Talk:Newburgh-Beacon Bridge

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Thanks to User user:Engleman for beefing up the map/topo part... I got the bright idea to put in a maps.google.com link and he took it a lot farther! This text was removed in the refactor/addition... I think the comment is valid, but I guess probably a lot more valid on the talk page than in the body where I had it!. (I find it interesting how different areas have different detail levels and how Google chooses which ones have which) So thanks for that!

  • Maps.google.com satellite view of bridges. The cantilever truss sections are pretty clearly visible but (as of this writing) the east side image is not so good, it is difficult to make out the toll plaza to the east unless you zoom out.

++Lar 21:40, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes it is good commentary, the only trouble with it is that it seems to apply only to Google Maps, but not the other maps that the template I used links to. (I didn't acutally come up with those on my own; I'm far too lazy for that. All I had to do was put the coordinates that you already figured out into the template.) --Chris 03:18, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
There is a template for that? I did not know that! I see it now... I'll have to remember to use that more often, thanks!!! As for the Google qualitylack, maybe they're paying less than MS for the data? hehe ++Lar 03:27, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
I just tweaked it a bit. I now have it using "hoodscale" instead of "streetscale" which seems to make it cover the entire bridge. I also changed to coordinates to be closer to the center of the bridge. Also of note is the TopoZone map. It must be very old, because the west side shows no bridge at all, and the east side shows the south bridge as under construction, which confirms that I was wrong about which came first. --Chris 03:35, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
I was scoping out that TopoZone too and you can see that there is no freeway there on the west side either, although unf. the Newburgh Beacon ferry line isn't shown on there that I could see. The east side did carry the I-84 shield. Good tweaks... Does the template allow specification of scale as a parameter or are there now multiple ones with different scales in their names? Nice work. ++Lar 09:13, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
Have a look at Template talk:Geolinks-US-streetscale#Geolinks templates. I don't think there is a numerical scale parameter, because each map/satelite site has a different numerical scale system. I think the one I used here is for neighborhoods, but it worked out well here, because it generally shows the whole bridge without too much else. --Chris 22:03, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] change of Hudson template

Would anyone mind if I removed {{NYC Hudson River crossings}}? --Chris 19:35, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

I think there is value in having the categorised list (by geography) the way it is now, but am not sure about how best to handle having a lot of templates there at the bottom, it's cluttered (prolly why you were thinking to lose it?)... so ambivalence! Are you asking in a lot of places? I think maybe you and I are the only ones that talk here much... I was just thinking about the new template you did, I think maybe if we hand code the three bridges that are just upstream and just downstream on the Hudson, and the northernmost bridge on the Harlem, we can get them to "Y" so that when you get to them you decide which way to go... I'll post something that shows what I am talking about to GW and Bear Mountain and Henry Hudson Bridge... ++Lar 20:19, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
I agree that the bottom is too clutered. I think that {{Hudson River crossing}} should be the one removed. Cacophony 01:49, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
Well, {{Hudson River crossing}} can be (and has been) extended north of where {{NYC Hudson River crossings}} goes and it gives you traversal ability that the other one does not. So I'm not sure I agree but of course maybe traversal is just a gimmick in some people's eyes? ++Lar 14:09, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:NYC Hudson River crossings

Template:NYC Hudson River crossings has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:NYC Hudson River crossings. Thank you. --Chris 16:39, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

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