Template talk:NFL team

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
American football Portal
This template is part of WikiProject National Football League, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to the NFL on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.
Template This article has been rated as Template-Class on the quality scale.
(If you rated the article please give a short summary on the comment page to explain the ratings and/or to identify the strengths and weaknesses.)

Template description: Infobox for National Football League teams.

Notice Important note: New additions to this template should be discussed before they are implemented. Changes to this template's length may significantly alter the formatting of the images on the NFL team articles, and the season-by-season tables, on either 800x600 or 1024x768 display resolution monitors

Infobox code

{{NFL team | name =
| founded =
| logo =
| city =
| nicknames =
| colors =
| coach =
| owner =
| song =
| mascot =
| affiliate_old =
| NFL_start_yr =
| division_hist =
| hist_misc =
| hist_yr =
| hist_misc2 =
| no_league_champs =
| league_champs =
| no_sb_champs =
| sb_champs =
| no_pre1970sb_champs =
| pre1970sb_champs =
| no_div_champs =
| div_champs =
| stadium_years =
}}
  • name Name of the team
  • founded Year when the team was founded
  • logo File name of the image logo, in the form image_name.ext
  • city Name of the city where the team is based in, in the form City, State
  • nicknames [OPTIONAL] Other team nicknames
  • colors Team colors
  • coach Current head coach
  • owner Current team owner
  • song [OPTIONAL] Fight song
  • mascot [OPTIONAL] Team mascot
  • affiliate_old [OPTIONAL] A list of the team's previous league, conference, and division affiliations prior to joining the NFL
  • NFL_start_yr Year the team joined the NFL
  • division_hist A list of the team's previous and current conference and division affiliations in the NFL
  • hist_misc [OPTIONAL] A list of the team's previous names
  • hist_yr The year that the team started to used its current name
  • hist_misc2 [OPTIONAL] Reserved for addition notes about the team's previous names
  • no_league_champs [OPTIONAL] Total number of league championships, default value is 0
  • league_champs [OPTIONAL] A list of the seasons in which the team has won a league championships prior to the Super Bowl era
  • no_sb_champs [OPTIONAL] Total number of Super Bowl championships, default value is 0
  • sb_champs [OPTIONAL] A list of the Super Bowls that the team has won
  • no_pre1970sb_champs [OPTIONAL] Total number of Super Bowl championships prior to the 1970 AFL-NFL Merger
  • pre1970sb_champs [OPTIONAL] A list of the Super Bowls that the team has won prior to the 1970 AFL-NFL Merger
  • no_conf_champs [OPTIONAL] Total number of conference championships, default value is 0
  • conf_champs [OPTIONAL] A list of the seasons in which the team has a conference championship
  • no_div_champs [OPTIONAL] Total number of division championships, default value is 0
  • div_champs [OPTIONAL] A list of the seasons in which the team has a division championship
  • stadium_years A list of the team's previous and current home fields

Contents

[edit] Associated templates

I created the following associated templates to help bypass the redirects for AFC and NFC.

  • Template:NFL team/AFC
  • Template:NFL team/NFC

Zzyzx11 (Talk) 21:18, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion

can we add a line for "number of NFL / Super Bowl Championships" ??

  • Eventually, but it is currently low priority, especially since they are all currently listed in the lead section of all of the NFL team articles. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 07:57, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
  • I recently added it now Zzyzx11 (Talk) 19:55, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] New additions

I add new fields for the previous team nicknames and affiliations, along with a seperate row to list league championships other than Super Bowls. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 15:47, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Revisions

I have reworked the current NFL Team infobox by expanding it. I have though only applied it to the Chicago Bears page as of now. To view the code visit Template:NFL team demo.

  • Note: I have proposed a way we can determine the Championships:

1920-1969: counts as an NFL Championship unless that team won a SB I-IV 1966-1969: AFL-NFL Super Bowl Championships: I-IV 1960-1969: AFL Championships unless that team won a superbowl which would fall under the AFL-NFL Super Bowl Championships 1970-present: Super Bowl Championships

Happyman22

  • With all respect, you are putting way too much data in the Template:NFL team demo. Testing possible combinations on different NFL team articles (especially the short ones like Atlanta Falcons), and both 800x600 and 1024x768 monitors, the length screws up the formatting of the images on the articles, and the season-by-season table. I suggest removing the retired numbers and hall of fame players as we do list them later in articles. Best. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 19:39, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
    • And yes, I know that Template:MLB infobox lists them, but they can get away with it because their articles are more developed. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 19:48, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Ok, I am willing to list the home fields on the infobox, and maybe the mascot and fight song, but I am very hesitant on putting everything but the kitchen sink on there. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 20:45, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
  • I see what you are saying. Thanks for taking my suggestions. As for in the future, we can keep the info boxes as they are now and maybe create something new in the article for retired numbers and hall of famers.

Happyman22

  • Another thing..why not keep the all-time record in there?

Also should we call the 1966-1970 as the AFL-NFL Super Bowl Championships becase that's how they are referred by the NFL and by our own articles?

--Happyman22 01:58, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

  • Here's what I have been doing so far:
    • I am slowly adding data to the infobox, seeing how long in length they go. Another reason I want to do this is to get rid of those lists in the lead section because they really should not belong there.
    • I use to have all-time records in the infobox, but I removed them after a couple of weeks into the 2005 season. Only some of the articles were being updated to reflect the results of the recently completed games (by various users and anonymous IPs), but most of them were not, and I was just too busy to update them all by myself. I plan to put them back maybe sometime after the regular season is over (updated, of course, with the results of the 2005 season).
    • Yes, I am still having problems with the 1966-1970 AFL-NFL Super Bowl Championships. It further complicates matters when Super Bowl III was really the first one to official be called the "Super Bowl". So you get sites like the Pro Football Hall of Fame listing the Jets Super Bowl championship and the 1968 AFL Championship seperately [1], but other sites like Sportsline.com, that only lists the AFL championship but not the Super Bowl win. [2] Zzyzx11 (Talk) 03:01, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

I have added a general manager field so that information can be included on team pages. Spicy 15:01, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

  • Also, will update each team's article. Spicy 15:03, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AFL-NFL Super Bowl Championships, revisited

I added two new parameters, no_pre1970sb_champs and pre1970sb_champs, to indicate on the Packers, Jets, and Chiefs articles that these Super Bowls were won prior to the AFL-NFL Merger. Using a template conditional formula, they will toggle a footnote message similar to the content on http://www.packers.com/history/championships/ that they include the pre-merger Super Bowl wins in the Packers 12 overall championships. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 15:40, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I have revisited this idea and on the History of NFL Championships franchise page, I reworked the table. After the subject was brought up to me by an AFL advocate, it came to me that the first four Super Bowl champions were not league but indeed world champions. That means that the 12-time Green Bay Packer world champion motto is only in effect because they won the first two super bowls, had they lost one or both of them, their motto would have to be 12-time NFL Champion, which it also states on their website. What I am asking for is if someone who is an expert at this infobox create an optional option for a world championship list above the league, conference, and division championship section of the Championships section on the team box to be applied to the three world championship teams. --Happyman22 04:56, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Too much data

Looking at the infobox, I feel like we should scale it back. There is way too much data on here. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 16:03, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Renaming

Does anyone object renaming the League titles section to Championships since all the championships are called championships like division championships? --Happyman22 18:36, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Retired Numbers

How about adding the option of placing retired numbers by the franchises in the info box, but making the feature optional so users can add it to each franchise if they wish. I would like to add it to the Chicago Bears article because as it looks now the article ends with too many tables and I believe will never achieve feature status if it looks like it looks now.

I do not agree for two reasons: Again, the infobox is a little too long as it is. But also, you open up the pandora's box with those teams such as the Ravens and Cowboys which do not officially retire jerseys, but do "retire" players into their Ring of Honor/Fame. Then you have caveats like the Bills, Dolphins, Bengals, Steelers, and the Lions that have some unofficially retired numbers. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 19:43, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Besides, I am quite surprised about your concern about how the Chicago Bears ends - although I will admit I do not know what the current culture is on FAC. This was the version when Arsenal_F.C. was promoted. And this was the version when New England Patriots was promoted. As you can see, there are very simple bulleted lists at the end, which in my view is a little less noticable than wikitables. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 19:57, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
It was not really a problem with FIFA World Cup either. [3] Zzyzx11 (Talk) 20:22, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stylized uniform template

Helmet
Left arm Body Right arm
Trousers
Socks
Notre Dame


I created {{American football uniform}}, to mirror {{Football kit}} (i.e., soccer uniform), {{baseball uniform}} and {{basketball kit}}. I think it would be great to add stylized uniforms to the team template, as is done here: {{Infobox football club}} and here {{Infobox baseball team}}, to give a visual representation of the team colors. Rolando 07:50, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Helmet

The NFL Europa team infobox Template:NFLE_team has helmet linked to football helmet, does anyone object to the same being done here? 172.188.3.133 10:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Season links

  • Why doesn't this template provide a link (at least) to the current and a handful of previous seasons?
  • Many people would likely be checking when a player joined the team, what he did statistically last or in YEAR XXXX, or what the team did in a previous season against team xyz, etc. Hence, while unlettered and unlearned in the syntax to construct "2006 Pittsburgh Steeler season", they know how to reach "Pittsburgh Steelers" -- wherein we ought to make it easy to back link to the article covering said season.
  • Note links provide one handed navigation for those of us who like to browse and read lying back Roman banquet style while watching the tube! Typing two handed while lying on one's side isn't easy (and may be impossible--I certainly can't do it! <g>) but is a fun and relaxed way of browsing.
  • A sub-template of internal form Template:Catlist (edit talk links history) can be worked up given the earliest and final seasons as parameters, and do all the work... which would be presented as a set of links in table form by years end (e.g. 60 61 62 63 ... 07) and so forth similar to the calendar templates providing a nav boxed section so readers can navigate easily to the year of their interest.
  • The same template can then be used to provide the same set of links on the season's template for a team, giving a random access capability to readers as well. // FrankB 14:09, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
The season links are not currently included primarily because this has been an infobox template, designed to present summary information about an article's subject, not a navigation template, providing a list of of links to several articles. The season links use to be on Template:New England Patriots and other similar navigation boxes, but were removed for some reason, [4] and then put on Template:New England Patriots seasons and others. I would prefer that you use that template instead of copying it on the infobox here. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 15:18, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Uniform Images

Hello. I am the Silent Wind of Doom, and I am the creator of the uniform images that are used by all of the MLB baseball pages, as can be seen in each team's infoboxes. Well, last night, I finally finished my latest project, creating uniform images in the same style for the NFL. Here's a sampling.

250px
Seattle Seahawks Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jacksonville Jaguars

I would like to now add these to the infobox. On the Chicago Bears page, you can see that they use a different template (I'll fix that as I add them) and the formatting has already been done, so I can quickly move that over and everything will be taken care of. I would have done this all myself, but the page said to first mention it here for debate. I'm glad I could help out the NFL pages, and please, if there's any issues with the images, whether there may be an inaccuracy or anything else, leave a message on my page and I'll fix it quickly as I can. --Silent Wind of Doom (talk) 13:19, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Hmm... Well, I'm not getting any response at all. It doesn't seem like anyone's patrolling this area. If there's no response here by tomorrow night, I'll simply implement the images. --Silent Wind of Doom (talk) 00:27, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Oddly enough, this would be the reason why I came by here. You might try Wikipedia:WikiProject National Football League rather than the template talk page. Templates don't really get a lot of traffic, but the NFL wikiproject does. But in response to your question, I'm thinking the various current uniforms are an excellent idea for the template. Much better than just the current helmet image. --Bobblehead (rants) 21:49, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] General manager?

I think something needs to be done with this. Since each team has so may different executives/directors with many different roles, it's impossible to pin the title of "General Manager" on most teams, even those who have a GM. I think the field should be deleted, and the staff templates can speak for themselves as to who does what in each organization. Pats1 T/C 19:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)