Talk:NFL playoffs, 2005–06

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[edit] Bracket: Image vs. table

At first I thought the bracket wasn't a good idea, but I'm getting used to it. The only problem I have is, only certain people (i.e. those with graphic manipulation software) can edit it. I have designed a (makeshift) table as a possible way of allowing everybody to edit it (which is the WP philosophy, neh?), here:

I have moved the syntax I posted to User:KramarDanIkabu/NFL playoff bracket#Syntax for archival purposes

which looks like:

I have moved the bracket I posted to User:KramarDanIkabu/NFL playoff bracket#Appearance for archival purposes

Now, admittedly neither of those are pretty, so please edit this to make it look nicer, or if you disagree say so. KramarDanIkabu 05:58, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Its not bad but I think there are too many lines and the rankings are hard to seperate from the scoreline. Maybe just have the rankings in brackets next the name of the team and remove those extra lines. Plus if its possible have the winner between the names of the two teams that played. Lummie 13:32, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
I edited it to more like what you suggested, though I'm not sure if I quite got all your meaning. KramarDanIkabu 17:56, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Sorry I more meant that the lines are somewhat distracting. If they were made invisible the table would just look neater. And the comment about winners between the names, more that instead of having the name of the winner right next to one name looks a little confusing. If you had the name of the winner halfway between the two names of the teams playing its a bit easier to read. Nothing hugely important
Overall its a nice looking table and the changes are good! Lummie 02:59, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

I made a dramatic change to the table so that it actually looks like a bracket. Regarding the ranking vs the score, I switched the (n) to #n to disambiguate the seed number. The format is on par for the same complexity sans acouple borders... ZMan 01:52, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

New proposed fromat is here:

{| style="width: 80%; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-
! colspan="4" style="border:1px solid black;"| American Football Conference
! colspan="6" style="border:1px solid black;"| 2005-06 National Football League playoffs
! colspan="4" style="border:1px solid black;"| National Football Conference
|-
! colspan="2" style="border:1px solid black;"| Wild card playoffs
! colspan="2" style="border:1px solid black;"| Divisional playoffs
! colspan="2" style="border:1px solid black;"| Championship
! colspan="2" style="border:1px solid black;"| [[Super Bowl XL]]
! colspan="2" style="border:1px solid black;"| Championship
! colspan="2" style="border:1px solid black;"| Divisional playoffs
! colspan="2" style="border:1px solid black;"| Wild card playoffs
|-
|{{bracket gapcell |12}}
|-
| {{bracket bottomcell |#6 |'''[[Pittsburgh Steelers|Pittsburgh]]''' |31 }}
| {{bracket gapcell |4}}
| colspan="2" align="center" | '''Champion'''
| {{bracket gapcell |4}}
| {{bracket bottomcell |#5 |'''[[Carolina Panthers|Carolina]]''' |23 }}
|-
| {{bracket gapcell |2}}
| {{bracket bottomleftcell |#6 |'''[[Pittsburgh Steelers|Pittsburgh]]''' |21 }}
| {{bracket gapcell |2}}
| colspan="2" style="border:1px solid black;" align="center" |''Super Bowl winner''
| {{bracket gapcell |2}}
| {{bracket bottomrightcell |#5 |'''[[Carolina Panthers|Carolina]]''' |29 }}
| {{bracket gapcell |2}}
|-
| {{bracket bottomrightcell |#3 |[[Cincinnati Bengals|Cincinnati]] |17 }}
| {{bracket gapcell |2}}
| {{bracket bottomleftcell |#6 |'''[[Pittsburgh Steelers|Pittsburgh]]''' |34 }}
| {{bracket gapcell |2}}
| {{bracket bottomrightcell |#5 |[[Carolina Panthers|Carolina]] |14 }}
| {{bracket gapcell |2}}
| {{bracket bottomleftcell |#4 |[[New York Giants|NY Giants]] |0 }}
|-
| {{bracket gapcell |2}}
| {{bracket bottomrightcell |#1 |[[Indianapolis Colts|Indianapolis]] |18 }}
| {{bracket gapcell |2}}
| colspan="2" style="border-right:1px solid black; border-left:1px solid black;" |  <br />
| {{bracket gapcell |2}}
| {{bracket bottomleftcell |#2 |[[Chicago Bears|Chicago]] |21 }}
| {{bracket gapcell |2}}
|-
| {{bracket gapcell |6}}
| {{bracket bottomleftrightcell |#1 |[[Seattle Seahawks|Seattle]] |-- }}
| {{bracket gapcell |6}}
|-
| {{bracket bottomcell |#5 |[[Jacksonville Jaguars|Jacksonville]] |3 }}
| {{bracket gapcell |4}}
| {{bracket bottomleftrightcell |#6 |[[Pittsburgh Steelers|Pittsburgh]] |-- }}
| {{bracket gapcell |4}}
| {{bracket bottomcell |#6 |'''[[Washington Redskins|Washington]]''' |17 }}
|-
| {{bracket gapcell |2}}
| {{bracket bottomleftcell |#4 |[[New England Patriots|New England]] |13 }}
| {{bracket gapcell |2}}
| {{bracket nobottomleftrightcell }}
| {{bracket gapcell |2}}
| {{bracket bottomrightcell |#6 |[[Washington Redskins|Washington]] |10 }}
| {{bracket gapcell |2}}
|-
| {{bracket bottomrightcell |#4 |'''[[New England Patriots|New England]]''' |28 }}
| {{bracket gapcell |2}}
| {{bracket bottomleftcell |#2 |[[Denver Broncos|Denver]] |17 }}
| {{bracket nobottomleftrightcell }}
| {{bracket bottomrightcell |#1 |'''[[Seattle Seahawks|Seattle]]''' |34 }}
| {{bracket gapcell |2}}
| {{bracket bottomleftcell |#3 |[[Tampa Bay Buccaneers|Tampa Bay]] |10 }}
|-
| {{bracket gapcell |2}}
| {{bracket bottomrightcell |#2 |'''[[Denver Broncos|Denver]]''' |27 }}
| {{bracket gapcell |6}}
| {{bracket bottomleftcell |#1 |'''[[Seattle Seahawks|Seattle]]''' |20 }}
| {{bracket gapcell |2}}
|}

which looks like:

American Football Conference 2005-06 National Football League playoffs National Football Conference
Wild card playoffs Divisional playoffs Championship Super Bowl XL Championship Divisional playoffs Wild card playoffs
Template:Bracket gapcell
Template:Bracket bottomcell Template:Bracket gapcell Champion Template:Bracket gapcell Template:Bracket bottomcell
Template:Bracket gapcell Template:Bracket bottomleftcell Template:Bracket gapcell Super Bowl winner Template:Bracket gapcell Template:Bracket bottomrightcell Template:Bracket gapcell
Template:Bracket bottomrightcell Template:Bracket gapcell Template:Bracket bottomleftcell Template:Bracket gapcell Template:Bracket bottomrightcell Template:Bracket gapcell Template:Bracket bottomleftcell
Template:Bracket gapcell Template:Bracket bottomrightcell Template:Bracket gapcell
Template:Bracket gapcell Template:Bracket bottomleftcell Template:Bracket gapcell
Template:Bracket gapcell Template:Bracket bottomleftrightcell Template:Bracket gapcell
Template:Bracket bottomcell Template:Bracket gapcell Template:Bracket bottomleftrightcell Template:Bracket gapcell Template:Bracket bottomcell
Template:Bracket gapcell Template:Bracket bottomleftcell Template:Bracket gapcell Template:Bracket nobottomleftrightcell Template:Bracket gapcell Template:Bracket bottomrightcell Template:Bracket gapcell
Template:Bracket bottomrightcell Template:Bracket gapcell Template:Bracket bottomleftcell Template:Bracket nobottomleftrightcell Template:Bracket bottomrightcell Template:Bracket gapcell Template:Bracket bottomleftcell
Template:Bracket gapcell Template:Bracket bottomrightcell Template:Bracket gapcell Template:Bracket bottomleftcell Template:Bracket gapcell
I like it except for a couple things. I'm wary of all the extrenuous spaces in the syntax for one. I also don't understand the "colspan='1'"s which seem pointless. I also don't like the bottom division playoff games having home team on top and road on bottom. Just a few things. KramarDanIkabu 18:19, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
I removed the extra spacing(it was there for readability). I also removed the extra columns(they were there to give a small space between the teams in the superbowl slots and the lines...but that is unneeded). Then switched out the order of the bottom half of the divisionals to reflect location of games. I believe this takes care of all KramarDanIkabu's concerns. ZMan 02:59, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
I like this but I think it would look nicer if we replaced the name of the city in the bracket with the helmet of the team :) And also I think the bracket should be the first thing on top, not in the buttom. Chaldean 19:47, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
I like the idea of a bracket but don't like the execution. I really like the way CBS Sportsline does their bracket. I have taken a screen capture of their bracket and uploaded it as an example (although it's probably copyrighted so we might not be able to use it on the main page, I'm not sure). Maybe someone could make it look more like this. The image is here: http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9847/0506bracket0fi.jpg. By the way, the direct link to their bracket is http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/playoffrace/bracket
It's an okay bracket but I don't see what it adds to ours that we don't already have (except for helmet pictures, which are unnecessary). KramarDanIkabu 17:34, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
Interestingly enough that is the exact bracket that I modeled my first incarnation of this bracket after. The helmets aren't appealing nor would they likely easily be added to the article, thus in my opinion should be left off. The orginal bracket is too large and doesn't fit on smaller screens. I found the resulting score: DEN d. NE 27-13, was floating in a non-visually apealling location and could more concisely be relayed. I too like the horizontal and vertical symetry of the CBS bracket but, as was mentioned before, the CBS bracket looses who was the home team.
I'd like to suggest that we move the bracket to the main article soon. ZMan 05:20, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Don't you guys agree that the brackets should be the first thing on top? Chaldean 22:41, 27 January 2006 (UTC)