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Contents 1 connenction 2 new article draft 3 What do the small boxes mean after a word? 4 HOW TO WRIT IN GREASEMONKEY SCRIPTS? 5 ethanol? 6 Retrieving deleted article 7 What to do? An offshoot of TIQM (transactional interpretation QM) 8 Changing your username 9 Natalie Zemon Davis 10 Wiki graphist contributions 11 Article written on "Mikayla Gilbreath" was deleted. 12 protection req 13 how do I move an article? 14 Creating an article 15 Creating an article -- part II 16 citation 17 New Entry 18 Deleting and uploading same image 19 How to have a license to upload your own file? 20 References & Sales Figures 21 How to handle bio information provided by the subject 22 Contact address for a public person 23 Page adding 24 Changing the main title 25 ARTICLE DOES NOT APPEAR 26 ARTICLE ON USER PAGE 27 ARTICLE CAN'T BE FOUND 28 ARTICLE ON PERSON WITH SAME NAME 29 Thomas Riley article 30 License for image 31 Editing Concern 32 Science experiments 33 disappearing table 34 PV Crystalox Solar PLC 35 Adding photos to an article 36 how do I enter a article that I have already written 37 Is there an easy way to format an article 38 College: The Musical 39 Edit a reference 40 NOTES, NOTES---EVERYWHERE...To much information 41 Article deletion 42 how to make edits become article 43 IMAGE CANDIDATE FOR SPEEDY DELETION - NO COPYRIGHT INFO 44 Jordan Jeffries 45 looking for joob 46 Change Wikipedia UserName 47 Not blatant advertising. 48 editing index page 49 geographical map 50 Updating Wikipedia for The American College, Bryn Mawr, PA 51 In development tags? 52 How can I add a word or "term" to Wikipedia that I created about 2 years ago and has become widely used in some very popular (Craigslist) discussion boards? Rvanhuss2 (talk) 07:54, 13 May 2008 (UTC) 53 identifing a plant. 54 Why was my edit reverted? 55 Request for article 56 made a text and now it's gone 57 Userpages and Userboxes? 58 Posting a new article to Wikipedia 59 User recognized in English Wikipedia, but not in Danish. 60 Editing on page Samrat Hem Chandra Vikramaditya or HEMU 61 What is Wikipedia? 62 "Copyrighted Material" 63 How to make a page 64 K. Alonzo Hart 65 adding text from a website from which I am authorized to borrow 66 pictures 67 Contributing to other wikipedia versions with the same name? 68 My Bio 69 cover pictures 70 How do i do it? (NPOV issue) 71 Hilton 72 How to search for a newly uploaded article 73 reporting a mistake 74 adding picture to article 75 Publishing an article from User Page 76 Notability questions? 77 I am now blocked from uploading files. Please help 78 Uploading 79 External Links 80 Blog External Links 81 Automatic Archiving: "Greenhouse Effect" 82 Password not accepted; how to make one upload listing 83 "Mike Cejka" entry 84 paul borgman 85 hide a segment of an article from younger viewers 86 Etiquette for a major change 87 Paul Tansley 88 My Article Was deleted As Soon As I Tried To Submit It 89 What is internet-capable devices 90 Biography boxes and Song boxes

connenction

Please fill in the subject box above, then replace this text with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. 200.57.6.69 (talk) 01:51, 1 May 2008 (UTC) I have digital sat in one room and just bought a regular receiver for my upstairs but when I install it the upstairs only receives 40% signal what am i doing wrong I also hook it up to the dish200.57.6.69 (talk) 01:51, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

This page is for helping newbies out with Wikipedia, you might want to try posting your question to one of our reference desks. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 01:53, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

new article draft

How can I make a draft of a new article which is erasable from my user subpage (like sand box) and preferably invisible to the public during preparation? I saw something about subpage User/Special, but I cannot really do it. This would allow ease of time to complete the draft without worries. Esem0 (talk) 12:51, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I see you have successfully created a couple of user subpages. When your article's ready you can move it into the article namespace. I don't believe it's possible to make your draft invisible (short of not hosting it on Wikipedia at all), but people are very unlikely to edit it before it's finished, if that's what you're worried about. Algebraist 16:27, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Yes, I wouldn't like interference during drafting over a longer period, or I will have to shorten the preparation time. I thought there was a way with a "Special" subpage, to let me have my "private" sandbox, but it seems not. Esem0 (talk) 11:48, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Another option is to prepare your article offline on your computer, then upload and format it when you feel it's ready. Hope this helps, Gazimoff ^Write_Read 11:53, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, that's what I have to do: my query would not have arisen if I were an experienced wikipedia editor, which requires considerable time and effort for newcomers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Esem0 (talk • contribs) 22:11, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

What do the small boxes mean after a word?

Go to this page here and put your mouse over 'search for.....' what is it that those boxes represent? How come they dont show up in the actual title? Can someone help me out? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.239.52.180 (talk) 05:56, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you're asking here, but the link you pointed to is one of a number of special pages, where information is generated on-the-fly. These are for things like lists, searches and so on. You can find out ore information on special pages here. Gazimoff ^Write_Read 10:08, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for replying, I'll clarify. When you move your mouse over 'Search for "HАGGER?  " there are 2 small boxes after the question mark. What does this symbol mean? And why is it that it doesn't appear on the page? Hopefully you can help. 220.239.52.180 (talk) 10:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah, these are characters that for one reason or another aren't rendered by your browser. If you look at the URL, it ends in Talk:H%D0%90GGER%3F%E2%80%82%E2%80%82. Depending on your browser, language support, etc, these will either be displayed as full characters, blanks or square blocks. Hope this helps, Gazimoff ^Write_Read 10:45, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I think that it means that your computer doesn't have the specified character in that font, so it uses that box as a placeholder. WODUP 10:45, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

(outdent) thanks and yes that must be the reason. i'll try another computer tomorrow and see what happens. makes no diff. with Firefox (im using IE) but i vaguely remember this worked last time. Funny eh. 220.239.52.180 (talk) 11:47, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

HOW TO WRIT IN GREASEMONKEY SCRIPTS?

Please fill in the subject box above, then replace this text with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. 116.72.249.118 (talk) 07:02, 1 May 2008 (UTC) CHAR DINO KA PYAR OHH RABBA....LAMBI JUDAAI ĈḤáṜ ĐíйŐ ќá ρÿáṜ ŎЊњ Яd̪Ббá.....ɺΆɱdбǏїї ĴǚɖăãĬĩĩ

I'm sorry, I'm not sure I understand your question? Gazimoff ^Write_Read 10:04, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

ethanol?

hey i have heard of this new thing of using ethanol as a fuel for transport which is comin up in a few years.. dont have much knowledge abt it so i needed some help and guidelines as to how it works and is someone into production of ethanol for this purpose.. do help me with as much information possible.. --Nehha.thakur (talk) 09:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Just to let you know, this page is for asking questions on how to use Wikipedia. If you have a question on a subject, you can try one of our reference desks. Have a look at Ethanol and Ethanol fuel to get you started though. Hope this helps, Gazimoff ^Write_Read 10:04, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Retrieving deleted article

My article was deleted ENOVIA SmarTeam by user "Dreadstar" due to "blatant advertising". As I am a new user, I was following examples of existing companies and wasn't finished with my referencing. Now that I learned my lesson, I would like to retrieve the coded deleted article , practice in sandbox and only then publish the article. How do I retrieve the deleted article in order to copy it to a draft?. Womanitoba (talk) 15:31, 1 May 2008 (UTC)Womanitoba

One of these admins Would supply you with a copy of your deleted article. They are Admins that provide copies.~ DarkZorro 19:29, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I've restored the data of the page to User:Womanitoba/ENOVIA SmarTeam. I'm glad to hear that you've read through the guidelines for articles about companies; as I'm sure you know, please be sure to confirm that the company heeds the guidlines at Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies), otherwise it is likely to be deleted again. Additionally, as we're not to restore copyrighted information, I was somewhat wary of doing so, as some of the text seemed very, very, very similar to things found at http://www10.mcadcafe.com/nbc/articles/view_weekly.php?articleid=270510. Please be sure that you are following the guidelines at Wikipedia:Copyrights. Happy editing! -- Natalya 19:47, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

What to do? An offshoot of TIQM (transactional interpretation QM)

Help,

I have no clue what to do next...

Take material at this external link: http://members.triton.net/daveb/

along with this internal link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transactional_interpretation

It follows you can derive an "offshoot" a ' Vector Energy' (using external link for math and theory framework) 'interpreation of Quantum Mechanics'

replace the "backwards time-travelling virtual photon" in TIQM with "negative energy vector photon" & make offshoot with potential to say something along the lines of:

Pair Production: Empty space absorbs a negative vector energy photon and emits a particle-antip artcle pair to conserve stuff.

Tunnel Effect: a particle in a classical PE well emits itself as a negative vector energy photon and disappears. Somewhere on other side of well, empty space absorbs a negative vector energy photon and and particle appears there.

???

Fx303 (talk) 02:31, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried the Science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. -- Natalya 02:55, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Changing your username

How do you change the username of your account in Wikipedia? S'naiaidepikiwegap (talk) 04:40, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

WP:CHU is the place you're looking for. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 04:49, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Natalie Zemon Davis

Please add a link to Natalie Zemon Davis+Toynbee Prize to the main article in Wikipedia. I wanted to find the date of the Award.69.181.125.173 (talk) 08:09, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Wiki graphist contributions

I have been reading about your need for people who are able to process photos and diagrams and would like to offer my skills. I've looked at the 'images to improve' page and still can't see how the work-flow is supposed to work. There are instructions for people to request an image edit but I can't see how a prospective artist can 'sign up for' doing a specific job. If I just download and edit an image, then upload it to the commons, how does the system know about it? What is to stop multiple people working on the same image? or for that matter a whole series of people tweaking the same image - possibly making it worse? What exactly does 'Stale' mean - it would help to have a key on the page to explain this. Please can somebody direct me to a tutorial with step by step instructions on how to sign up for a job, the correct way to download the image and the mechanism for linking the edited file with the original article. I've looked in vain for any pages which explain this. I am keen to help but am frustrated by the interface! If such information exists, then perhaps it would be a good idea for a link to be provided on the 'images to improve' page. Thepixelator (talk) 10:56, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

You might get a better (and faster!) answer if you post this question at the talk page of the project, Wikipedia talk:Graphic Lab. They should be able to answer the questions you have easily, since they work within the project. I'm sorry to hear that the interface is frustrating you - I hope things become clear! -- Natalya 11:15, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Article written on "Mikayla Gilbreath" was deleted.

Hello,

An article which I wrote yesterday entitled "Mikayla Gilbreath" has been deleted by someone using the signon "Papa November." The claim was that it contained "blatant copyright violations." When I went to "Papa November's" talk page, it would not allow me to question his actions saying that he was on vacation and the page was "semi-protected." I know we're supposed to remain courteous to one another on your system, but I must say that such tactics seem rather high handed, at the least.

The article on Mikayla Gilbreath is about an extraordinary 15 year-old jazz saxophonist and journalist, who happens to be my granddaughter. Much of the material used in the article was indeed taken from the stated references, then reworded, rearranged, and amplified. However, the references themselves, used in my article, were all written by Mikayla Gilbreath and edited by myself, for publication in "Jazz Notes" the Journal of the Jazz Journalists Association, and on AllAboutJazz.com where Mikayla writes a column entitled "Mikayla's Totally Jazzed." Likewise, her AllAboutJazz.com Musician Profile was written by Mikayla and myself. Those were the only references used. Because of her age, no other "biographical" material exists in print to use as "references" for the article.

However, links were added within the article to National Public Radio and Jazz Times Magazine which included other articles featuring Mikayla, as well as to SonnyRollins.com, where Mikayla is featured in one of Sonny's podcasts, but no material was taken from those works for use in my article for Wikipedia. It was my understanding that links to other pages containing copyrighted material were allowed.

I'm at a loss to understand where the copyright violation exists. Since the person who deleted my article appears to be unwilling to explain his actions, would someone else like to explain the "blatant copyright infringement" that apparently resulted in the deletion of the article I posted yesterday? Hopefully it was just a lack of knowledge that the article was written by the subject's grandfather, with the full permission of Mikayla Gilbreath, herself.

If the problem is actually her age, just 15, then I'm afraid this conversation will be fruitless. However, Mikayla Gilbreath, who can claim jazz legend Sonny Rollins, international jazz star Candy Dulfer, and President of the Jazz Journalists Association Howard Mandel as her "mentors," would certainly seem to qualify as suitable for inclusion on your esteemed website. You, yourselves, have even used one of her articles as a source reference in your page on jazz musician Dr. Lonnie Smith.

In her capacity as a columnist for All About Jazz, she interviews jazz legends, emerging jazz musicians, and noted jazz educators. She already is acquainted with many well-known musicians. Her next interview will be with sax legend David "Fathead" Newman - Ray Charles' saxophonist for many years, and subsequently a star in his own right. Mikayla could become a valuable contributor to your site, adding much first-hand knowledge to incomplete or out-dated coverage that may exist on your site, related to some such individuals. I had hoped that her relationship with your organization would "get off on the right foot."

I hope that you will respond to this inquiry, to help me understand the action that was taken.

Cordially,

Micheal Gilbreath

JazzPromoter (talk) 15:36, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Greetings. Looking at the deleted article, I think teh problem is that it's almost a word-for-word copy - with a few words changed here and there - of this bio, which looks to have been the cause for the copyvio claim. Wikipedia generally prefers to avoid stuff like that when possible. The copy that existed in the article when it was deleted was quite promotional as well, which violates our neutral point of view guidelines, and your creation of the article, being her grandfather as you mention above, puts you into a conflict of interest situation. Generally, if someone is notable enough to be included in Wikipedia, someone outside of their immediate family will create an article on them based on reliable sources - newspapers, magazines, and other coverage that proves they have become notable in their own right. At this point, looking at the available sources, I'm personally not sure that she would meet our biographical guidelines. Tony Fox (arf!) 15:54, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Few 15 year olds would satisfy Wikipedia notability requirements about significant coverage in multiple reliable sources independent of the subject. Wikipedia does not make exceptions because people are young or seem promising. There are other wikis you might consider, for example http://www.wikibios.com/. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:40, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

I have posted a link to this section at User talk:Papa November. You can edit semiprotected pages when your account is 4 days old. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:48, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi JazzPromoter, apologies for leaving my talk page semi-protected - I forgot to unprotect it when I returned from holiday, and I can assure you there was no attempt to stop people asking me questions.

Tony Fox, was quite right in saying that the article was deleted because large sections of it were copied verbatim from the allaboutjazz article. The website states that all rights are reserved on the text, which means that it may not be copied or distributed freely. All wikipedia content must by either from a free source, or original content which you agree to release freely. If you own copyright on the text, and you would like to donate it freely, you should read this article to find out more.

Unfortunately, I don't think it is likely that Mikayla Gilbreath has achieved the level of notability for inclusion in Wikipedia just yet - you yourself have stated that there is a lack of independent source material, and that really is the main test here for whether someone is notable enough. Hopefully in a couple of years, she will be famous enough to include. Papa November (talk) 17:32, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

I believe writing a wikipedia article about your granddaughter would also qualify as a conflict of interest. L'Aquatique^talk 04:53, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Whoops, just realized that someone already mentioned that. In any case, remember that Wikipedia is not a place to "promote" anyone or anything. They must be notable before being listed here, not after! : ) L'Aquatique^talk 04:55, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

protection req

I'm expanding an article (Multiple Maniacs) and it's getting vand'd repeatedly apparently offended by religion-related content which is essential and central theme in the film. I'm having trouble finding out how to have the page partially protected so that I can finish it. Can someone help? Thank you. Mike P ^talk 02:20, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

The page that you are looking for is WP:RFPP. Semi protection is for anon and new users. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 02:22, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Also, if it's getting vandalized, WP:WARN the user/s responsible and report them to WP:AIV if it gets troublesome. The page may not require protection at all from what I see. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 02:23, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

how do I move an article?

How do I move an article that I created on my user page to the main article section? SOGbuddies (talk) 09:46, 3 May 2008 (UTC)SOGbuddies

At the top of the article there should be a 'move' tab near the ones that say 'user page' and 'discussion'. Click that and enter the new title and reason.

Also, in future you might find it handy to create pages in your sandbox (just create them as User:SOGbuddies/Sandbox) instead of on your main user page. Olaf Davis | Talk 09:58, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

You can't move an article until you are autoconfirmed, which occurs four days after you sign up. That's at 1214 today (UTC). Algebraist 11:48, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, if you WP:MOVE the page, you are renaming it, so I wouldn't advise that at all if you want to maintain your userpage. A cruder way of doing it would be to simply cut and paste the content after you click on "edit this page". Search for the title of the page you want to create. When Wiki doesn't find it, click create this article and cut and paste the text. Hit preview to check the work, then save. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 13:20, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

If you do move a page from your sandbox to a main article there will be redirect created from the original sandbox page pointing to your new article. You can remove the redirection if you plan on using that sandbox page again, or what I did when I recently did the same thing was to tag it with {{db-u1}} after the move. The page will then be deleted. Cheers! --Captain-tucker (talk) 13:44, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Creating an article

Please advise on how to add a new article. I have checked, and there is no existing entry for this topic. Many thanks, Designquest10 (talk) 14:34, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

See WP:1ST for some assistance. :) Stwalkerster [ talk ] 14:35, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Creating an article -- part II

Please advise on how to add a new article. I have checked, and there is no existing entry for this topic. Many thanks, Designquest10 (talk) 14:47, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

WHERE does one follow step 7: Create a new page.  ???

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation.
You click the red link of the desired page and where it usually says "edit" it says create this page. You are enabled to do so after 4 days of having an account.

DarkZorro 17:16, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually, all registered users can create pages. The four-day wait is for moving, uploading, patrolling, semi-protection ignoring, and CAPTCHA-avoiding. Algebraist 19:04, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

citation

On the page "Frank Lloyd Wright" it makes mention of Simon & Garfunkel paying tribute to him etc... and then says "citation needed". I have followed many links to see how I can provide said citation & have yet to find how I can actually provide it. It gives examples of how the citation might look, but not where to put it when doing the editing. i don't know if that makes sense! 121.44.230.165 (talk) 03:33, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

• Just find a reliable, third-party source that verifies the information -- in other words, a webpage or even a print reference that asserts that Simon & Garfunckel paid tribute to him -- and then follow WP:CITE to find out how to add the source to the article. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 03:37, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

There's also this page which contains examples of different references and the wiki markup code to produce them. Hope that helps! Olaf Davis | Talk 07:53, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

New Entry

Hi, I would like to submit an entry about Rosina Lyford, who is an english artist and has work all over the world in exhibitions, solo shows etc. How do I go about this? I have all permissions needed from her.

Many Thanks,

Chris Sandbrook

Tigrosuk (talk) 08:47, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Chris. The page Wikipedia:1ST gives advice on writing your first article. You might also want to read Wikipedia:CITE for information on how to add citations, and Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons for our policy on biographical articles. Hope that helps - let me know if you have any more questions. Happy editing! Olaf Davis | Talk 09:13, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Deleting and uploading same image

In a series of uploaded images, I inadvertently did not provide a licence in one of them and the image has been tagged for deletion. I then uploaded the same image with a licence but I am uncertain and confused as to what has happened, because the image still remains tagged for deletion. When I tried to edit it with the intention of deleting it and uploading again, I seem not to be able to delete the image. What am I doing wrong. Please show me what to do to upload the same image correctly. Esem0 (talk) 14:00, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Esem0. First of all, am I right in guessing that this is the image in question? Rather than deleting and re-uploading it (which only an admin can do anyway), you should be able to add a copyright tag to the current image page. There's a list of different ones at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags. Does that answer your question? Olaf Davis | Talk 14:30, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually, the page I linked above is about copyright tags; the list is at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/All. Happy editing! Olaf Davis | Talk 14:35, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt help. I think I 've done it. That is the image. Am I right now? Thanks again. Esem0 (talk) 14:47, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, if you created the image yourself then that's right. Glad I could help! Olaf Davis | Talk 15:38, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

How to have a license to upload your own file?

How can i have a license to upload a file? please help..... Sheng bei (talk) 15:06, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Upload your image first. Edit the image and place pick the image license of your choice. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 15:16, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

References & Sales Figures

Hi, I have some questions, quite a few actually. Hope it's ok. 1: I am writing this article about two record producers/songwriters. My main Source is their official website. Referring to this, will that be enough? (Maybe this question is hard to answer before reading the article, which is not yet published, but in general...?)

2: Through the years, working with a number of major artists, the duo's songs have sold extremely well worldwide. Some of these sales figures I'd like to present as a part of the article. Again, my main Source is their website, will this be enough? Or do I have to search for references elsewhere (which will take me about 12 years...)? And even if I find Sources and References, how do I and the reader of the article know that the figures are reliable?

Many thanks, 16:33, 4 May 2008 Dafos (talk) 16:36, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Usually, an official site is OK, but you might need another more neutral source as well...... Dendodge.Talk^Help 16:38, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Dendodge for your extremely quick answer. Does this make it ok to publish the sales figures from their site and that I afterwards add more neutral sources (please say yes)? Dafos (talk) 16:57, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

I must disagree as our policies and guidelines hold quite explicitly for the opposite result. The general notability requirement on Wikipedia for the subject of an article is substantive treatment in independent reliable sources. The mandatory verifiability requirement for information appearing in an article is reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. "Third party" and "independent" have the same meaning; the sources relied on for an article should be unrelated to the subject of the article.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:48, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Fuh is spot on, remember official sites, or anything closely associated with the subject, are primary sources and, thus, are generally not enough. Albeit they are reliable. However, they need to be used in conjunction with independent sources. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 19:53, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

How to handle bio information provided by the subject

I know that subjects may provide material about themselves through press releases, personal websites, or blogs. Unfortunately the subject has sent information to me personally because he knows I am writing an article. Should I just ask him to put it on his website instead? It seems a little backward to do this, but I want to comply with guidelines. Any help appreciated. 3dimen (talk) 05:43, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, your best bet is to reply asking him to put it on his website. You can then cite that. Thanks for wanting to abide by "the rules". :) dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 05:50, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Contact address for a public person

I'm interested to find a contact address for Peter KHALIL, a Middle East Analyst. Is such info. available from Wikipedia? 122.148.32.74 (talk) 11:05, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

You won't find personal contact information about users or subjects on this site. See what wikipedia is not and biographies of living people.

Particularly Wikipedia:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_a_directory. -- Natalya 12:46, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Page adding

How can I add a page? I want to add a new page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sparky3976 (talk • contribs) 16:07, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi! See WP:1ST :) Stwalkerster [ talk ] 16:13, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Changing the main title

Dear Sir/ Madame

I've recently created an article and I would like to change the main title as currently it is set to my user name and also it is not being found when doing a general search,

Please help!

Hoppo666 (talk) 18:14, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

• You created it on your user page by mistake. If you need help creating an article, see WP:YFA. I will make the page into an article for you. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 18:17, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

ARTICLE DOES NOT APPEAR

Please can someone help. I wrote an article on Thomas T Riley, Ambassador to Morocco. But when I search Wikipedia for Thomas Riley, only someone who helped with a tatoo machine appears. Please can someone help. Also, there is a Thomas Riley (ambassador) under US Ambassadors Morocco where I also entered the information about him, AS WELL as putting it in the NEW ARTICLE called Thomas T. Riley. Thank you! NJVR (talk) 18:44, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

• Thomas Riley (ambassador). Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 18:47, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

ARTICLE ON USER PAGE

TEN POUND HAMMER? I noticed you told someone they had created their article on their "user page"...I think I did that too...Where do I go to create a new article? I went to how to create a page and it says search for the article and then click on the red "create a page" link...didn't see it! Please can you help! Thank you so much! NJVR (talk) 18:56, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

• One way to do it is to scroll down to the bottom of my user page (click on the words "Ten Pound Hammer" in my signature) and click the "create a page" button at the bottom. Another way to do it is go to the search box at the left side of any page, type in the name of the page you want to make. If the page doesn't already exist, you should get a notice saying "This page does not exist... create this page" and click on the text there. If you still need help, let me know. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 19:05, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

ARTICLE CAN'T BE FOUND

I wrote an article on Thomas T. Riley. When I type Thomas Riley into search, it does not come up with the article. Only if I type Thomas T. Riley. Is there something I can do so that it will come up without the middle initial? 41.249.57.164 (talk) 19:06, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

• I will create a redirect for you (see WP:REDIR). Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 19:09, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, a page WP:MOVE, which changes the article title. I'll do it for you now. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 19:10, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind, ten has got it under control. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 19:10, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Or perhaps you simply wished for a redirect? A redirect can be created by adding the following to a page: #REDIRECT [[Insert text]]. Simply type the page you wish the redirect page to redirect to where it says 'insert text'.--Cameron (t|p|c) 19:13, 5 May 2008 (UTC) Sorry must have misread the above! = ) --Cameron (t|p|c) 19:15, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

ARTICLE ON PERSON WITH SAME NAME

Ten Pound Hammer, you are wonderful and so quick with responses! Thank you!! I wonder if it is permissible to do an article called "Thomas Riley" about the Ambassador even though there is one about the tatoo guy already...when I went to do that, it had an automatic "redirect" in the edit box...I don't want to do anything against the rules...I would obviously eliminate the redirect... Thank you! 41.249.57.164 (talk) 19:11, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Thomas Riley article

WOW!! THANK YOU!!! My other request was obviously not needed, you took care of everything! Thank you so much!! 41.249.57.164 (talk) 19:13, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

License for image

I wish to include in an article images from commercial brochures publicly distributed about 20 years ago. The company no longer exists as it was bought by another company which has been bought by another one. The original source is shown on the images but no other information is provided in relation to wikipedia type licensing requirements. What sort of license is required to upload the images to wikipedia. If not sure, please refer this question to an appropriate administrator. Thank you very much. Esem0 (talk) 00:50, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

The Image Copyright Help Desk has people who specialize in media licensing. You will probably get better help there. Paragon12321 (talk) 20:56, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Editing Concern

Hi,

Under "spirituality" and the external links section, I see someone left: Spiritual Experiences People sharing their various spiritual experiences--which is great site of hundreds of spiritual stories.

My question: I also have a large archive of spiritual stories that are within my spiritual retreat site so I am not sure I can leave it.

Could you please advise.

Thank you, Greg

Dakota28 (talk) 06:36, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

For more information on the proper use of these links, please read WP:EL. From what I gather, the above does not look appropriate. Kinda reminds me of a subjective anecdotes. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 06:51, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Science experiments

Hi,,,i am a new user ... i want to download clips or movies of science experiments.....Can a Anyone tell me the address of site of science experiments clips or movies...........plz help......Kamran Zarrar (talk) 17:45, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Kamran, and welcome to Wikipedia! This page is really for help with editing and using Wikipedia itself. You can try asking at the reference desk, although if you're unlucky it might be that no-one who sees your question knows of such a site (since Wikipedia doesn't keep directories of websites like that). Good luck with your search, and let me know if I can help with anything else. Olaf Davis | Talk 18:08, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

disappearing table

Hi there, I just tried to update the page Executive Council of the Northwest Territories. It had an html table in it and although I'm sure I didn't accidentally delete any of the < td > < tr > stuff (did the compare versions thing) when I saved the page the table had disappeared. How can I fix this? Thank you for any help. WikiJedits (talk) 21:00, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi. It seems you forgot to add a </ref> tag after your reference. This made the table vanish. I'll fix it for you. STORMTRACKER 94 ^{Go Irish!} 21:09, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I can watch for that mistake in future. WikiJedits (talk) 21:21, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

PV Crystalox Solar PLC

- + I wrote and article about the company I work for, but the article appears to have been rejected. Could you explain whehe I have gone wrong?83.104.222.194 (talk) 11:33, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello. In order for us to look at the deleted article so that a tailored answer can be given, we need to check the deletion log for the entry; the exact spelling and capitalization is necessary to search the log. Alternatively, we can check deleted contributions of a user. Neither option appears currently possible as there is no deletion log entry for "PV Crystalox Solar PLC" nor variations, and you posted here under your ip address. In the hypothetical, I am guessing that the article was either deleted as blatant advertising or as an article on a company that did not indicate the importance or significance of the subject. Please review the following pages which you might find of interest: Wikipedia:FAQ/Business, Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted? and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. As I already indicated, if you want more targeted advice, provide the exact name of the article or the name of the account you used when you created it. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:56, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Adding photos to an article

I've read the [complex] directions in W:Picture Tutorial. What they don't say is how you identify a file for inclusion in the box. I used the filename I gave to the photo I uploaded into WikiMedia [ChamplainCanal-1845.jpg, but just get a box that has the file name and the caption, but not the photo. For reference, please see article "Champlain Canal." I know the photo is "in there" since I've been able to bring it up and add an extensive "Description." Help! Planmeister (talk) 18:45, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

You just used the wrong capitalization; I've fixed it. Someguy1221 (talk) 18:53, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

how do I enter a article that I have already written

I am unable to figure out how to write an article for submission to wikipedia. I have found the various info parts but nohwere does it prompt me to submitTrishJKA (talk) 19:53, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

• Go to the "search" box at the left and type in the name of the article you wish to create. This should give you a page saying "Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name... Click here to start the article". Then click where it says to click, and start typing your article. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 19:59, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Is there an easy way to format an article

Specifically this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nico_Haupt. I know it's been nominated for deletion and all but I thought I might like to at least try to make it look like a "normal" Wikipedia article. I've searched and searched for a template or a tool to help me do this but I've yet to find anything that helps. Thanks! Smart Ways (talk) 00:36, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

• No, there's no set template. See WP:IFY for some instructions on Wikifying articles so that they look "better". Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 00:46, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

College: The Musical

Pace U. yeahhhh —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.8.67.243 (talk) 09:01, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

This is a help page to ask questions about Wikipedia. Do you have a question? PrimeHunter (talk) 10:52, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Edit a reference

Hello!

I want to put one reference in some definitions and upload a file. I´m trying to publish some definitions but it´s not possible. think that there are something I´m doing wrong.

What I have to doing?

Thank you very much.

Cevalsi (talk) 11:02, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Could you clarify what you mean by definitions? By references, do you need to know how to cite sources? If you can clarify what you mean, it will hopefully be easier to give you an answer. -- Natalya 11:10, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

WP:Upload is the place to upload files (assuming it's an image file). Olaf Davis | Talk 11:15, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

You may have just been using the word "definitions" loosely, but please note that if you want to create pages that exist mainly to define words, that is the role of a dictionary, not an encyclopedia. If this is the case and the words you wish to add have clearly widespread use (are not neologisms), please visit our sister dictionary project, Wiktionary.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:02, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

NOTES, NOTES---EVERYWHERE...To much information

[[Help me Please. im "drowning" in tiny scraps of paper. Where, on Wikipedia, does an editor/author keep his notes etc? Thanks -- Buster7 (talk) 15:15, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Buster. Your User page is the ideal place for this - or if you don't want to clog that up, a subpage of it. For example, if you want to create a subpage called Notes, just type User:Buster7/Notes into the search bar on the left (or click my link), and the non-existent page will open up for editing. Olaf Davis | Talk 15:33, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Article deletion

Hi there. I wrote the article under my user name. Having completed it I tried to save it, which is when I received notification that it had been deleted. Is there any way I can retrieve what I wrote? If the reason for the deletion was on the grounds of advertising, then I would appeal against this as the company is one of the major pioneers of the technology used for the production of solar silicon for solar panels. Indeed they were responsible for the development of the industry standard size of ingot. I would find it hard that it was subject to a speedy deletion. I have the article in word format. Is there any chance of having it translated by someone such as yourself for inclusion in Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by David de Leyser (talk • contribs) at 09:40, 9 May 2008

According to the query interface, it doesn't seem like your page was submitted at all; what message did you get, and what is the name of the article that you were trying to create? Wikipedia:Deletion review is where you can appeal page deletion. haz (talk) 11:11, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

how to make edits become article

My editing changes are saved but not made to my original article. what am i not doing? Jcbierley1 (talk) 12:32, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Can you clarify what you mean by that? Are these related to edits to Lykes Brothers? Are there edits that you <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lupin/navpop.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css&dontcountme=s">think you made that are not showing up in the edit history? If you can give us a clearer description of the problem, we'll do our best to help. -- Natalya 13:30, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Edits become part of the page immediately after they are saved. Maybe you have to bypass your cache to see the latest edits. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:59, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

If you mean why some of the text in the edit window for Lykes Brothers was not displayed in the article, then it was because there was a stray <ref>. I have removed it.[1] What comes after <ref> is supposed to be a reference which is displayed later, for example with <references/>. See Wikipedia:Footnotes. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:06, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

IMAGE CANDIDATE FOR SPEEDY DELETION - NO COPYRIGHT INFO

I uploaded one of my own images and don't see where to put the copyright info they are requesting! Please help! It is on the Thomas T. Riley page. Thank you! 41.251.5.161 (talk) 13:15, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Go to the Thomas T. Riley article, and click on the image. This will take you to the image description page. Click on the "edit" tab at the top to edit the page. You can add the required information there. Papa November (talk) 13:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Assuming that this is the same question, you appear to have an answer at Wikipedia:Help_desk#PHOTO_COPYRIGHT_INFO_-_WHERE_TO_ENTER_IT.21.21. If that is not clear enough, try to clarify what is confusing? -- Natalya 13:28, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Do you just enter the tag

I, the copyright holder of this work, hereby grant the permission to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts.

after source= ? I did that and the photo still says it is candidate for speedy deletion...thank you so much for your prompt help!41.251.5.161 (talk) 14:39, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

You also need to remove the speedy deletion notice from the page manually if you have fixed the tag issue. Redfarmer (talk) 11:05, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Jordan Jeffries

Jordan Jeffries is so cooooooooolll!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jordan Jeffries (talk • contribs) 17:32, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations on that. Do you have a question about Wikipedia? PrimeHunter (talk) 17:52, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

looking for joob

Iam Nwankwo Kelechi,i hail from imo state.iam a OND holder in marketing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.3.61.4 (talk) 19:18, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Your question is? And what are those random numbers?...... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 19:19, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I think you're on the wrong site. Wikipedia is a volunteer-run encyclopedia. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:20, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

This is an online encyclopedia, we can't offer you a job. Sorry. You might want to try monster or hotjobs. While we have articles describing both of these sites, we are not in any affiliated with them.--VectorPotential Talk 19:21, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Change Wikipedia UserName

How do I change my account Username Dean Barron 23:48, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Changing username --Karenjc 23:50, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Not blatant advertising.

I am trying to add an article, but it was deleted due to "Blatant advertising". My artical is below, please compare it with the wiki page on 'Palazzo Versace'. There is no difference! Potus1 (talk) 01:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

• Comment I removed the text and have userfied it for this user, see here. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 02:05, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

For others commenting, User:Potus1/Qualia. Potus, you'll notice that Palazzo Versace is also tagged for reading like an advertisement; and in any event, pointing out that other similar articles exist is not a reason to not delete it. Wikipedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and the article you have written appears to be more like a brochure. Phrases such as "each pavilion has been handcrafted from the finest imported timber and stone" and "the Library is sure to provoke your imagination" are extremely promotional and what we call "peacocky", because they make the subject look pretty without providing much encyclopedic information. The policies I've linked, as well as this one, should help provide some tips on how to improve your article. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 02:17, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

editing index page

I want to edit the Category: People from Barnstable County, Massachusetts, because there is at least one incorrectly included person, and I'm a local historian with several more people to add. But all I see on the edit page are bracketed lists/links of the categories, without any actual people listed. Capehistory (talk) 01:26, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Categories behave a little differently to normal articles - see Help:Category. Basically, if an article is listed in Category:People from Barnstable County, Massachusetts, then to remove it you have to go to that article and remove the listing of the category there. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 04:11, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

geographical map

Please fill in the subject box above, then replace this text with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. 59.93.8.38 (talk) 06:00, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Did you have a question? It appears you have simply copied the instructions for asking a question on this page. Redfarmer (talk) 11:06, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Updating Wikipedia for The American College, Bryn Mawr, PA

I am updating The American College's Wikipedia with information i have recieved directly from the executitve offices at our institution. Wikipedia is telling me that my information is too much like an advertisement, however, my boss and i have taken the information from published college materials. Will my information be deleated if i dont change it, and is there a possibility that notice can be taken off my edits?

TACollegePR (talk) 19:27, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

I took a quick look at the article in question, and the WP:TONE is simply not fit for an encyclopedia. You may want to read neutral point of view and WP:ARTICLE. These should address the issues that other users may have with the article. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 20:38, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

In development tags?

Where did they go? they were there before and i can't find them now! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kcollis (talk • contribs) 06:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Template messages/Maintenance -- KTC (talk) 06:32, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

How can I add a word or "term" to Wikipedia that I created about 2 years ago and has become widely used in some very popular (Craigslist) discussion boards? Rvanhuss2 (talk) 07:54, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

About two years ago, while on a Craigslist discussion board, I created a term that caught on like wildfire. Now it is a very commonly used term on all Craiglist discussion boards that refers to the action of "flagging" someone else's posts. How can I add this term to the Wikipedia database?

Hi Rvanhuss. The article WP:your first article gives information on contributing material to Wikipedia. However, from your description it seems unlikely that the term would meet our notability guidelines. You might want to read WP:notability and in particular WP:notability (web). If your term hasn't been used by independent third-party sources outside Craigslist, it probably doesn't qualify. If it is extremely popular on the site, a redirect to the main Craigslist article might just be appropriate. Best wishes, and thanks for your interest in contributing. Olaf Davis | Talk 08:13, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

One other thing - it makes things easier to read for other editors if you put your signature at the end of your comment, rather than in the section heading. Olaf Davis | Talk 08:18, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

identifing a plant.

the plant that i need help with : a bulbous root, growth that resembles an allium , from 18 to 24 inches leaves fall over as plant matures, one central stalk 8 to 10 feet tall, the stalk is extremly strong withstands high winds,flowers are very small blooming from the bottom up,6 petals resembling a camas, seed ball forms at the base of flower but only a hand full actually make the seed pod, the pod itself is as just smaller than a ping pong ball, when mature the pod opens to three sides.

i hope that you can help me as i have looked in all the books i can find.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.80.83.58 (talk) 16:14, 13 May 2008 (UTC) 

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Science reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps.

Please sign your post by typing four tildes (~~~~) or clicking the signature button above the edit box (as shown to the left ←). Do NOT sign in articles....... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 16:18, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Why was my edit reverted?

Hi i put some details on word hindu and it was not accepted pls advice why Mukeshmakhija (talk) 17:51, 13 May 2008 (UTC) 

The editor who reverted you claimed the content you added was a copyright violation. In general, Wikipedia does not accept content copied from other sources. You may wish to read the policy I have linked to. Someguy1221 (talk) 18:12, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Request for article

Please i will like have the article on Aninri Loacl Government in Enugu State. The year the local government was created, how many communities are there in the local government, history of the local government. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nnamdiugwueke (talk • contribs) 08:45, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Nnamdiugwueke. If you want to have a go at writing the article yourself, please do! This page will help you get started on writing. If you want to request the article be written by someone else, add it to the appropriate section of Wikipedia:Requested articles/Social sciences - but it may take a long time before anyone decides to work on it. Let me know if you have any further questions, and welcome to Wikipedia! Olaf Davis | Talk 08:56, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

made a text and now it's gone

Last night I joined wikipedia. I made a post asking come questions on the chiropractic talk page. TOday I went to look to see if I had any replies and I can't find the post I made at all. How do I find it? How do I check to see if someone took it off?

Thank you Lvs2bAdjstd (talk) 11:50, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Lvs2bAdjstd. Your post was reverted with the edit summary provided: "Sorry, but Wikipedia isn't for getting medical advice." You can see the "diff", meaning the the difference between the version before the revert and after with the edit summary versions here. Generally, talk pages on Wikipedia are only for providing a space for editors to discuss changes to the associated article or project page and we have a general medical disclaimer which is what is referred to in the edit summary as the basis for the reversion. In the future you can check to see what happened to a disappeared post by going to the target page's page history. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:26, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Userpages and Userboxes?

I've seen users with different userpages, how do I personalize mine with colors and more? And where can I find specific userboxes that match my interests?--Panic!out (talk) 20:10, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

The userbox gallery can be found here: Userbox Gallary --Captain-tucker (talk) 20:37, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Posting a new article to Wikipedia

How do I post a new article to Wikipedia? David W. Sumner (talk) 20:45, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Please see Your first article.

1. Make sure the subject is notable enough to have their own article.
2. Find references
3. Make sure no article on the subject exists under a different title by typing the subject into the search box to the left (←) and clicking 'Search'
4. Type the page name in the search box to the left (←) and click 'Go'
5. Click 'Create this page'
6. Create the article, including all your references, making sure you adhere to the Manual of Style and our article layout
7. Be aware that Wikipedia deletes thousands of new articles for failing to adhere to our policies and guidelines. New articles by new users are at extra risk of deletion, due to new users' unfamiliarity with our rules. Consider gaining experience by editing existing articles before attempting to create new ones....... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 20:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

User recognized in English Wikipedia, but not in Danish.

Why can I log in with my user name and password to discuss a topic in English, but when I try to discuss the same topic in Danish, I am prompted with a log-in, which does not recognize my user name? --Globetrotterdk (talk) 20:47, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Accounts are on a single language, they are not universal...... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 20:50, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

... though they will be Real Soon Now. Algebraist 20:58, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Editing on page Samrat Hem Chandra Vikramaditya or HEMU

While editing above page on 14th May 2008, around 2.00PM some body deleted half the lower page, which contains all the references and three other paragraphs.The deleted portion is on record i.e. it appears when we open the entire page for editing.Please help in consolidating the balance portion with half the page which appears on screen on opening the page. 117.198.129.148 (talk) 10:55, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi. What had happened was that a </ref> tag, signifying the end of a reference, had lost its > - so the parser thought the rest of the article was part of a tag. I've fixed it now. Olaf Davis | Talk 11:08, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

What is Wikipedia?

Burnis wants to know what Wikipedia is and Bri is making fun of me for using it. This page speaks to both by saying:

wiki is whatever you want it to be, it's your encylopedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:About

Wikipedia's greatest strengths, weaknesses, and differences all arise because it is open to anyone, has a large contributor base, and articles are written by consensus according to editorial guidelines and policies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Domenachi (talk • contribs) 18:19, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that anyone can edit. It is free, open source, and online...... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 18:21, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

"Copyrighted Material"

Hi I recently added information to a page with my own material from one of my webpages on my website.. Recieved the message below... Is this simply not do able or do I have to specify where the material came from, that it is mine in this case as well... etc?

I really thought it was a help to the page!

Please let me know what the rules are on this...

And for example if it was copied from the Encyclopedia Britannica then it would be considered public and ok. Would you have to specify there or what??

"Please do not add copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder, as you did to Fortaleza. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing."

Gerard Anthony (talk) 01:05, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Gerard. It may be your material but it is clearly marked copyrighted on the bottom of the external site where you pasted it from. If you are the author of the text, you must show us that connection and that you have the authority to release that material, under the terms of the GFDL, which is what our content is licensed under. Note that by doing so you are not just releasing the content for our use but for other's use and redistribution under that license. In order to do this, you should either:

• Make a note permitting reuse under the GFDL at the site of the original publication, in place of the copyright notice; or
• Send an email from an address associated with the original publication (in this case the website) to permissions-en at wikimedia dot org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation.

In the absence of such a showing, no matter how much someone claims they are the author, we must balance the ability of any anonymous person to so claim, with our serious concern over respecting others' copyrights and keeping our site free of infringing content.-Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:26, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey Ab-so-lu-te-ly

I appreciate the quick response and i will send an email to the to permissions-en at wikimedia dot org address and then wait for a response or just upload it againa after i send the email??

Gerard Anthony

Fortaleza —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gerard Anthony (talk • contribs) 02:04, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Probably best to wait for a response or you'll only have people trying to delete the content again. As an aside, it's helpful for editors to follow discussion if you sign your posts by putting four tildes (~~~~) At the end. Happy editing. Olaf Davis | Talk 07:50, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Olaf I will do just that and see what happens!

Gerard Anthony —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.12.20.14 (talk) 15:38, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

How to make a page

How do you make a page? Kmorehead (talk) 15:52, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Please see Your first article.

1. Make sure the subject is notable enough to have their own article.
2. Find references
3. Make sure no article on the subject exists under a different title by typing the subject into the search box to the left (←) and clicking 'Search'
4. Type the page name in the search box to the left (←) and click 'Go'
5. Click 'Create this page'
6. Create the article, including all your references, making sure you adhere to the Manual of Style and our article layout guidelines
7. Be aware that Wikipedia deletes thousands of new articles for failing to adhere to our policies and guidelines. New articles by new users are at extra risk of deletion, due to new users' unfamiliarity with our rules. Consider gaining experience by editing existing articles before attempting to create new ones. -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 15:55, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

K. Alonzo Hart

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K. Alonzo Hart(born June 14 1970) is an American writer and motivational speaker. He has appeared on several American urban talk radio shows such as Los Angeles based KJLH Front Page with Dominique Deprima,Atlanta's WAOK's The Right Side with Shelly Wynter,Philadelphia's 99fm The Sam Sylk Morning Show,and a host of others where he has articulated and fiercly debated many of his most controversial and provocative solutions aimed at restoring the African American family and community.

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Early Life

K. Alonzo Hart was born the son of R&B entertainer William "Poogie" Hart lead vocalist of the Grammy award winning 70's soul group The Delfonics who penned such hits as La la La means I love you. After leaving West Philadelphia in 1976 as a child K. Alonzo Hart was raised in the South east section of Atlanta, Ga. where he attended High School and excelled as a football and track stand out. On the campus of Norfolk State University, Hart sharpened his writing and public speaking skills while he led the largest campus organization at the time. Under his leadership the Fellowship student organization grew to over 350 members. It was there that Hart began to handcraft his message of “family first" —Preceding unsigned comment added by SwanSong89 (talk • contribs) 03:10, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello SwanSong. It looks as though you were trying to create an article but have accidentally placed it here, which is the help page for inexperienced Wikipedians. You might want to read Wikipedia:Your first article, and then click this link K. Alonzo Hart and create the page there. Olaf Davis | Talk 07:21, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

adding text from a website from which I am authorized to borrow

Dear Wikipedia,

I recently tried to create my first article on Wikipedia using a text from the website of my workplace, a text which I am, of course, authorized to borrow. The article was, understandably, blocked by the copyright search engine. The text is the artist introduction from the website of a commercial gallery. Is there anyway that I can use this text - for instance, by citing it - or am I required to write a new entry? Thank you in advance for your help. Cosmicgalerie (talk) 14:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

You could use it and cite it, but you should rewrite it in your own words. See WP:COPYVIO. RedThunder 15:02, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

pictures

Hi its Eweelittlechick (talk) 17:43, 17 May 2008 (UTC) here and i was just wondering, how do pictures of say drew barrymore or john travolta or someone like that get put on here, because surely they must be copyrighted? and if not then where did they get the pictures from? please answer thank you :)Eweelittlechick (talk) 17:43, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

They're taken by individuals who then release the copyright to Wikipedia under the GDFL licence. For example, the picture of Drew Barrymore here was taken by David Shankbone, who contributes pictures to Wikipedia. _GB^T/C 17:44, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

oh ok then thank you for your help.Eweelittlechick (talk) 17:48, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Contributing to other wikipedia versions with the same name?

Hi! My question is: I'm an English and Greek Wikipedia user. Is it possible to contribute to another version of Wikipedia (for example the Swedish or the French wikipedia) by signing my comments/edits etc with my username without having to create a new userpage in the other wikipedia versions? I mean, can I sign my contributions to the Swedish and French wikipedia as "Pel_thal" without having to create the relevant userpages? Please post your answer on my discussion page. Thanks in advance! Pel thal (talk) 19:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Will copy to talk page. You will need to create an account, but not necessarily a userpage...... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 19:42, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

My Bio

I've read the requirements and still can't see that what I filled in as far as my bio breaks any rules. I'm getting the sense that the warning to me was an automasted one. Also, what little info on me that Wikipedia displays was not written by me to begin with. Can you help? Robert Florczak. Robzak (talk) 04:54, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Writing autobiographies on wikipedia is generally frowned upon as they can rarely be written with a neutral point of view, one of the cardinal rules of wikipedia. You may also like to see WP:COI 59.94.253.196 (talk) 09:08, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Autobiography for more info. haz (talk) 13:18, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

cover pictures

hi, i was wondering, if i am allowed to put a picture of a dvd case cover on her. please help! Eweelittlechick (talk) 07:37, 18 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eweelittlechick (talk • contribs) 07:36, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi there. the answer is yes. If you go to Wikipedia:Upload then you can go through the options. As "It is a cover or other page from a book, DVD, newspaper, magazine, or other such source" you would select this option and come to this page where you can upload it in the normal way. If you need more help with this just ask. ·Add§hore· ^Talk/_Cont 08:53, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

How do i do it? (NPOV issue)

I'm really struggling to get information out there without breaking some rule or another so if anyone can offer assistance as to how i do this i'd appreciate it.

Right, essentially i am part of an online international foundation dedicated to spreading information about "ratsnakes". As a result our website holds a wealth of information and photos of just about every "ratsnake" species out there.

What i'd like to do is get a copy (in some form) of an information sheet onto each page and then link in the relevant section of our photo gallery so viewers have access to photos of the species aswell as basic info available to them. An example of the info sheet and photo gallery can be found here on this wiki stub:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaphe_carinata

I tried to do this last year but was met with opposition from someone unwilling to listen to my arguement on the issue. In fairness i did lose my temper so that wont have helped.

The reasoning i was given was that because we charge membership for extra priveledges (ie monthly articles etc) then it wasn't allowed. My arguement was that the information we are providing on here is free for everyone so it made no difference to us in terms of "getting members via wikipedia" - The only people that pay to join are those that have a real passion and not just a passing interest.

So, is there a problem with the above linked example? If so, how can we fix it?

All i want to do is get the information out there so i am willing to listen, unfortunately i can't do anything about the gallery link as the photos are not owned by us. We have permission to link to them but not just post them up any where.

Dan - (Editor) The Ratsnake Foundation 20:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Dan, firstly, I should point out that what you are proposing is in potential violation of Wikipedia's conflict of interest and advertisement policies. Also, your username is in violation of Wikipedia's username policy, and as such you may be blocked from editing under this username, but you are welcome to create a new name or edit anonymously. However, if you wish to release your content into the public domain for use in Wikipedia articles, you can file a request using the Wikimedia OTRS system. If you get permission from the owners of the photographs (using the same system if you wish) then you could also upload a couple of selected photos to Wikipedia for use in articles, but adding mass links to your photo gallery is not advisable. I hope that helps you. haz (talk) 21:10, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, didn't i just get off on the best footing!! Yes, the COI policy was probably also mentioned before. The OTRS system wasn't though so i'll go look at that shortly. As a side note, bit annoying that my example has been altered so my link looks a bit daft now. Can i just confirm though that while mass links to the gallery are not "advisable" they aren't forbidden or am i just clutching at straws?

Would i be able to "copy and paste" our information sheets into the stubs as a lest resort? Dan - (Editor) The Ratsnake Foundation 21:37, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Hilton

Please fill in the subject box above, then replace this text with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. 24.31.170.48 (talk) 23:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC) How did the Hilton Hotels get started and how much is their stock?23:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

You might find what you are looking for in the article about Hilton Hotels. If you cannot find the answer there, click here to post your question at that article's talk page. If that does not solve your problem, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They will be glad to try and answer questions about anything in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 03:54, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

How to search for a newly uploaded article

Hi,

This is Ketan here. I wanted to know that I have created a new article on wikipedia about a company MSPL limited on Saturday. I wanted to know that what would be the procedure to get it pulished in the search engine so that all the people searching wikipedia can review and edit the article. As I tried to search after two days but I found that the article cannot be searched until we put the username like User:______*. Please do let me know if there is any other formalities to be done from our end.

Thanks & Regards,

59.98.176.10 (talk) 04:25, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Could you provide a link to the present location of the article? Someguy1221 (talk) 04:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Here is the link to the present location of the article. Please do let me know if you need more information. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mspleditor

Thanks, 59.98.176.10 (talk) 04:57, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

The article had to be moved into the correct title. Only accounts older than four days may do this, and IPs cannot either, so I've done this for you. I've also removed quite a bit of content that appeared to be advertising. Such material violates our neutral point of view policy, which maintains that articles about companies, for example, should report factual statements about the company, as referencable to reliable and independent sources; it is generally inappropriate to devote any appreciable space to the company's own opinion of itself, and especially inappropriate to present the company's opinion of itself as fact. I've also removed the omnipresent links to the company's website (this should only appear once in the infobox, and once in the external links). I've also marked it as needing footnotes, which it is completely lacking. In any event, it is now viewable to anyone who types MSPL into the search bar. Someguy1221 (talk) 05:48, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for all your help. Also, please do let me know if I can add some more data about the company which is not an advertising data and can I upload the company logo and other images in between the text. Looking forward to your help.

Thanks & Warm Regards, 59.98.176.10 (talk) 06:10, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

It is permissible to upload a low-resolution version of the company logo, and this should be placed in the article's infobox (there is an element called company_logo). You may also upload other images, but only images that are freely licensed (i.e. anyone can use it for any purpose without paying the copyright owner), so you can generally only use photos that you have personally taken, or photos owned by the company, lets say, with notification of release of copyright emailed to Wikipedia via OTRS. So if you want to put photos in, it's easiest to only put your own in (our arcane practices are necessary to comply with US copyright law). As for more information, anything that is mentioned in a reliable source can potentially be placed in the article. The best sources for MSPL are probably going to be any newspaper or industry magazine articles that discuss the company or its activities. There should also be references provided for the statements on MSPL's revenue and output; while a source outside the company would be ideal, you could also use a public report the company filed with the state (some equivalent of form 10-K in the United States), if such a report exists. For future reference, I have placed the article on my watchlist, so I will see any comment you post to Talk:MSPL. If you place new content or references in the article, I will see your changes and review them. When I have time (been very busy lately), I plan to read the references and see what else can be added, or citations made. I'll also do this for any new references you add to the article. Someguy1221 (talk) 06:35, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the response. Also, I just got confused as the text at the top of the page of MSPL says that: This article or section includes a list of references or external links, but its sources remain unclear because it lacks in-text citations. I am not able to get the point out here. Does it mean that we have not given the reference link in order to confirm that the data given out here is valid or not. Also, please do let me know how and where to put these citations in the article.

Mspleditor (talk) 09:17, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

That notice means that although there are references, since they all appear in a list at the end it's hard for a reader to tell which fact in the article appears in which reference. The solution to this is inline citations (see here and here), which produce little footnote marks in the body of the text to show which reference has been used. As for where to put them, they're most helpful after significant or controversial facts, or say at the end of a paragraph to indicate that that section is from a new source. If you want to get a look at footnotes 'in action' why not look over a few featured articles, since those are pages which have been rated as the best on Wikipedia. Happy editing! Olaf Davis | Talk 22:25, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Davis for your feedback. But in the article of MSPL could you please guide me as which data can be put in citation and which data can be put in references. However, I am trying to screen the data at my end but I'll really appreciate your help to solve the citation problem. Look forward to your feedback and help.

Thanks & Regards,

Ketan Vaidya

203.187.229.181 (talk) 04:22, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

reporting a mistake

Hi, I just wanted to report you a mistake I've found in a page, I'm a newbie and actually don't know if I'm able to change it. The page is: [2] in the first line there's a link to Pepper Martin, but Eric Martin's father was not that famous baseball player, he was Frederick "Pepper" Martin, a U.S. officer, I've found it here: [3] and here [4] (english version at the bottom, question "your memories of Italy"). Thank you for your help! Dewi75 (talk) 19:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi there! To change an article, all you have to do is edit the page by clicking the "edit this page" tab on the top of the article, and press "save page" when you're done with your fixes. Good luck! Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 19:40, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

adding picture to article

I have uploaded a jpeg photo (my own) and I want to insert it into an article on Fossil Falls. I have no idea how to do that. please advise. Thank-you Honorsgeology (talk) 21:46, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Uploading images#Adding images to articles. Someguy1221 (talk) 22:06, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Publishing an article from User Page

I created my article on Seventh-day Adventist Kinship Internation on my user page about a month ago, then have been out of town. Now I want to publish it. How can I do this without losing all my formatting? Carrol Grady (talk) 21:57, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Carol, simply click edit this page, and copy all the text including all formating and then paste it into the page. Do you know how to create pages? Please let me know. Adam (Manors) 22:23, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, John. No, I can't seem to find specific information on creating pages. Carrol Grady (talk) 23:00, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Excuse me Carrol, but I'm reading your userpage right now, and it's not clear to me that this organization meets the notability requirement. The easiest way to demonstrate this is to note reliable sources that have covered the movement, but had no association with the movement itself, such as independent newspapers or magazines. If notability is not demonstrated, the article is liable to be deleted. Someguy1221 (talk) 22:52, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

This is an organization similar to other gay-supportive religious organizations, such as Dignity USA or Affirmation, which have articles on Wikipedia. Carrol Grady (talk) 23:00, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

That's actually a fairly common argument in deletion discussions, and one that is uniformly dismissed by administrators, unfortunately. It is considered that the existence of articles that do not conform to standards makes evident only that the standards are not being universally enforced, and not that the standards should not be enforced. So that actually doesn't protect the article at all from possible deletion. Someguy1221 (talk) 23:15, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict) That's generally not considered a decent argument to include the article - see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Personally, I think it would be good to get a little feedback on your article before moving it off your user page, which you can do at Wikipedia:Requests for feedback. Once you're fairly sure the article will meet notability standards, the easiest way to get it into main space is to move it with the tab up the top that says "move". This will preserve the exact format of the page as it is now. Once you do that, though, your user page will become a redirect which you will need to undo by following the instructions on the help page under "Changing a redirect". Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:18, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Would a website that lists denominational gay support groups be acceptable for notability requirements? Carrol Grady (talk) 23:35, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Not really; such sources generally fail the "non-trivial" requirement of a notability-establishing source (i.e. it has to be more than just an entry in a list or a passing mention, the source should actually discuss the organization, and the source should meet Wikipedia's definition of reliability). Someguy1221 (talk) 23:41, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

The website, www.religioustolerance.org, discusses the Seventh-day Adventist Church and has a section on homosexuality that talks about SDA Kinship. Would that work? Carrol Grady (talk) 00:56, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, my searches on the subject of your article results in [5] and [6]. The latter is news. Notice the lack of sources. As for the former, there doesn't seem to be a single noteworthy mention of this organization beyond the scope of run-of-the-mill websites, directories or primary sources. In other words, in a deletion discussion it would most likely fail our general notability guidelines regarding coverage. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 03:04, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Carol, it is often pointed out that Wikipedia is not the only Wiki website in existence, and many others have completely different rules which accept articles that would not be appropriate for Wikipedia. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 23:02, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, All. I'm working on finding reliable independent references now. I didn't realize self-references weren't acceptable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carrol Grady (talk • contribs) 23:22, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, they're useful in some cases (see WP:PSTS), but not for determining notability. I think the easiest way to demonstrate that is to tell you that I am, in fact, a world-famous movie actor, and in my spare time I work on a cure for cancer. I could probably even write something about that, and get it published on Lulu. Sadly, you can see why such a self-published reference is not particularly useful for getting me a Wikipedia article. I've even been mentioned in the newspaper at least twice - once when I got good marks for the Higher School Certificate, and once when I got my Honours degree. On both occasions, though, my name was listed with thousands of others, so you can see why even in a reliable source, a "non-trivial" mention is required to establish notability. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 02:23, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I have now finished writing this article and hope it is ready to move to mainspace. There are a good number (I think) of independent references to help it meet notability requirements. I have listed it on the "Request Feedback" page, but there seems to be a big backlog there. Is anyone here willing to take a look at it and see if it meets muster for posting? Thanks. Carrol Grady (talk) 19:09, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Notability questions?

Please fill in the subject box above, then replace this text with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. RosettaLady (talk) 08:35, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Afer readingl the guidelines, it is my understanding people must be notable to be in Wikipedia???

But perusing randomly through the site, I notice all kinds of people who seem less than notable.....porno actors (e.g. Christy Canyon, etc) who could not be known to any large mainstream segment of the public..... or musicans (eg. Marina V etc) who are obscure unsigned artists. It seems these kinds of listings also violate NPOV guidelines since the listings seem designed by the subjects and agents for promotional purposes?

It seems the notability guideline is very arbitrary and inconsistent, isn't it? Can you clarify the policy and explain some of these aberrations? Why are certain individuals branded with Wikipedia guideline breaches while others are immune from any notability requirements?

Hi RosettaLady. While you're correct that notability is required, being 'known to a large mainstream segment of the public' is not. Many subjects deemed worthy of inclusion are of interest only in very narrow areas. For example, I doubt many of the mainstream public care very much about the amino acid Phenylalanine but it's notable within biochemistry.

To address the example of Christy Canyon which you brought up: the specific policy page most relevant is WP:PORNBIO, which states that pornographic actors are worthy of inclusion if they've won notable awards for their work. Since Christy has, she's deemed notable - simply being in porn films is not what qualifies her.

You say that these listings are designed by the subjects and their agents. Although that does sometimes happen, such pages are usually deleted when found or overhauled to assume a more neutral tone. The vast majority of biographical pages on Wikipedia are written by unconnected editors who happen to have an interest in the subject or their work.

Finally, I don't deny that there are many unencyclopedic articles on Wikipedia, many of them biographical. This is inevitable given how the project works: people can't check every article immediately and poor ones do slip through. However, the fact that policy will never be perfectly policed does not mean the policy itself is insufficient. (As an analogy, consider the argument that since there are many unpunished criminals in the world, the criminal justice system must be arbitrary and inconsistent).

I hope that helps answer your questions. Please let me know if not, or if you have more. Olaf Davis | Talk 09:08, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I understand the concept of what you say but I still find the guideline extremely inconsistent. I mean, if awards are the determination of notability, shouldn't those awards be coming from well known entities (e.g. Nobel, MacArthur, Fields Medal, etc), comprised of genuine disinterested third parties, where a huge public holds interest? After all, porno awards are created by a single peripheral agency whose honors go unreported in MOST media....or in the case of unsigned music artists, the awards are often of a niche variety, the kind that can be purchased for a fee or provided through friends, bed-mates, etc. They are more in the vein of popularity awards than awards recognizing genuine achievements. I find it strange to discover certain people missing from Wikipedia while it includes many unknowns who are using it for PR purposes only and who so obivously violate your NPOV guidelines.

Notability is not synonymous with popularity. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 22:25, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

The general notability guideline, on which all the others are based, is located at WP:N. Essentially, we want Wikipedia to have articles on as many topics as is physically possible, while maintaining the core policy of verifiability, and the notability guidelines are an interpretation of that policy. If there are people who are somehow "more notable" that don't have articles yet, that's just a function of the fact that all Wikipedia content is user-generated; if no user has been interested in that person's field, then the article hasn't been created. If you feel that there should be an article, then the standard response is {{sofixit}}. (And if you find an article that doesn't meet the notability guidelines, then you're well within your rights to put it through the deletion process.) Also, please remember to sign your posts on this page with four tildes (~~~~) to make it easier to follow the discussion. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 01:40, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Wisdom and ConMan are correct. If there's a particular person you have in mind who's obviously violating the conflict of interest and NPOV policies, or a particular award being used to confer notability which you think is purchasable or otherwise a bad indicator, by all means be bold and propose them for deletion or cleanup (be prepared to provide justification, too). If you think the problem is so endemic (and I personally don't, but you may) that only a change in policy will do you can also propose that. However, I'd recommend spending a more time working on Wikipedia before doing anything too drastic: you might come to change your mind about the policy, and if not the experience will allow you to argue against it all the better. Finally, bear in mind that if we restrict notability to people like Fields medalists or those with a huge public interest, we'll be excluding many thousands of articles even a traditional paper encyclopedia wouldn't hesitate to include. Olaf Davis | Talk 07:56, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I am now blocked from uploading files. Please help

Please help. Am blocked from uploading files.

Thanks,

pkapreli Pkapreli (talk) 01:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Accounts must be autoconfirmed (at least 4 days old) to upload files. A new rule has just been implemented: Accounts must also have at least 10 edits to be autoconfirmed. I guess already autoconfirmed accounts with less than 10 edits lost their status. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:23, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

You have uploaded five files, all now deleted. Presumably the creation of the image description page counts as an edit, but I'm not sure if deleted contributions count for auto-confirmation. I don't see any attempt to refer to these PDFs in articles, which would also have counted as edits, even if they were reverted. Before uploading new files, please check that you know how to record their copyright status correctly, and think about how they will be used in articles. Cheers, Bovlb (talk) 19:38, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Uploading

I'm trying to make my own page, but I have no clue anymore, first I had to wait before I was an automatic user or something, I waited longer than that and I still can not upload.. I think i'm doing something wrong. I can just click on upload in my toolbox and then make an entire new page? Please help Tascq (talk) 11:02, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I see you have created Tascq since your post. Upload restrictions for new users are only for uploading files (typically images), not for creating pages. Please see Wikipedia:FAQ/Business. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:19, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

External Links

I just joined Wikimedia and I have been trying to post on the External Links a newly formed blog for Leisha Hailey. But I have been having the hardest time going through the proper channels to get my blog displayed on this page under "External Links"--Can someone please take me step by step through the process.. Leisha12 (talk) 19:08, 21 May 2008 (UTC)Leisha12

"Per our guidelines for external links, blogs are to be discouraged in this section. Usually the only exception is if it's written by a professional in their field and is secondary to the topic at hand, and even then it should be used with caution. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 19:38, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Blog External Links

I saw under a Rose Rollins Wikimedia page that she had a blog spot on her page, which is what prompted me to inquire about a blog spot on Leishas page. Is there anyway possible to get her blog featured. What would be the exceptions? Is there anyone we can contact to try to get displayed? --Leisha12 (talk) 19:49, 21 May 2008 (UTC)Leisha12

Rose Rollins doesn't have that anymore; generally, fan pages aren't considered to be acceptable under the external links guidelines. Tony Fox (arf!) 20:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Response also posted at Wikipedia:Help desk#External Links for blogs. haz (talk) 20:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Automatic Archiving: "Greenhouse Effect"

I have been following the "Greenhouse Effect" talk and I find that a large part of it has now been archived in a way I think is inappropriate, material contributed in 2008 has already been taken away. I do not know if this archiving can be reversed as I am not very experienced, can you help please? Damorbel (talk) 11:26, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Busy talk pages should be archived more often than others to keep a reasonable size. In [7] you wrote: "I might accept it if the archives were directly accessible." What do you mean by "directly accessible"? The box at top of Talk:Greenhouse effect has archive links on the text "Archives: 1, 2". The archiving was done in [8]. Do you think something is missing from the archive? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:18, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh silly me! I thought I might find the archives for "Greenhouse Effect" in a similar place to those here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ivor_Catt Having checked the GHE archives, I still find them unsatisfactory, archive 1 has three items from 2008 and archive 2 has about 17, the last on 29 April, not at all conducive to discussion. This is a shambles and it should be revised. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Damorbel (talk • contribs) 12:50, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

The bot is configured to archive all threads that have had no new comments in two weeks. Since the page is not too busy, we could up this to four. However, the talk page is for ongoing discussion with the aim of improving the page. It's not there to document old discussions forever. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 13:27, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but two weeks is wildly oppressive. I do not see that Stephen Schultz is a contributor or editor to Greenhouse EfFect but perhaps like me you are intending to do so, good! Nevertheless all interested parties have surely got a right of direct access to discussion on this subject, a subject which is being ratcheted up the political rather than the scientific scale. Your proposal of upping the archive limit to 4 weeks would only re-include one item in the direct Talk. Currently there are items from 2006. The original archive proposal was made by someone whose first contribution seems to have been made 3 weeks ago, I am not sure his intentions are informed by a deep experience. I suggest archiving discussion items closed before 2007. At present I am not experienced enough to do this but after 4 weeks? Don't they call that vandalism in Wikipedia?--Damorbel (talk) 14:12, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Greenhouse effect is currently 34 kb. That seems reasonable to me and the archived pages are only one click away. Archiving inactive discussions to reduce talk page size is common and certainly not called vandalism. Some Internet connections and browsers have problems with long pages. Wikipedia:Article size has something about article size but doesn't mention talk pages. You can suggest a change at Talk:Greenhouse effect#Automatic archiving but please don't imply that people are vandals or may have bad intentions just because they prefer another archive age (see Wikipedia:Assume good faith). The time is easy to change in "algo = old(14d)" at top of the page. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:58, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

It is easy to undo any archiving, and it's perfectly fine to continue an old discussion if you have something new to add that would benefit the article. There were discussions no one had commented on since 2003. Maybe two weeks was unnecessarily short? I don't mind setting a longer delay (a month, two months, etc). Again, you are free to continue any discussion that's in the archives and you can move it back if you want (or I'm sure someone else will be happy to help you do it if you don't know how). Regards.
— Apis (talk) 15:33, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Password not accepted; how to make one upload listing

I registered several days ago and received an email confirmation, yet when I attempt to log in I continually get "password not accepted" I initially found out my nickname was not accepted and I changed it to one that was. Once you tell me how to get around this glitch, I need to know how to upload a listing for a magazine to the magazines section. It is not currently listed and is similar to two others that are; it is written exactly the same way as the other two listings. 216.99.209.77 (talk) 18:53, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Is Help:Logging in of help? What is your username? Being similar to existing articles isn't necessarily good. See Wikipedia:Other stuff exists. And some magazines are less notable than others. See Wikipedia:Your first article before creating an article. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:21, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

If it's a web magazine like Audiophile Audition then see Wikipedia:Notability (web), and if you are associated with it then see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and Wikipedia:FAQ/Business. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:33, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

"Mike Cejka" entry

This referenced article has been flagged as an autobiography. What is the process for elimination of the autobiography flag? Thanks in advance for your assistance. Mcejka (talk) 20:28, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

You can remove the autobiography tag by deleting the text {{autobiography}} which appears at the top of the article. It might be wise to address the issue to which the tag refers before doing so! Nk.sheridan   Talk 20:54, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

paul borgman

I wish to edit the entry on me, Paul Borgman. I have a new book from Oxford University Press, for example. And some of the wording could be improved and slightly expanded for clarification.

Please instruct

Paul Borgman

Hi Paul. It's generally not recommended that you edit your own biography, due to the conflict of interest involved. However, you are welcome to make suggestions on the article's talk page, or you could try contacting the Biographies WikiProject or leave a message on the Noticeboard for issues with biographies of living persons. This helps to ensure that your article is updated but kept within Wikipedia policies such as verifiability and neutral point of view. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:37, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

hide a segment of an article from younger viewers

My daughter, nine years old, wants to reasearch Jane Addams. I'd prefer to omit the section on her love life. It's just not relevant for my kid yet. Can I delete just what we look at without changing the article in database?Devepedia (talk) 04:58, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

No, there is no ability to do that, although you could click the "edit this page" tab at the top of that article, remove the section, and then click "preview" (DON'T CLICK SAVE PAGE). Upon clicking preview, you can then print the article, if that meets your fancy. Someguy1221 (talk) 05:44, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Someguy is correct. However in case it comes up, you can prevent certain images from displaying: see Wikipedia:Options to not see an image Olaf Davis | Talk 08:18, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not censored for minors. If you wish to not allow your child to see a section of text, I suggest that you copy the page to a word processing document and edit it locally to remove any content you do not wish your child to see. Hope that helps. haz (talk) 08:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Someguy's idea is much better than Haza's. Haza's was a pretty pointless post. Or you could - you know - stop being so oppressive and let her read what she wants. Machete97 (talk) 20:30, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

That wasn't a nice thing to say ("pretty useless post"). I have frequently copied text from the web to word processing documents for editing and printing. Don't knock it if you haven't tried it. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 04:27, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I have. I used to do that all the time, but Someguy's idea means she could look at it on screen in a browser window, and if printed direct from the preview, it would look more like a printout of the original article.Machete97 (talk) 08:56, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Etiquette for a major change

There is an article I'd like to completely rewrite. It's not very active as far as talking or editing users go--may I just post a notification on the talk page? And if yes, then how long should I leave it up before I proceed? I plan to incorporate some of the previously-posted info, but would like to rework it, then add major additions. An answer here or a link to a discussion would be appreciated. Grumpy otter (talk) 16:21, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello Grumpy otter. (Nice name!) I would recommend you be WP:BOLD and make a start on your rewrite. The fact that you've come here and asked about the etiquette first is a pretty good indicator that you have the right attitude. Yes, if your changes are likely to be major it is considered courteous to open a discussion on the article's talk page, setting out your plans for the article and inviting discussion and contributions from other interested parties, but there's no set period of notice you are required to observe before embarking on changes thereafter. With any luck, you'll arouse interest in previous contributors who may wish to offer help or suggestions. If they have the article on their watchlists they'll see when you start making changes and show up to have a look. If nobody comes along, don't be discouraged - just make your changes and perhaps summarise what you've done from time to time on the talk page as an update to your original posting, so other users can follow your train of thought. If you need any help, there are some very useful links at WP:Article development. Have fun! --Karenjc 17:24, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the info! The article development link is especially appreciated! Grumpy otter (talk) 17:36, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Paul Tansley

Paul Tansley (21 July 1959) is a radio broadcaster for Sheffield Live 93.2fm which transmits in The Sheffield area and on line at www.sheffieldlive.org every Friday. His show generally concertrates on dance and is unique in radio because the track lists are voted in by the listeners unknown on any other station. The highest voted tracks are selected into the Sheffield Live dance top 10.

Peronal Life.

Paul is married to Gillian since 15 Decemeber 1979 and has 5 Children, Chantelle, Dominic, Paul, Xavier and Lucien. Eldest being 27 and youngest 8.

Latest

Paul is currently working on the Rock n Roll years a new radio show which concerntrates on music from 1954 to 1963 and will be broadcast this summer on Sheffield Live. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.38.190.164 (talk) 08:42, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Are you trying to create an article? You can do this here. After you create an account. WikiZorro^sign 10:51, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Also, before you do so, be sure that your subject meets Wikipedia's notability standards, otherwise it's highly possible that the article will be deleted. -- Natalya 13:35, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

My Article Was deleted As Soon As I Tried To Submit It

I took over an hour to include a new article and as soon as I hit the button for submitting, it told me that i was not authorized and I was not able to retrieve any of my info. That was alot of my personal info< that i really need to create stories for the foundation. Tlapr (talk) 20:24, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Your article wasn't deleted, as articles can only be deleted once they have been created, which requires you to submit the page. What has probably happened is that your account login has timed out, due to the length of time which it took to write the article; this would either manifest as a "session error" or, as seems likely in your case, you were seen as an anonymous user (logged-out or anonymous contributors are unable to create pages). I don't think there's a way of retrieving the article draft if you've already closed the browser window. If you still have the original window open, then you could try using your browser's "back" button and see if you can retrieve it. haz (talk) 22:14, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

What is internet-capable devices

219.93.152.11 (talk) 05:42, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Your question lacks context. An internet capable device very broadly is just what the words mean: a device that is capable of using the Internet in some manner. If you have a more spoecific question on this topic please clarify you question but not here, please ask it at the miscellaneous or computer sections of the reference desk. This page is for questions about using Wikipedia.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 10:38, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Biography boxes and Song boxes

I know this seems silly, but can't figure out where to find the little boxes we use for musicians' information at the top right of their pages.. Likewise, I don't know where to go to find an "info box" just to create a page for a song. Would someone please help me? Thank you! --leahtwosaints (talk) 13:36, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

I believe the musician information box is Template:Infobox Musical artist. Most of those boxes are templates. If you want to find out the specific name of one of the templates, if you click to edit the page, you can find the name of it there. (You may already know some of this), but templates are implemented by putting the name of the template, and any required information, between curly brackets: {{ }}. Different templates require different inputted information, which you can usually find out about on the template page. -- Natalya 14:24, 25 May 2008 (UTC)