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[edit] Non-new entries

Could we include major updates to existing pages on this page? Many of the updates I had listed (see history) took stub pages with 4 lines of text and converted them to articles. I think readers and editors watching the New Articles page may want to know when a stub or an existing article undergoes significant growth and revision. As an editor expanding the stubs, I definitely want to advertise these changes to get input from readers and fellow editors. In addition, I think this is a valid place for advertising new aviation-related articles such as the FICON piece. We could create a separate "new articles" page I guess but IMHO that's too much compartmentalization. Emt147 04:08, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

It's all yours, mate. Geoff/Gsl 04:37, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for being understanding. :) Emt147 05:09, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cross posting

New articles for military aircraft types should also be posted at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/New articles. - Aerobird Target locked - Fox One! 16:12, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Recently-discovered new articles

Several months ago, I put in this section heading for new article wich had been created in previous months to the current one, but had not been listed. It now seems it's being used for new articles created during the current month, but which were not added by the creator. THis throws of the counts of the article categories. I really don't mind if it is used this way, but I think we ought to at least try to get some more opinions on this. We don't have to change this month's list unless we want to, but we wcould clarify the section heading with a rewrite or hidden note for next month. Thanks. - BillCJ 19:26, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Probably my fault I thought that you could only add articles you had created in the main categories - I discovered that a lot of articles were being created by others but not listed , a lot of them needed wider attention so I started listing articles created by others in the recently-discovered bit. Quite happy if they are put in the right category if that is the concensus. As it takes time every day to do is it actually usefull ? MilborneOne 19:45, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
I used it to gather articles that had not yet been tagged for the Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation (as they possibly had not yet been counted/included in the project).--MoRsE 19:50, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

I always assumed anyone could add new articles to the main lists. I guess we'll see if someone else remembers what it was supposed to be. If not, we can just try to reach a consensus on how to handle it. It's not really a big deal, only we should all use the sections the same way for consistency. - BillCJ 20:12, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

BillCJ - you're absolutely right that originally anyone was adding any new articles to the current month, whether they had started them or not. The purpose was really as an invitation for help and input from other project members. Back then, there were still a significant number of articles about aircraft from contributors outside this project; meaning that it was a big job to add navigation templates and specs. Now that the vast majority of articles on aircraft are produced "in house" as it were, the cleanup function of the page is gone. Now, it's probably valuable mostly for its motivational value, and I guess for anyone interested in tagging articles, as MoRsE suggests. I started training a bot to help identify new aircraft articles - I'll move the controls to the New Articles page here in case anyone else finds it useful - it doesn't do too bad a job now. --Rlandmann 20:39, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
Should we now add Found articles into appropriate list, albeit they may not be up to project standards - one presumes thay would be dealt with by editors watching this page ? MilborneOne 13:58, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
IMHO we should add new discovered articles regardless their standards. I'm looking at New articles (Aircraft) and I'm trying tweak / standarize new articles or at least add them to my watch list. Piotr Mikołajski 14:55, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Italian flag

Someone seems to have changed the code for the Italian flag. the {{flagicon|Italy|1861}} [[Italy]] displays only Flag of Italy Italy, while you have to write {{flagicon|Italy|1861-state}} [[Italy]] in order to display the result Flag of Italy Italy. A lot of aircraft articles are now just displaying the text "Italy". I have tried to correct some, but I really don't have an idea how many other are affected, as I am having trouble with my AWB-bot (the old version refuses to start, and a new one can't be installed). I will however try to fix them when I see them, but any help would be appreciated. --MoRsE 19:59, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

User talk:Piotr Mikołajski is pretty good at using flag templates, and the main person behind our using them in the project of late. He may have an answer for you. I do know that there have been some disputes in the Flag project lately, and it is causing havoc with a number of templates, such as {{ROC}}. Piotr has proposed setting up guidelines for flag usage in our project, and perhaps we might even consider doing our own templates ofr them, if that's allowed/we can get permission. - BillCJ 20:17, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
{{flag|Italy|1861}} is code for civil flag - Flag of Italy Italy but {{flag|Italy|1861-state}} is code for war flag - Flag of Italy Italy. In fact we have no standard for posting flags and some aircraft operated in Italy have civil flag, others have war flag. IMHO we should talk about it on WP:AIR talk page and set some guidelines. When such guidelines will be prepared I'll make list with all necessary codes and comments about timeline. Regards, Piotr Mikołajski 14:55, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Recently discovered articles

Just noticed that articles are being deleted and amended in older parts of the list. Somebody please correct me if I am wrong but I thought that any found articles older than the current month are put in recently discovered articles rather than edit the historic lists? Refer to discussion further up list. MilborneOne (talk) 12:49, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Up to spec?

Looking at, for instance, Curtiss XP-31 Swift, the template {{aircraft specifications }} doesn't offer an option to add fuel capacity. Seems to me that's something essential, no? Trekphiler (talk) 19:14, 27 January 2008 (UTC)