Talk:NExBTL

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As a layperson, I can't yet understand the explanation given to distinguish NExBTL from biodiesel. For example links to an explanation of alkene.

I hope the author could more simply explain for us the basic process of making NExBTL and how it is different and how the end result is different from biodiesel.

In very simple terms, e.g. biodiesel, in my mind, takes a molecule of oil produced by plants, which is very long in comparison to diesel oil, and, using other chemicals, breaks it into shorter strands that makes molecules very similar to diesel (and some byproducts from the reaction). Could you make an explanation equally simple for NExBTL?

  • I understand that this is made without the transesterification step, but my biggest question is "what is the gel point", particularly compared with petrodiesel and biodiesel. Also, will it blend with either the two? Does it have the lube qualities that biodiesel has over petrodiesel? Article really needs some expanding. Pharmboy 16:44, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
    • Went and dug up the info on gel point/cloud point. If anyone has any data on use with traditional biodiesel to lower the cloud point when blended, I would love to hear it. That could fix one problem with biodiesel here in the US. Pharmboy 14:47, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Patents?

Vuo and others, it would be helpful to have some info on the patents involved, as I am assuming this is a patented process, whereby others can't duplicate this process with a license. I think that is necessary in an article like this, or if it isn't covered by patents, clarifying this would be helpful. I looked a little bit and didn't find enough info to be sure on this point. Pharmboy (talk) 20:07, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

It is most certainly propertiary process so it it extensively patented. Im pretty sure i spotted the right U.S patent from esp@cenet. If i understood the patent right it covers any means of converting feedstock containing more than 10% of fatty acids to diesel range hydrocarbon chains. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.114.30.102 (talk) 16:26, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Renewable diesel

I think that this process is one example of a relatively new category of processes for making "renewable diesel" (NOT biodiesel). I know of a least one other major effort which is a partnership between Cononco-Philips and Tyson Foods. If anyone knows about renewable diesel in general, we should also have an article on this. ike9898 (talk) 15:07, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

  • If anyone knows of another example of a company making renewable diesel, then we would have a reason for a separate article on Renewable diesel as well, since this is compatible with, but very different from biodiesel. PHARMBOY (TALK) 18:42, 20 February 2008 (UTC)