesp/populstat/Europe/yugoslft.htm 173,400 in 2002.

I have added population estimates, taken from city of Nis's official website: http://www.nis.org.yu/index-e.html; that is where you can check it out.Info from World Gazetter are quite unrelieable and old, and I think that the city can speak for itself through the website. NeroN_BG

Please do not use some untrustful web sites for these city population numbers. Here is the official document published by the Serbian government with population data for all cities and places in Serbia from the last 2002 census:

PANONIAN (talk) 00:37, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

http://www.szs.sv.gov.yu/Popis/PrviRez.pdf According to this document - Novi S. settlement has 190,602 but 'some' user personally added Petrovaradin and Sremska K. which resulted with larger population numbre. -- Gaston28

[edit] added romanian name

I added romanian name: (Romanian: Niş) -- Bonaparte talk 14:28, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Demographic data

Demographic data in the infobox was taken from http://webrzs.statserb.sr.gov.yu/ --estavisti 17:02, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The new city name

The new city name Nish it commes from albanien (north kosovo spoket) word Nish=1, Nomber One. Nish, dysh, tresh, katrshë ... one (or the first), second, ... --Hipi Zhdripi 03:33, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Absolute nonsense! There might be a similar word in Albanian, but it has nothing to do with the city's name.


Naissus i albanian njëshi i Lap Najshi--Hipi Zhdripi 01:33, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

ahah, Hipi, if that's so, then Tirana must have been the city of tyrants (serbocroatian: tiranin - tyrant, grad tirana - the city of the tyrants). Also, did you know how many exactly the same names of villages and towns exist in northern&central Serbia and southern Ireland? :)

to get back serious, Nish as a settlement exists from the times when Celtic tribes existed in the region. There are theories that Roman name for the city, which was Naissus, is overtaken from the celtic inhabitants, and slightly changed to response to Roman latin pronounciation, as celtic name may be Navissus or Naviscus, which literaly translated from their language means 'the river that can be easy crossed' or in another theory 'the river of a girl with magic powers'. It's about river Nishava around which the city of Nish is based, so most logicaly comes that settlement took the name of a river, what's not uncommon in ancient ages (and anyway it has been the case for Nish as early as in Roman times). After disasters caused by Huns and other tribes in 4th/5th centuries, Naissus is only partly recovered and known as Nissus, and after Slavic tribes overtaking it, records mention it as Nish, and river Nishava. Chronicles from 12th century made by Crusaders mention the place as Nisch, which is even today the valid name of the city in German language.

[edit] changed handball club name

Handball club DIN recently changed it's name to Naisa.

[edit] 250,000?!

Look at the [5] - The city of Nis has 173,724 inhabitants...

Why population is overestimated in almost every town in Serbia?! First stories I hear from poeple from from Serbia: Belgrade - 2 million...Novi Sad and Nis - at least half a million each...I hoped that on an encyclopedia I won't find "wannabe megalopolis" syndrome... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nije bitno... (talk • contribs)

I don't believe "Citypopulation.de" is an official source of the population. There wasn't a census done since 2002 I believe... I wouldn't be surprised if Belgrade does surpass 2 million with the refugees that have been coming in from Kosovo and various other places. As for Novi Sad, it is estimated that there are half a million [6]. Where you live (Podgorica, pop. 137,000), 250,000 people might be considered a "megalopolis" or any other way you put it, but in other parts of the world, it would still be considered a smaller town. Regards, -- Krytan  T  C  01:28, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Citypopulation.de quotes official census data. With the kind of investment Podgorica gets as a capital city, today it looks more like megalopolis than any provincial town of Serbia...85.94.98.223 17:40, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Population

Listen: Champ 000 or Gaston28 (what ever), this stupid revert war must to stop. I do not care if you want that your city is bigger than it actually is, but Wikipedia must use CORRECT data, not your wishes. Now, here are data published by the statistical office of Serbia from 2002 census:

  • City of Niš: 250,518 inhabitants. It was divided into two municipalities:
    • Municipality of Niš: 235,159 inhabitants
    • Municipality of Niška Banja: 15,359 inhabitants
      • Within Municipality of Niš there was also data for urban Niš - Niš (g), odnosno Niš grad, which had a population of 173,724.

Now, you must understand that first number listed there as "City of Niš" IS NOT A POPULATION OF URBAN NIŠ. "City of Niš" is a name of local unit of administration that include both, urban and rural areas, and, in English, it can be also called "municipal area", in another words, unit of local administration known as the "City of Niš" include the REAL city of Niš (urban Niš) and VILLAGES AROUND NIŠ. Now to explain you meaning of the terms: term "urban" describe the territory of REAL CITY (not of territory that is under administration of the city), while term "rural" describe settlements like villages that are not part of the real city. I hope that you understand this difference now (A ako sve to već znaš samo me zajebavaš da ti objašnjavam ove banalne stvari i ako ti je stvarni cilj vandalizovanje članka i namerno dezinformisanje ubacivanjem lažnih brojeva, nemoj da misliš da ću ti to dozvoliti. Šta si dosad uradio, uradio si, ali sa tim je sada gotovo...). PANONIAN (talk) 23:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

- Ajde! Slusaj Mićo, optuzbe kojima nekoga optuzujes za kloniranje korisnickih naloga ces morati da dokazes. Ti proizvoljno interpretiras podatake, sto si dokazao kada si u slucaju NS cifru od priblizno 190 000 zamenio pribliznom cifrom od 215 000, a fraze ovakovog tipa "Šta si dosad uradio, uradio si, ali sa tim je sada gotovo..." rezervisi za krug tvoje porodice. Tamo ce te neko mozda i shvatiti ozbiljno. - Gaston28 14 June 2007

[edit] Rewrite

This article really needs to be rewritten from the economy section and downward. It's just a long, compelling list from that section. --Bolonium (talk) 22:06, 27 November 2007 (UTC)